Mini 1515: Touhou Imperishable Night (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

Aside from their softclaim and how they've been handling it, the overall vibe from their posting is definitely the town-them I'm used to seeing

what's the difference between town-them and scum-them?

because morph this game has felt off to me and i'm not really sure why so many people are town-reading them when nothing about their play has struck me as particularly town. they've been all over the place and kind of a mess, and i'm not seeing the sort of confident stances i'm used to seeing from the ffery head. it really feels like they've just been going with the flow of things for most of the game and trying not to draw much attention to themselves.

Plus, they've invoked a holy-Mastin tell of "I'm not used to you not townreading me" similar to you in Xenogears

if that's a holy tell for you, why was i never anywhere near your tier-1 town reads in xenogears?

he has nothing else to say besides a fake fakehammer, which doesn't even do anything?

is there something in particular you wanted me to comment on? i was fine with BRO being at L-1 and not much had happened that i felt was worth mentioning.

[pieguyn]

is there something in particular you wanted me to comment on? i was fine with BRO being at L-1 and not much had happened that i felt was worth mentioning.

nothing specific, but can you explain why you chose that way to put him at L-1 plz? cause I srsly don't get of all the ways to put him at L-1 why you'd do a fake fakehammer 0.0 no matter how much I think about it I can't make any sense out of it

[waynegg]

I dunno mastin, arcangel slot is still a scumread of ours as well. Muffin kind of put a bandaid on it, but none of the recent events have helped, and those damn bandaids always fall off as soon as you get used to them.

Use Curad cloth bandages then.

[zMuffinMan]

nothing specific, but can you explain why you chose that way to put him at L-1 plz?

wat

[zMuffinMan]

you are aware i've been voting BRO for a while now, right?

[pieguyn]

oh nvm. I thought Varsoon's vote was L-2 @_@

[ArcAngel9]

hang on children...i didn't had a chance to catch up...
but i will contribute something in few hours....

Mastin, i am not scum. now stop pushing for my lynch

Morph the cat - which heads involved here???

Bro - I am town. there is no need to push for my lynch today. I am looking at the wagons right now. I ll make my decision soon.

[morph the cat]

Morph the cat - which heads involved here???

We're both active today. Cabd is more interested in lynching you right now than I am, as you might be able to discern from post 1640

[morph the cat]

Yep we're Cabd, Orcinus, Buldermar, and Ffery. Ffery is totally the one wearing the pants right now though!

[ArcAngel9]

wow, that's one hell of the hydra then..
ffery - You know me quite well and how i play. I am town. so lets talk about your opinion and who else you all think is scum apart from me?

[morph the cat]

You're really easy to troll. Lovely.

(it's just cabd and ffery, for the record)

[waynegg]

The towniest name in there is the conf-town.

Wait...

How the fuck does that support your point?

Because it accentuates the negative. There's only one player. ONE. DAMN. PLAYER. On that wagon. That looks good. All the rest. The entirety of them. Look bad.

I'm going to be a bit lazy here and question off one post instead of separating them...

BRO, how the hell are any of (Ghostly Penguin, Mac, BROseidon, pieguyn)

confirmed

anything? Last I checked there's no announced IC and none of the players listed have flipped.

Consider this intent.

Mastin, which of that list is "the ONE"?

Gonna read things in a bit, but I did a little thinking on things overnight.

Frankly, I don't think BRO is anything other than scum. I really, really don't. Everyone else, I can see as being town, but dammit, I don't care how TunnelVisiony this sounds, I can't see him as being town. Now that said...who else is there?

I thought about GP.

I'm not sure on it.

But I do think Ghostlin's town.

I also think TNE's town. I'm mainly looking at {thezmon221, Psychlone, Mac} as containing the other two scum, 'cause I really, REALLY think that Varsoon's town (his claim is not as implausible as you may think it to be), pie's basically conftown, I still think that wayne's town, moroph's also town, and while my townread on zMuff continues to waver, he's still overall town to me. TNE's just not feeling like scum to me. Which leaves those four, for three scum slots, and one of them looking like BROseidon.

I know.

This doesn't feel right. A lot of Mac's posting looks like town. (Even though a lot more looks like scum.)

There's not particularly a lot wrong about thezmon's posting, either, also looking minorly town. (Even though it being scum is not impossible.) Hell, even Psychlone's not too terribly off. Of my townreads, GP's the weakest. But I can't shake this being their town selves right now.

Basically, reworded... (strongest to weakest)
{

Pie

, Varsoon, morph, wayne} are megatown.
{zMuff, TNE} are both quite town.

GP's sorta-town.

{BRO, thez, Psychlone, Mac} (Psychlone and Mac are interchangeable) all have things which could make them town, but are basically less town than the remainder.

I wish I could flip the switch, right here and now. It sounds like I've got things narrowed down via POE, right? The problem is in my utter lack of confidence in these. Because while I believe them, while this is basically the only thing that I can see...I just don't think it feels right. Like one of my major townreads has to be wrong. Despite how none of them feel wrong. Pie, Varsoon, and morph all in particular feel town, and hell, I'm basically at the point where off of my gut I'd be calling TNE more town than zMuff. All of those are strong. I don't think I'm going to waver on any of them. But that still leaves too much. I don't think nor want wayne to be scum, but no matter how much I try, I can't push myself to see him as that 95% town. No matter how much I try, I keep on thinking that I might have been wrong about zMuffin, despite everything logically saying he's town. And that's ridiculously bad so close to deadline, but it's all I've got.

And could you be a little more noncommittal on Mac?

[ArcAngel9]

You're really easy to troll. Lovely.

(it's just cabd and ffery, for the record)

lol. not true. I am just believer!!

what do you think of BRO?

And BRO, So which town games you referring that i didnt do anything as town? (Get me proofs)
let's just say even i dont do any shit as town.. so your recommendation is lynch that player not because they are scum but because they didn't hardly been useful??

You realize that i replaced into a 60 page day 1 mini theme game?
How many mini games actually gets 60 pages on day 1? so be considerable.. I am bit horrified to catch up. Even if i try reading game.. towards the end i will forget what my initial reads were...

[morph the cat]

wow, that's one hell of the hydra then..
ffery - You know me quite well and how i play. I am town. so lets talk about your opinion and who else you all think is scum apart from me?

I do think I'll be able to read you with more interaction. I doubt I'll have a strong read by the end of the game day.

Cabd and I are working on a probably final-for-the-day reads list right now.

You are scum by PoE, in part, plus some really off-feeling play by thezmon, somewhat (but not entirely) mitigated by his reaction to pieguyn's dayvig gambit.

BRO was at L-1 this morning, and I unvoted him because Cabd was less sure about that read than I am. We plan to put the vote back pretty soon.

TNE is at null, but by PoE either he or one of the players we're townreading also must be scum.

[BROseidon]

And BRO, So which town games you referring that i didnt do anything as town? (Get me proofs)

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.

Death's Diner.

[pieguyn]

@morph:

do you think TNE might have been trying to bus BRO?

[BROseidon]

BRO, how the hell are any of (Ghostly Penguin, Mac, BROseidon, pieguyn) confirmed anything? Last I checked there's no announced IC and none of the players listed have flipped.

Do you think scum would have an executioner in a 13p game?

[waynegg]

AA ~ take notes while you read. Copy/paste onto a word file or the like is neither hard nor time consuming.

[pieguyn]

BRO what the hell. I'm a dayvig not executioner. where the hell'd you get the idea that I'm executioner? o-o

[BROseidon]

let's just say even i dont do any shit as town.. so your recommendation is lynch that player not because they are scum but because they didn't hardly been useful??

I should read things fully before responding:

What I'm saying is that your slot was widely scumread before it lurked its way into replacement, and you're not going to provide much content to read it off of unless you start playing completely differently than in the games that I've had with you.

I also remember that we've had Rach's u-pick Narnia together where you were so not-reading the game that you used your 1-shot cop on the claimed miller.

pedit: I'M SAYING THAT YOU BEING AN EXECUTIONER (scum day-vig, effectively) WOULD BE RIDICULOUS IN A 13P GAME HOLY SHIT.

[ArcAngel9]

Two things....

I can't explain Thez's play.. To be honest.. He reads as scum every game he plays.. its just his reputation. Trust me on this!!!
Why should you believe me? - You will becuz i am town and when i am town.. i will sort things out.. that's how i am.

back to the discussion..

the deadline is near.. I know i have to make a decision today but i want to interact bit more with BRO, his push on me is little odd but i can do a quick ISO and make a decision about him

And about TNE, I am clueless... so i will have to see what's his deal. TNE derps a bit so i am not surprised about his wagon.

[waynegg]

BRO, how the hell are any of (Ghostly Penguin, Mac, BROseidon, pieguyn) confirmed anything? Last I checked there's no announced IC and none of the players listed have flipped.

Do you think scum would have an executioner in a 13p game?

That's not an answer. Try one of those instead. Pie hasn't killed anyone so still not confirmed.

Somebody throw a vote on BRO so my intent has teeth please.

[BROseidon]

I can't explain Thez's play.. To be honest.. He reads as scum every game he plays.. its just his reputation. Trust me on this!!!
Why should you believe me? - You will becuz i am town and when i am town.. i will sort things out.. that's how i am.

The only game I had with thez I hard-townread him before he got force-replaced (sort of, I was kind of not playing the game for all of day 1, but read the slot as town when I was catching up)

And I have no reason to believe that you're town given that you replaced into a slot that I'm scumreading and haven't taken the effort to turn around the read.

[pieguyn]

o. executioner != dayvig though. afaik executioner is just a role that can immediately lynch someone with half the required votes, which isn't the same as dayvig 0.0

also, 200 posts on D1. I'm damn proud of myself o/

[pieguyn]

WAYNE WHAT THE HELL
I FUCKING SHOT SSK
DON'T YOU FUCKING MISREP ME