A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Garruk Relentless]

Titus, you keep saying I'm scummy(but rather cleared by night action), but what exactly lead you to this conclusion? And please have more than an offhand comment from page 17 or whatever.

Otherwise, if anyone wants our gold tonight, tell me now, otherwise you leave us to our own machinations on who to give it to.

Otherwise, I'm pretty ready to move to night & lay down the hammer(ie completely unmoved by claim) when you people give me the go-ahead.

[Garruk Relentless]

Achievement Unlocked--use the word otherwise too many times in a post.

[Cephrir]

I feel like motivators can do a lot of different things- do you just let someone act twice?

[Garruk Relentless]

Yeah, we pay someone off to work doubletime.

[ooba]

Otherwise, if anyone wants our gold tonight, tell me now, otherwise you leave us to our own machinations on who to give it to.

Please do not target me tonight. (in case I was one of the probables)

[Cephrir]

Otherwise, if anyone wants our gold tonight, tell me now, otherwise you leave us to our own machinations on who to give it to.

Please do not target me tonight. (in case I was one of the probables)

In that case, I don't think you would have anyway, but please don't target me.

[Titus]

Tierce, I disagree with you. What if for a moment one was a traitor? The correct scum move upon our relevation that it was not a 1 v 1 was to weasel like they did here. If they suddenly drop the bus (like you are suggesting), it looks like exactly what it likely it was, a bus. There is no "clean break" IMO. Either you think someone is scum, or you don't and you're persuaded based on evidence.

GR,

1) The timing of your push on me. It reads as a deliberate attempt to push a mislynch through. It was utter crap and you both should have known that.

2) Your actual voting pattern doesn't mesh with how you claim your vote would be used.

3) I don't see a coherent thought process but rather I see a player voting based on the shifting winds.

4) Your interactions as a whole, I have never gotten that, ah ha this is genuine style moment which I usually get from Natirasha when he's town.

5) Your post above looks like a veiled permission to hammer.


However, Tierce's analysis of your night actions does seem legitimate and trustworthy. If her analysis is accurate and she's not lying, that means you are town despite what I am seeing here.

[Tammy]

Don't target me please.

[PrideandJoy]

Garruk 1v1 me fagget

[Tierce]

Where are you again, Empire? What's your read on PrideandJoy?

[Tierce]

Also it's pretty obvious that the designated VT is a bad target, Garruk. >.>

[Garruk Relentless]

@Titus: Okay. Thanks.
@PnJ: K. 1v1 SF Mid no runes no crow?
@Tierce: Alfred's been worrying me as well. They pop in every once in a while to make some meta post then go back to lurking.

[Tammy]

Okay ooba - that game I was talking about is behind a password protected site, but here's the basic breakdown. (This was a players upick at another site, so the roles were tailored for people's playstyles

Scum team one was made up of three killers who performed the kills separately like here.
- One person had the ability to make himself bulletproof for one night.
- One had the ability to cause two lynches one day.
- One had the ability to make another person a suicide bomber and was a night one only godfather.
- As a group they could choose one person from their team immune to cross kills as long as more than one person lived.

Scum team two was made up of four people - Two killers who performed the kill together, and two traitors who flipped innocent upon death (doesn't apply here) and who died if the killers both died.
- One killer person had a one time governor
- One killer was a miller who had a one-shot heal
- Both traitors could heal one of their masters each night to protect them once from a crosskill and after night two one of them could commit suicide to be promoted to full killer when both original killers died.

So, some of that probably doesn't apply to here, but that's how crosskill protection was implemented in that game. It didn't work for protection from kills by a town, though I don't think there was a vig.
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[Tammy]

So, who are your scumreads and

why

?

It's day five. Everyone! Because it's day five and it's day five.

But the only people I really trust at the moment are Tierce and ooba and to lesser extent a couple others like Garruk and Cephrir. Everyone else is varying shades of scum.

[ooba]

Wow - Thanks Tammy. What were the total number of players?

[AGar]

I've read too much Bill Simmons lately...

The Shakey's Pizza Watch for D5 ... Ooba's vacillating reads ... PnJ's seemingly erratic posting to me ... people who still believe Titus is town ... Nautilus ... Benmage's sudden effort ... The apparent growings of an Alchemist wagon (did I miss a memo? I thought the coin thing was a fair bit towards TownAlch) ... Titus's posting in general ... Titus ... Yeah that's all I've got.

Stellar.

I know, ins't it?

Problem is until yesterday I had quadz pegged far on the town-side of things. So between him and SpyreX I've had two fairly confident town-reads be dead wrong. Plus the whole SD thing still makes my head hurt (Yes, the ninja thing very much bothers me to this point. Point for thought - quadz' cop claim semi-true and he awkardly 1v1'd an opposition scumbag to try and come to some sort of parity/get some association heat off of Chaos? The weird attempt-to-back down would then make some sense too,) and I'm not so easy to just go "Welp SD is town then," right now because of how much it bothers me. And then this Titus thing just ain't happening it seems. I've got "Zdenek read REALLY scummy to me." and "I blocked Titus N3 and there was no-kill N3." to go off of, and that's not buying the 9 other votes necessary.

So I probably really desperately need to re-read the past couple of days (D3-present is where my shit kinda falls apart) and compare them to where my head was at on D1-D2 and get myself squared away there. But the problem THERE is that I just don't have the time for that this week, so I'm kinda sheeping a few different townreads of varying shades, seeing what's compelling in thread to sway my vote and calling what I see in the moment for both the fact that it's things that look like bullshit and so I have something to work from when I can finally merge in the two halves of this game into one coherent non-clusterfuck, which will probably be sometime after Saturday.

So this is a really longwinded excuse as to why I'm doing nothing more than taking pot-shots at the moment and kinda just brainvomiting into the posting box.

[Tammy]

Oh - for the scum team that selected a member of their group to be immune to crosskills, that was something they did each night.

And there were 25 players (but one player was two players) so technically 24 players.

[Shadoweh]

im bak from course that was 8 hours longer then thought be and now i face
its probably not that great an idea for everyone with a night action to say so doofuses

[Eddard Stark]

Day 5, Vc 13

PrideandJoy (9) -

kanyeknowsbest, Tammy, Cephrir, Benmage, The Alchemist, elleheathen, AGar, Goat on a Raft, Titus

Titus (3) -

Goat on a Raft, Garuk Relentless, Nautilius

Cephrir (1) -

PrideandJoy

Goat on a Raft (1) -

Messiah Complex

The Alchemist (2) -

SafetyDance, ooba

Not voting (3) -

Alfred Borden, Shadoweh, Tierce

With 18 alive it takes 10 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 25th of Novemberat 10:00 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-11-25 10:00:00)
  

[Benmage]

Garruk 1v1 me fagget

This isn't bannable?

[Titus]

im bak from course that was 8 hours longer then thought be and now i face
its probably not that great an idea for everyone with a night action to say so doofuses

I love you. If I wasn't married and you were a man, I'd say let's go make post babies.

(In understandable words, I agree with this post entirely.)

[Messiah Complex]

im bak from course that was 8 hours longer then thought be and now i face
its probably not that great an idea for everyone with a night action to say so doofuses

WIFOM is a hell of a drug

- Des

[Messiah Complex]

Garruk 1v1 me fagget

This isn't bannable?

??

Pretty sure it was a joke.

- Des

[Titus]

I've read too much Bill Simmons lately...

The Shakey's Pizza Watch for D5 ... Ooba's vacillating reads ... PnJ's seemingly erratic posting to me ... people who still believe Titus is town ... Nautilus ... Benmage's sudden effort ... The apparent growings of an Alchemist wagon (did I miss a memo? I thought the coin thing was a fair bit towards TownAlch) ... Titus's posting in general ... Titus ... Yeah that's all I've got.

Stellar.

I know, ins't it?

Problem is until yesterday I had quadz pegged far on the town-side of things. So between him and SpyreX I've had two fairly confident town-reads be dead wrong. Plus the whole SD thing still makes my head hurt (Yes, the ninja thing very much bothers me to this point. Point for thought - quadz' cop claim semi-true and he awkardly 1v1'd an opposition scumbag to try and come to some sort of parity/get some association heat off of Chaos? The weird attempt-to-back down would then make some sense too,) and I'm not so easy to just go "Welp SD is town then," right now because of how much it bothers me. And then this Titus thing just ain't happening it seems. I've got "Zdenek read REALLY scummy to me." and "I blocked Titus N3 and there was no-kill N3." to go off of, and that's not buying the 9 other votes necessary.

So I probably really desperately need to re-read the past couple of days (D3-present is where my shit kinda falls apart) and compare them to where my head was at on D1-D2 and get myself squared away there. But the problem THERE is that I just don't have the time for that this week, so I'm kinda sheeping a few different townreads of varying shades, seeing what's compelling in thread to sway my vote and calling what I see in the moment for both the fact that it's things that look like bullshit and so I have something to work from when I can finally merge in the two halves of this game into one coherent non-clusterfuck, which will probably be sometime after Saturday.

So this is a really longwinded excuse as to why I'm doing nothing more than taking pot-shots at the moment and kinda just brainvomiting into the posting box.

This is usually where I try to throw out questions to get inside a player's head and have expectations of what the answer will be to determine alignment.

[Cephrir]

At this point I am reasonably certain everyone has a night action, or pretty close anyway.