Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

Tammy · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:48 pm

In post 224, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 221, Tammy wrote: You do realize that you were on that bandwagon, do you not?

What were your reasons?
Because Nacho told me to. And I like wagons.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:49 pm

If you have a problem then out with it.

The Rufflig · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:51 pm

In post 218, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I am voting with you in spirit, tammy.

That's discouraging. I was town reading you.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:53 pm

yeah ok that's terrible.

VOTE: rufflig

i was thinking that prohawk would've been more productive but this works as well

Tammy · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:53 pm

In post 226, Kazekirimaru wrote:If you have a problem then out with it.

I'm just gonna let that marinate.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:54 pm

In post 229, Tammy wrote:
In post 226, Kazekirimaru wrote:If you have a problem then out with it.
I'm just gonna let that marinate.

Have fun with that.

pitoli · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:19 pm

In post 166, Nachomamma8 wrote:Vote him; you'll find out soon enough.

Still waiting to be enlightened. Were you expecting the wagon?

I kinda like Tammy but it's more of a gut thing

Tammy · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:46 pm

You've been taking your activia!

pitoli · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:02 pm

You could have really stopped after one joke about guts lol

Minami no Hana · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:10 am

In post 173, The Rufflig wrote:Ok, so I missed a bunch.

Regarding "blue townie", my first thought was Kaze was role fishing. Some mods do use blue for town PRs. Kaze's later posts give me the feeling that this wasn't the case. His postings have grown on me a bit.

Much as I didn't like the blue townie trap, Fuzzy reacted badly to it. A town Fuzzy should have known he hadn't scum slipped when the votes suddenly came at him. The fact that he took those votes so seriously gives me pause. I'm going to be keeping an eye on him awhile longer.

Deacon is town telling. I don't like Deacon's heavy reliance on meta, but he is definitely putting in the effort. Deacon reminds me quite a bit of pitoli (who I am more familiar with).

I just got out of a game with pitoli - he wears his towniness on his sleeve for all to read. I would be very sad to learn that pitoli can fake this. I haven't seen his scum game, but I bet it isn't as good.

I still can't read Nacho for much more than beans, but I'm willing to give Prohawk some attention.

VOTE: Prohawk

L - 1

VOTE: The Rufflig

Minami no Hana · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:11 am

In post 176, Deacon Blues wrote:can someone please unvote?

In post 177, Mac wrote:
unvote

In post 178, Deacon Blues wrote:someone actually on the wagon?

lol

Minami no Hana · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:19 am

In post 208, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 201, Tammy wrote:Haven't read the game.
Here. Have some incentive to do so.

VOTE: Tammy

Actually, I kinda like this post.

In post 209, The Rufflig wrote:I'm also up for MafiaSSK, if anyone wants to go a hunting off wagon.

why?

Minami no Hana · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:20 am

In post 236, Minami no Hana wrote:Actually, I kinda like this post.

for the attitude*

Minami no Hana · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:27 am

In post 216, The Rufflig wrote:Do you know why the Prohawk wagon took off in the first place?

Yes

In post 216, The Rufflig wrote:If you know that, you can understand why I'm up for a MafiaSSK wagon and why I'm also all right with your wagon.

I can't.

In post 219, The Rufflig wrote:Well, it is a serious vote now and you've provided plenty of reasons for it.

What reasons?

In post 222, Tammy wrote:
In post 219, The Rufflig wrote:Well, it is a serious vote now and you've provided plenty of reasons for it.
Mkay. I feel better about my vote. Except you have a 100% better chance of flipping scum than I do.

In post 224, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 221, Tammy wrote: You do realize that you were on that bandwagon, do you not?

What were your reasons?
Because Nacho told me to. And I like wagons.

In post 222, Tammy wrote: Mkay. I feel better about my vote. Except you have a 100% better chance of flipping scum than I do.
If you're implying that's because you're town and he's scum technically he'd have an infinite percent better chance of flipping scum...

yeah never mind

In post 225, Tammy wrote:
In post 224, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 221, Tammy wrote: You do realize that you were on that bandwagon, do you not?

What were your reasons?
Because Nacho told me to. And I like wagons.

But isn't that what you were doing with ProHawk vote?

In post 227, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 218, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I am voting with you in spirit, tammy.
That's discouraging. I was town reading you.

Ok this is bad.

Minami no Hana · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:33 am

Hmm I was thinking of doing something but I forgot. I'll give it a few minutes to see if I can remember or not.

Minami no Hana · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:37 am

Oh I remembered

Scumometer (tm)
Kazekirimaru<Deacon Blues<orcinus_theoriginal<TheFuzzylogic99<Nachomamma8<Tammy<MafiaSSK<pitoli<Mac<ProHawk<Ms Marangal<The Rufflig

The order of strength varies.

Minami no Hana · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:40 am

Unanswered questions:

In post 131, Mac wrote:why is it giving you a townlean?

In post 28, Minami no Hana wrote:It's not like it was a towntell in the first place ♫

In post 123, Minami no Hana wrote:Oh also slight townlean on MafiaSSK for this post:

In post 11, MafiaSSK wrote:Mac wagons don't go whack.
(Call me a hypocrite. I don't care.)

In post 133, Kazekirimaru wrote:Is that a bad thing or something?

Bad for orci, good for me. I'm kinda decent at reading crazy ppl.

In post 133, Kazekirimaru wrote:What about it?

General tone. (More elaborate way to say "gut")

Deacon Blues · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:41 am

In post 240, Minami no Hana wrote:Scumometer (tm)

Minami no Hana · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:45 am

It is always nice to give fery a psychological shock once in a while!

Tammy · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:53 am

In post 238, Minami no Hana wrote:
In post 225, Tammy wrote:
In post 224, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 221, Tammy wrote: You do realize that you were on that bandwagon, do you not?

What were your reasons?
Because Nacho told me to. And I like wagons.

But isn't that what you were doing with ProHawk vote?

It absolutely was, and part of why I told him I was letting that marinate. The differences being, I was responding to a direct request from Nacho that I help him out with his wagon until I had a suspect to push, when he knew I didn't have any actual suspects because I said I hadn't read the game but skim and glaze over everyone's quote stripe walls. Also, I didn't then attempt to scum hunt the wagon I was on and claim people were scum for the exact same reasons I was on the wagon (though slightly different because I responded to a direct request and he was just bandgwagoning because Nacho had said it in general.) Hypocrisy isn't a scum tell necessarily, often just a deficiency in scumhunting, I'm interested in determining the difference.

Minami no Hana · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:56 am

Oh ok.
I didn't know what "marinate" meant.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:24 am

In post 241, Minami no Hana wrote: Bad for orci, good for me. I'm kinda decent at reading crazy ppl.

You're calling me crazy? ._.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:26 am

In post 244, Tammy wrote: It absolutely was, and part of why I told him I was letting that marinate. The differences being, I was responding to a direct request from Nacho that I help him out with his wagon until I had a suspect to push, when he knew I didn't have any actual suspects because I said I hadn't read the game but skim and glaze over everyone's quote stripe walls. Also, I didn't then attempt to scum hunt the wagon I was on and claim people were scum for the exact same reasons I was on the wagon (though slightly different because I responded to a direct request and he was just bandgwagoning because Nacho had said it in general.) Hypocrisy isn't a scum tell necessarily, often just a deficiency in scumhunting, I'm interested in determining the difference.

Okay, then.

Do you think there was no scum on the wagon? If there were, who do you think it would be?

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:31 am

@ Kaze
You seem to be atleast 99% sure that Orcinus is a nice blue townie ... Why do you feel so strong Orcinus is town
You said that No Hana or Tammy are scum.... Your explanation was not that great in my opinion. Could you go into more detals why you believe that one ( or possible Both) are scum

@ Tammy
So do you believe that there was no scum on the Pro-Hawk wagon

@ The ruffling
Please explain you motivation(s) for puttting a vote on Tammy. From my POv it seem like a kind of weak reason... If it is a push it kinda seemed like a pointless push. Meaning there are better reason to push a player.

Tammy · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:19 am

In post 247, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 244, Tammy wrote: It absolutely was, and part of why I told him I was letting that marinate. The differences being, I was responding to a direct request from Nacho that I help him out with his wagon until I had a suspect to push, when he knew I didn't have any actual suspects because I said I hadn't read the game but skim and glaze over everyone's quote stripe walls. Also, I didn't then attempt to scum hunt the wagon I was on and claim people were scum for the exact same reasons I was on the wagon (though slightly different because I responded to a direct request and he was just bandgwagoning because Nacho had said it in general.) Hypocrisy isn't a scum tell necessarily, often just a deficiency in scumhunting, I'm interested in determining the difference.
Okay, then.

Do you think there was no scum on the wagon? If there were, who do you think it would be?

Don't know, couldn't care less.

Wagon analysis before a flip is stupid. You're literally scumhunting on a wagon, you were on, for no reason, for someone you have no idea what their alignment is, because they joined the wagon for the same reason you did. You're not scumhunting the wagon; you're scattershot voting and making up a reason. The faster you admit that to yourself the better you'll be.

I'm voting for who I think scum is.