Mini 1531 ~ Mafia Pinnipedum (Game Over!)

[Sixty]

ΛI ʇunoƆ ǝʇoΛ~

Does Bo Know (L-3)

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(The Purple Plague,)

Lady Lambdadelta, kanyeknowsbest, Kazekirimaru, The Purple Plague

Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-6)

~ Plum,

(Kazekirimaru)

Selkies (L-6)

~ Garmr

Kazekirimaru (L-6)

~ walked into a club

Natirasha (L-6)

~ Natirasha

walked into a club (L-6)

~ Selkies

Plum (L-6)

~ Does Bo Know

Not Voting:

Debonair Danny DiPietro, penguin_alien, Smudger,

(The Purple Plague,)

--With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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[Smudger]

Bo. not really focused on him (DDD) or anyone else in particular at this moment. Nothing seems to be a stand out for me after reading through, why do you ask?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Bo. not really focused on him (DDD) or anyone else in particular at this moment. Nothing seems to be a stand out for me after reading through, why do you ask?

I'm his way of looking like he's doing something productive.

[Selkies]

Well, this blew up.

[Selkies]

whom this particular hydra consists of

Why is it that people do this "oh no big bad cabd not bothering to sort you" shit? (Or if you wanna make malakittens feel awesome reply that you are afraid of her not me)

you're not big and you're not bad just that sorting you has a high risk/reward element, so I would be more cautious in sorting you than if i were to try and sort other people

[Selkies]

^^That post was in response to the vote on me.

No but when I voted you and thought about it again Kaze, I feel like you might've been right about DDD still, regardless of your comments toward Club.

*sigh* I have a feeling plenty of this game is gonna be a meta fest and will mostly consist of me misreading people for their actual playstyles.

*cheers*

this could be scum disguising faked reads, but given the fact that DBK hasn't been trying to lead anything, but rather been posting a bunch of waffly stuff, I'm leaning towards town.

[Selkies]

Lady Lambdadelta reminds me a bit like tammy with her anger

[Selkies]

Cabd, what do you think of how self-conscious bo seems?

[Kazekirimaru]

also if we pull the wait until the last minute before deadline to lynch shit in this game too im gonna throw a fucking fit. im gonna get completely hysterical and inconsolable.

Sentiment shared.

Bo. not really focused on him (DDD) or anyone else in particular at this moment. Nothing seems to be a stand out for me after reading through, why do you ask?

Really? Not a single thing in eight pages pings you?

@Nacho: Nope, I'm not very good at pushing wagons. In all my years of experience, I've come to the generalization that I'm not entirely too good at Mafia. I've spent most of my career sheeping other players' reasoning and I seem to be more right when I listen to arguments other players give than trying to find more scumtells on my own. It's why I usual resort to PoE most of the time.

It's not like I'm mindless. I do my best to consider all the arguments everyone gives. It's just difficult for me to lock down on a scum if they're even scum.

When I said earlier that I realized my mistake, it was mostly on reference to a philosophy I had pushed for a few years, including in Newbie games: your vote should always be on someone you suspect the most (like I basically had not done).

But also throughout the years, I remember playing a few games where sometimes, you have to make the best of your vote, like a vote on your top suspect if it's the only vote might not be as valuable as an L-2 wagon vote on your second-best scum pick because it's better for pressuring and such. I guess that strategy with votes resonated more with me at the time of my decision.

I switched back on Plum because you guys were asking me why I wasn't doing it (suspecting me for it as well) and then I had to think "Yeah, I probably should be doing that instead."

Oh, and excuse me Nacho for not being able to tell between you and Marangal. I guess I'm more used to your Newbie game playstyle, which is much more calm.

So

you're going to sheep people and not push your scumreads

and you voted Plum to appease people were asking you why you weren't.

Am I following you correctly?

I'm his way of looking like he's doing something productive.

Aren't you nice?

How about you do that productive thing sometime?

[Selkies]

Hi kaze

Tell me who I should be looking at

[The Purple Plague]

Hi ffery

What do you think of a truce d1? No suspecting each other, no paranoia, nothing and that the other as if we were masons.

Additionally, what so you think of making an artificial town block consisting of you, us, mala/cadb, and kaze?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

(A) I'm his way of looking like he's doing something productive.

(B) Aren't you nice?

How about you do that productive thing sometime?

I don't see what A has to do with B given my statement isn't mean, it's a simple conjecture about his behavior in the game that I'm the thing he points at when he needs to have an opinion or get the attention off himself. Do you disagree?

Sometime? Yeah, I can probably be productive sometime; not now though.

[Smudger]

Kaze, nothing goes PING! Except Bo's shit reason to vote Purple, your friendly easy going playing style and a sudden desire to drink tea.

What about you, besides your underwear elastic, what pings you?

[Smudger]

Oh and why Selkie values your opinion and why Purple wants an artificial town block?

[Kazekirimaru]

Hi kaze

Tell me who I should be looking at

Hi there.

Bo is a good place to start, it seems.

Aside from that Smudger looks odd to me, and Nati to some extent though I'm not sure why yet. Starting to think my early suspicions of DDD are nothing.

(A) I'm his way of looking like he's doing something productive.

(B) Aren't you nice?

How about you do that productive thing sometime?

I don't see what A has to do with B given my statement isn't mean, it's a simple conjecture about his behavior in the game that I'm the thing he points at when he needs to have an opinion or get the attention off himself. Do you disagree?

Sometime? Yeah, I can probably be productive sometime; not now though.

I jumbled that statement up in my brain. Sorry. Thought it said something completely different.

Tempted to look into your games to see if you start slow as a rule but considering I seem to be the only one caring about this it must be so.

Kaze, nothing goes PING! Except Bo's shit reason to vote Purple, your friendly easy going playing style and a sudden desire to drink tea.

What about you, besides your underwear elastic, what pings you?

I have a "friendly, easy going playing style"? I thought I was moderately snide, at best.

What pings me? A lot of things. Bo's apparent need to appease people pings me, DDD's "I'll get to it later attitude" pings me, and Nati's still self-voting.

Oh and why Selkie values your opinion and why Purple wants an artificial town block?

Because they're cool.

And I think I'll not comment on what NachoMara's doing until they're actually doing it.

[Selkies]

Hi ffery

What do you think of a truce d1? No suspecting each other, no paranoia, nothing and that the other as if we were masons.

Additionally, what so you think of making an artificial town block consisting of you, us, mala/cadb, and kaze?

was not fery

why woul we townbloc when we haven't even gotten into the game yet

[Selkies]

Hi there.

Bo is a good place to start, it seems.

Aside from that Smudger looks odd to me, and Nati to some extent though I'm not sure why yet. Starting to think my early suspicions of DDD are nothing.

I don't understand the case on bo could you talk to me about it

[Kazekirimaru]

I don't understand the case on bo could you talk to me about it

There's not much of a case right now. Just poke it and see what comes out.

I personally dislike how he keeps taking a conciliating tone in posts like 105 and 172.

And then there's the fact that he claims to dislike pushing scum by himself, yet he's currently the solitary vote on Plum. Before that he was voting with someone else with his other two votes. The vote on Plum just looks all-around odd to me, actually. It reads to me, along with being a placating vote like I stated earlier, as a "look at me, I do stuff on my own!" exclamation. Going against the grain for the sake of it. He even stated he didn't expect anything to come of it.

[Smudger]

Kaze. The easy going comment, it was sarcasm,

[Selkies]

hi friends

VOTE: walked into a club yes really they are scum

Oi. You're supposed to live until day four or so; finally get a townread me, and then die to my nightkill. Get with the picture orcinus.

I thought this was stale meta.

Mod meta is a thing. Although I think venrob used the battery the best.

Did you make this account just for this game? Because if you did you're an asshole. A wonderful, hilarious, asshole.

I made it just to antagonize selkies, so yes.

So many troll attempts, so few stunning successes. Also, nobody ever exceeds Syr telling me that pere flipped scum on day 2 of Paradox Prime for trolling.

whtasts fwrong w. being 13

<3

Avoided all possible RVS wagon choices, producing lots of fluff and pretty much zero relevant content. Preventing the kickstart of scumhunting.

I thought his answers to the questions about ideal RVS were pretty interesting. I followed a recent newbie game where he was scum, and IMO his comments about ideal RVS when he's scum matches both his play and his postgame comments in that game.

How is he preventing the kickstart of scumhunting?

Avoided all possible RVS wagon choices

Am I scum for not having a vote, then?

So the RVS change-up is a thing, then.

whom this particular hydra consists of

Why is it that people do this "oh no big bad cabd not bothering to sort you" shit? (Or if you wanna make malakittens feel awesome reply that you are afraid of her not me)

It's both of you, actually. In the games I've played with either of you separately, I've had a correct read zero times. Deal with it.

People would probably be more willing to sort you, Cabd, if fucking with people as both alignments and apathy weren't the key aspects that you're known for. Kthx

He's not looking very apathetic atm.

Checked your ISO in AA. I didn't remember that you were scumreading him during part of day 1, but so you were.

I know it seems unlikely right now, I usually become less and less active in really active games and then I end up feeling the same way. I had to replace out of one of Bork's games because of it, ask Selkies.

borkgame micro. IIRC my townread of you crumbled due to the activity fall-off. :/

the subject of DDD acting abnormally?

I don't see how that makes him scum,

and Cabd/mala defending them even more so

What does the bolded mean?

[The Purple Plague]

Huh

Well; could of, should of, would of

Chosen mafia.

The chance that we are all town is better Than that game but still not entirely likely. We all have had a fair amount of games with the other and we know moth about each other than we do the others in those game.

The others in this game not in the block are arguably strong though they lack the familiarity that would make this block work.

We all also have records of letting our pride/paranoia/w/e he tuck get in the way ogre our acumen hunting and if we take that out of the equation it'll make for a much more cohesive and successful game.

(I also have needs and macho into here to fulfill them, and you got me in this game in the first place)

[The Purple Plague]

I don't see anything bolded

[Selkies]

If she were pushing for something to talk about

Plum would be talking about it.

But she isn't.

I wanna wagon Plum but I don't think anyone else wants to.

Can you explain your basis for thinking Plum is scum in a little more detail?

Yay
More votes

Oh now I see, I'm suspicious for not wanting to be the first vote on a wagon?

Even though, at this point, absolutely no one seems remotely interested in joining me?

Whatever, I'll try anyway.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Plum

Though I'm sure this is a useless vote change anyway since everyone will be on my ass.

This seems kinda overworked and defensive.

can you restate for me the extent of why you think plum is scum and at which point it changed from an rvs read to a real read?

When DDD had posted, Plum voted DDD. And then after we had talked about DDD, Plum comes in only to comment about something irrelevant with Kaze. That's pretty much all I had, but I felt like it was more than what DDD had done, even if it's not by much.

But now that Plum is coming across more as a "read now, post later" type of player I'm not even sure about that anymore.

I have one completed game with Plum. She was scum. She didn't banter at all in that game that I remember. She seems much more relaxed here.

am I really that bad LLD?

Bo, I was asking you to self-vote~~

but

UNVOTE:

Ah. I was wondering if you'd forgotten where your vote was.

yes

yes I am

and I want nacho to comment and make some reads on this player list and what has happened before someone gets lynched and we die.

because Nacho always die super early for some reason, I hope that this player list off-sets that, but I can't be to sure~~

You're thinking someone's gonna quickhammer before you're back online?

Good stuff an active game, very active, also seems I am in the wrong time zone, seven pages and all I am getting is the "why Bo did you vote for Plum" saga..

my time zone is CET +3/GMT +4

I have to agree with these two posts 164 and 166 ..

I have no clue who half of you are, but apparently you are all fairly well experienced, great. I have though played in a game or two with Bo, DDD and Nachomamma and currently in a game with P_A.

getting back to Bo and Plum. so Bo your vote on Plum is explained in 146 ?

Hi. ffery/Rift Adrift here.

You seem somewhat less opinionated about the early game than I recall from On a Boat.

Hi ffery

What do you think of a truce d1? No suspecting each other, no paranoia, nothing and that the other as if we were masons.

Additionally, what so you think of making an artificial town block consisting of you, us, mala/cadb, and kaze?

O hai Trolling Fairy.

Huh

Well; could of, should of, would of

Chosen mafia.

The chance that we are all town is better Than that game but still not entirely likely. We all have had a fair amount of games with the other and we know moth about each other than we do the others in those game.

The

others in this game

not in the block are arguably strong though they lack the familiarity that would make this block work.

We all also have records of letting our pride/paranoia/w/e he tuck get in the way ogre our acumen hunting and if we take that out of the equation it'll make for a much more cohesive and successful game.

(I also have needs and macho into here to fulfill them, and you got me in this game in the first place)

Do you think that Chosen would have worked out better if we had taken Mastin's suggestion?

What others in this game are you talking about?

Your autofill applet is hilariously awesome.

[Does Bo Know]

Yep. I changed my vote to appease people. You guys were suspecting me for something really stupid. So I changed my mind and went to the philosophy I usually follow instead of that other reason.

And then I got weak and decided to let out how shitty I think my scumhunting and wagon pushing really is.

The end

[Does Bo Know]

I don't understand the case on bo could you talk to me about it

There's not much of a case right now. Just poke it and see what comes out.

I personally dislike how he keeps taking a conciliating tone in posts like 105 and 172.

And then there's the fact that he claims to dislike pushing scum by himself, yet he's currently the solitary vote on Plum. Before that he was voting with someone else with his other two votes. The vote on Plum just looks all-around odd to me, actually. It reads to me, along with being a placating vote like I stated earlier, as a "look at me, I do stuff on my own!" exclamation. Going against the grain for the sake of it. He even stated he didn't expect anything to come of it.

How is there not much of a case

When you basically gave a case appropriate considering the amount of actual content so far?