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Post Post #4750 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:31 am

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Prohawk, still want to hear about why you think Harakiri is scum, but of the wagons going on right now, Harakiri does seem scummiest, and I'm not as convinced about eagle as I was before.

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Post Post #4751 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:51 am

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In post 4750, penguin_alien wrote:Prohawk, still want to hear about why you think Harakiri is scum, but of the wagons going on right now, Harakiri does seem scummiest, and I'm not as convinced about eagle as I was before.

VOTE: Harakiri
:goodposting:

Are you dolts seriously lynching me? Like, wtf???????
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Post Post #4752 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:54 am

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Vote Count 6.13


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Harakiri (3): ProHawk, Lord Mhork, penguin_alien
1baldeagle1 (2): Harakiri, Nero Cain
Nero Cain (1): uʍop ǝpısdn

uʍop ǝpısdn (1): 1baldeagle1
Lost Butterfly (1): VoidedMafia

Not Voting (4): Lost Butterfly, zMuffinMan, BBmolla, Garuda

Deadline for Day 6 is Tuesday, December 24th, at 5:00pm EST (site time).
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(expired on 2013-12-24 17:00:00)
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Post Post #4753 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:57 am

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In post 4742, Garuda wrote:I'm starting to think eagle is town again. Neros reaction after Muffin-post suggests he didn't have any sort of clue that he was confirmed scum, and voting eagle during the counter wagons could have easily been nero not really caring which lynch went through since they were both town. I don't think eagle last two posts are scum eagle posts, and I think that Nero would be less likely to be double governed if the most obvious counter wagon was a scum wagon since obviously your wagon didn't have any legs.
Why are you even reading Nero's posts?
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Post Post #4754 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:03 am

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In post 4747, ProHawk wrote:I don't think Eagle is a good lynch.
You're just being contrary for the sake of being contrary at this point, aren't you?
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Post Post #4755 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:05 am

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Molla and/or muffinman, how similar do you think nacho's play in this game is to his play in my game?
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Post Post #4756 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:36 am

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In post 4751, Harakiri wrote:
In post 4750, penguin_alien wrote:Prohawk, still want to hear about why you think Harakiri is scum, but of the wagons going on right now, Harakiri does seem scummiest, and I'm not as convinced about eagle as I was before.

VOTE: Harakiri
:goodposting:

Are you dolts seriously lynching me? Like, wtf???????
Don't worry, I know you are town.

You should help me lynch scumEagle.

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Last edited by Magua on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4757 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:31 am

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In post 4748, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 4743, Garuda wrote:Ghostly penguin wagon isnt that exciting either. Voided, who are you thinking of voting?
Vote: Lost Butterfly


Also, someone please explain why double gov. = Nero confscum to this poor, addled man?
Voided, what are you doing. Why do you think LB is the safest lynch out of everyone here?

Those of you voting for Hara, I am not convinced, it's too risky. There are safer lynches, such as Molla or uwop.
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Post Post #4758 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:46 am

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Baldeagle please answer my queation.
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Post Post #4759 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:51 am

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I hate doing bbcode from my phone but I want to log back into my main so I my as well do this now.
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Post Post #4760 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:06 am

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In post 4755, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Molla and/or muffinman, how similar do you think nacho's play in this game is to his play in my game?
Which game? N mafia?
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Post Post #4761 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:07 am

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In post 4758, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Baldeagle please answer my queation.
Was getting to it, but got interrupted.

I don't understand the question, because the game has the similar tone he has here. I learned that Voided tends to be a bit more "angry" when town.
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Post Post #4762 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:17 am

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In post 4760, BBmolla wrote:
In post 4755, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Molla and/or muffinman, how similar do you think nacho's play in this game is to his play in my game?
Which game? N mafia?
Yeah, the one with the long name I can never remember. That's the one!
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Post Post #4763 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:24 am

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In post 4761, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 4758, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Baldeagle please answer my queation.
Was getting to it, but got interrupted.

I don't understand the question, because the game has the similar tone he has here. I learned that Voided tends to be a bit more "angry" when town.
Which question of mine are you answering here? Not the one I fucking asked you.

How is your meta read chang on voided any different than what you are calling quilford and molla out for? O
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Post Post #4764 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:52 pm

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penguin_alien, uh, what exactly caused your sudden shift towards Harakiri, given that I don't think your slot has voiced any suspicion whatsoever of them all game and the only reason to do a sudden turnaround on them is because of the $1 bid (which you seemed to think "didn't convince you")?
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Post Post #4765 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:32 pm

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Also, it's weird that people are making assumptions about eagle's alignment based on Nero when 1) Nero's vote on eagle came after MULTIPLE PEOPLE ALREADY CALLED HIM CONFIRMED SCUM IN THE THREAD, and 2) the two halves of the scumteam probably don't know each other (otherwise, I'd have found Garuda's point about governing Nero while eagle was the likely counterwagon a strong one--it's enough to make a Nero-eagle partnership less likely despite eagle's voting history being consistent with it).

Something I'd mentioned to Harakiri in the neighbourhood QT and that's been bugging me about eagle: I'd cleared him for some early clueless posts that seemed completely uninformed ("really, scum might have more money than $100? There are more than three scum? You don't say!"), but in his later posts this game, he comes across as much more level-headed and competent. On a reread, the lost-sheep vibe seemed genuine than I'd remembered. It also occurred to me that his stance on Voided would make more sense as someone who was genuinely scumhunting for the other Mafia half.

eagle, can you define for me what you mean by a "safe" lynch?
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Post Post #4766 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:43 pm

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EBWOP: less genuine than I'd remembered.
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Post Post #4767 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:01 pm

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On a re-read, there are a few things bugging me about Harakiri aside from things I had already mentioned.
In post 858, Harakiri wrote:
Sakura asked me to come in here and build us a plan, so I am.


We're likely advertising Market Analyst so I can attack the game from a cash angle.
This never happened.
In post 2132, Harakiri wrote::( Sakura ruining my fun.

Anyways, I did as I did for a few reasons.

1. I knew the scum team would kill someone in the six.
2. They still have their dirty tricks. I understand we have a plan in place, but they can still use them.
3. I suspect we have scum in our six
and I am not fine with possibly burning our money that way.
4. I'm selfish, and if Sakura is willing to play along...

But, yes, we went for messenger and Wage Freeze primarily. Messenger to send someone the message that we did it, Wage Freeze because duh. The rest, I was just hoping to pick up the slack of what you guys missed.
They never hunted in the six. At all. You could argue they went after Upside Down, however the first time it was a sheep vote... actually no it was pretty much just a sheep vote.

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Were the original six. PV, Pie, Pyro, and Morph have all flipped town. If they actually believed that one scum was found in the original six they should be all over a LB or UD lynch. They aren't.

Their vote on DP looks pretty much like a bus given they weren't anywhere in the ballpark reads-wise and just threw their vote into the mix.
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Post Post #4768 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:33 am

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Wait.

I just realized there are very, very high chances (like, >50%) that the scumteams know each other now that Nero has been outed (unless Harakiri really didn't send his team's bids in and pieguyn won it, that is).

Hey, upside down. If you don't send me a message within the next twenty-four hours that says, "I am upside down, and I have not used my messenger shot, yet," you're getting lynched today.
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Post Post #4769 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:18 am

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ProHawk actually made a decent point on Harakiri. I've seen their claimed actions. They made a show about wanting to advertise Market Analyst and break the game with mechanics; when it came around the first time, they apparently bid $10 on it...as well as $10 on every other ability that came up for auction except for NK, Wage Freeze, and Messenger (that's what caused the error--the math checked out AFTER the bids were all resolved, but after bidding on everything, they should have had -$10). When it came around the second time, they didn't bid on it at all.

Harakiri, why didn't you make more of an effort to win Market Analyst? Or even find out who had it?
In post 4748, Voidedmafia wrote:Also, someone please explain why double gov. = Nero confscum to this poor, addled man?
You realize the only possible reason why Nero would be governed twice as
town
(saving him for the LYLO mislynch because today is no longer MYLO) means I'm confirmed town, right? Also, that Nero's "HAHAHAHAHAHA" came before you asked this?

This is something that drives me crazy about you, and I'm not sure how much of it is playstyle-related. You ask really, really pointless questions that don't lead anywhere at all, and pad your posts with filler. And to be honest, I REALLY don't like the fact you started the day out by acting as though I was confirmed town, and then the bulk of your developing paranoia of me consisted of tangential nitpicking like "Really, you called Espeonage confirmed town in a throwaway comment expressing voter's remorse? Well, you're wrong! He wasn't confirmed town at all, and you should have thought he was only SOLID town at earlier on." (NO SHIT. "CONFIRMED TOWN" WAS HYPERBOLE. I WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED HIM IF HE WAS
ACTUALLY
CONFIRMED TOWN.) I'd understand if you suspected me for 180-ing on a townread, despite the fact that I'm pretty obviously town at this point and none of my play makes any sense whatsoever for scum unless I'm deliberately trying to make the game harder for myself as a challenge, but for overstating how town I'd found the player
who I'd voted
(for which the scum motivation is...um...making my turnaround look worse)?
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Post Post #4770 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:20 am

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Why does no one here give a shit right now?
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Post Post #4771 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:39 pm

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As you know, LB, I advertised in Market Analyst the night before. Then I saw Mhork(I think?) Do well with his cast a wide net strategy the night before and tried to do the same thing.

It clearly didn't work. I went for Messenger and Wage Freeze specifically because they were useful and in Messenger's case I initially intended to 'go along' with the plan but tell Morph or Pyrotechnics or someone I trusted that I wasn't secretly. Instead we did the claiming thing and I kinda said fuck it.
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Post Post #4772 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:22 am

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prod dodge.

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Post Post #4773 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:10 am

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In post 4769, Lost Butterfly wrote:You ask really, really pointless questions that don't lead anywhere at all, and pad your posts with filler.
This x10000!

I think its less of a people not caring as much as people aren't really sure that the site is up/haven't had time to work on the game.
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Post Post #4774 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:19 am

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prohawk wrote:people aren't really sure that the site is up/haven't had time to work on the game.
this. every time i've tried for the last 3 days it's been down except for a brief period of time i checked on my phone a little over a day ago and then when i got home, down.

tired atm, will get to this after sleep
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