Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[Nachomamma8]

I really wish you hadn't done that but it's funny nonetheless

And by the way, I believe that you get mod-confirmed regardless of how I die

How's it funny?

I don't actually, there are specific cases where your death won't confirm me, but I won't reveal them.

Wait, why do you sound like you knew my role?

Wait, why do you sound my role?
Is kind of weird. It's not like he has any reason to get paranoid here.

[Nachomamma8]

Prohawk, would you mind dropping this for the time being?

The WIFOM that'll likely come out of it isn't the best thing, especially D1. If need be, we can bring this up D3 which should be, at worst case scenario, the day before lylo.

it isn't going to get us anywhere for the time being.

MMMMMMM this is actually kinda weird!

[Nachomamma8]

Someone convince me Fuzzy is just a derptown, please. Because I seriously want to see him hanged and I don't know if that's just spite talking or not.

This is another strange read flip on Fuzzy, and coincides with Maras earlier Fuzzy-push.

[Nachomamma8]

Another Mara note, doesn't really seem to be doing anything as of 718. She townread me pretty fucking easily by that point, and there was no follow up on it at all, which feels strange and different. Don't remember if she behaved similarly in N game, but her reasons for two reading me were wink wink nudge nudge reasons which make it a different situation.

[Nachomamma8]

Yeah I do

We all know you have a habit of being bad at scumbuddy interactions

this is the worst gond dmdaoif hfuckign comment hyou coulnd have ever, EVER stated

fucking ever

You can talk shit about every other aspect of my play, but you can't talk shit about how I interact with scumbuddies

I guess what we need to take away from the Mara meltdown is that she isn't scumbuddies with Rufflig :/

[Nachomamma8]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mara

Kaze, why did you vote Mara here and why did you think she was scum after the meltdown?

[Nachomamma8]

I don't think I wish to pursue a pitoli lynch at the moment.

I feel bad for whomever ends up trying to fix Mara's slot.

And yet you were pushing pitoli earlier, weren't you? Why did you stop pushing her?

[Nachomamma8]

That's okay. I really just want to know why you voted me because I didn't feel any conviction behind it.

oh there isn't conviction behind it
why did you vote me instead of ask me why?

Because omgus can get you places? "There isn't conviction behind it" is not really the explanation I was looking for, btw

This is a ballsy way to address me voting her.

[Nachomamma8]

Shove your textwalls into an orifice of your choosing.

Fucking FUCK

I bet you think you're so clever. With your fucking walls. Blatantly admitting to handwaving my case away. Mocking my scumhunting and calling my case poor. Ugh.

Whatever. I'm used to people not listening to me. I'm sure Fuzzy or some other lynchbait will get the hammer towards deadline and we'll have a pisspoor start like most games do. I don't even care anymore. Today is a wash as far as I'm concerned.

WALLS I HATE YOU
Wasn't the proper response.

[Nachomamma8]

a selfvote would be cool

And calling Kaze scum while not even addressing his claim is pretty fucking strange.
There's the whole "oh I would totally vig you" and "oh so you're saying you would vig a townie?" feels like scum theatre between two people who know they aren't getting lynched.

[Nachomamma8]

See, most townies I've seen, when they have been part of a mislynch, there's usually a moment the next day where they might pause to collect their bearings or something of that nature, or even seem mildly apologetic (though the apologetic part can be easy to fake as scum). The mislynch acts like a shakeup. If a townie was wrong about a particular read, it's reason enough to reconsider other players thought to be scum. Mac is no longer obvtown for me because I didn't sense this pause at all. If he is scum, this is a rather clever way of faking a confirmation bias towards me.

I did t pause either.

Maybe, but there are other things to suggest you're town. My obvtownread on Mac was based mostly on how he was approaching reading me and others.

Town

Kaze & Orci
Tammy
ProHawk
Mac
-------
pitoli
Myko
-------
Fuzzy
Nacho
Rufflig
SakuraGiF

Not so Town

Scumread positions interchangeable.

Mm. Hither.

VOTE: Minami no Hana

Rufflig likely scum with them.

This is the read flip that happened when just a little before Kaze was asking if anyone would reconsider his case on myko.

[Nachomamma8]

So, do I think that there is a chance for Kaze being scum based on play? Yes.
I think that scumteams are probably going to be pitoli/Kaze/myko or Rufflig/Minaho/pitoli, which sucks because I think there is a lot to like in pitolis play compared to anyone else's in the possible scumteam bits. Minaho being scum would take a fuckton of luck.

Orc, what do you think?

[ProHawk]

Nacho, if you are town, remind me to threaten you with a day-vig everygame to get you to actually make you work.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ The Original

I know that You are Asch the Bloody. It was pretty easy to figure out. The vig role does not make 100 % sense but from what I learned from deathnote the game sometimes is not always what it seems . There were a bunch of oddly placed PR in that game.. . I prefer you do not kill me however if you do than it will confirm my some of my reads so it wont be a total useless death. I think Pit would be the best choice. It would clarify the field as well as he the scummiest at the moment.

@ No Hana
Are you making a cop claim

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I think that Necromancer is a reviver . Makes sense since in the series Jade was secretly bringing soldiers back to life.


VOTE: Pit

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Maybe we can get a day extension seeing it is Christmas and alot of us are busy being with the family whether we want to be or not

Merry Christmas Y'all

[Kazekirimaru]

Orci, vig fuzzy. There is zero reason for a townie to speculate about Lovers.

Hi, Nacho. Still not scum.

[Kazekirimaru]

I think there were questions

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mara

Kaze, why did you vote Mara here and why did you think she was scum after the meltdown?

I thought the meltdown was fake. Still kinda do, though less sure.

I don't think I wish to pursue a pitoli lynch at the moment.

I feel bad for whomever ends up trying to fix Mara's slot.

And yet you were pushing pitoli earlier, weren't you? Why did you stop pushing her?

I forget.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Orci, vig fuzzy. There is zero reason for a townie to speculate about Lovers.

Hi, Nacho. Still not scum.

why not??

[Kazekirimaru]

@ The Original

I know that You are Asch the Bloody. It was pretty easy to figure out. The vig role does not make 100 % sense but from what I learned from deathnote the game sometimes is not always what it seems . There were a bunch of oddly placed PR in that game.. . I prefer you do not kill me however if you do than it will confirm my some of my reads so it wont be a total useless death. I think Pit would be the best choice. It would clarify the field as well as he the scummiest at the moment.

@ No Hana
Are you making a cop claim

wait a second WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

MY ROLE PM SAYS ORCI IS A DIFFERENT ROLE THAN THIS

[Kazekirimaru]

Orci you need to get in here and explain this discrepancy to me.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Maybe I am wrong... It seems to be the most likely sense you claimed stalker.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

In the mythos it says that Natalia loved Ascch but he did not love her back. Also that Natalia was heavily dependent on him. All this made me strongly believe that Orcina was Asch. Like i said i could be wrong

[Kazekirimaru]

Are you telling me that that was speculation and not an actual rolecop result?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Yes.....