Open 541 - Too Many Heads Mafia (Game Over)

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:23 pm

In post 1546, Generically Purple wrote:
In post 1519, Athenas Fury wrote:
In post 1499, Generically Purple wrote: SG? She was (and is) lost as all fuck in this game, and she still hasn't come back
please please please don't discount SG as being lost in this game. She is good at scum and to discount that could be destructive.
So, you know who she is? and, if this is the case then my town-read on her (and the reason behind it) is completely sunk. Generic thinks that she could be scum using my town-read on her to do stuff.

I *think* I know who SG is. I'm not going to claim that I'm absolutely positive I know who she is. But I think she's way trickier than people are giving her credit for.

gp wrote: RE AP what he can fake, unless he is able to pretend to be his partners as well, it isn't going to be applicable here. Guyett is the one who hammered, and him and ETL are the ones who were showing Irritation over mollie and I don't recall a single pigey post that showed that in game town-frustration. I am unsure if Guyett is able to fake that kind of stuff, but I sure as hell don't think that ETL will do that kind of thing as scum. (This isn't very solid) but I think as scum, ETL is similar to me in that she a little less emotional, and alot more manipulative and often enjoys the game regardless of what's going on.

I thought it was ap at the end of day yesterday. (except for the blacklist requests, that didn't sound like ap) I'm not sure what guyett and etl can fake. I've only seen guyett as scum once and that's when he replaced me in red wine and didn't really do a whole lot. I might need to reassess that read then if it wasn't ap. Though fishy's points about the hammer might still stand. I'll need to talk to him.

gp wrote: RE Kitty, do you think there is any kind of scum-hunting going on in rach's post? and, with Mala, I don't think my game is a good game to pin a scum-meta on her. I had gotten the impression that she didn't like her role, but she was also scumhunting, I think, which is something scum-mala wouldn't really have to do.

well i kinda thought that the tammy hasn't called me scum yet so she might be scum (even though she hadn't even posted) felt like weird townish paranoia. I've never actually seen rach!scum so the markers I have from nacho are a little blind.

gp wrote:
as for her trying to stop the 1v1, I can see where you are coming with that but I have seen scum use that before, and far weaker than Mala.

fair enough i guess. but the mara. stop. collaborate and listen. felt townish? unless she felt like she was about to lose the 1v1 which is the only reason I could see her putting a stop to it.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:29 pm

I be reading them. I see no reads.

#1508 Ye say yer gonna get yer (combined?) thoughts out
#1512 Ye waffle on about PFR's hammer but don't actually give yer opinion on anything - there is literally nothing of substance in there and the conclusion ye come to is he could be town but he could be faking it, so he could be scum?
#1514 Is the longest waffle without any real conclusion I've ever seen, ye call some things townish but then finish with something about how mara scum tunnels.
#1517 Call TNE head town because dumb, but then conclude with GIF being absent might point to them being scum. Again, no real conclusion. Then ye say ye have a tendency to town read people who amuse ye so SC is a town read? Does this even count as a read?
#1518 Presumably points to a scum read on us but no reasons given
#1519 I dunno what the fuck this is but it's not a read

So where the fuck are these reads or thoughts on the game that ye guys supposedly discussed?

In post 1508, Athenas Fury wrote:Okay I'm going to attempt to get our thoughts down tonight.

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:30 pm

Why are you pretending like you've never played with me before?

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:30 pm

In post 1550, Athenas Fury wrote:well i kinda thought that the tammy hasn't called me scum yet so she might be scum (even though she hadn't even posted) felt like weird townish paranoia.
I've never actually seen rach!scum so the markers I have from nacho are a little blind.

Add this to the list of fence-sitting without committing to an actual read.

Why don't ye just give all your reads, in order of strength, so I not be so confused about where ye stand on things?

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:31 pm

i dont' do those. suck it.

again, i ask. why are you, both heads, acting like you've never played with me before?

serious question is serious question.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:33 pm

Why do ye tell me to ask for yer reads, and then not give yer reads?

We can do this the slow way, where I ask about each name one by one until yer've actually given a read on people, or ye can speed up the process and just give yer fuckin' reads.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:36 pm

In post 1549, Athenas Fury wrote:If there's a particular person you're wondering about, ask me.

I be wondering about these people.

Squirrel Girl
Paranoia Fueled Rampage
Stuffed Crust
Mhork and Mindy
Yggdra Union
Generically Purple
Rancid Broderick Drake
Si and Am

Could ye give me yer reads on them?

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:38 pm

why don't you give all of your reads in order of strength?

I mean I get it becaue you think you have some pirate gimmick you think you have some control over the game, but I know I FUCKING KNOW that you're capable of being a troll and acting like you're in control of the game as scum. I FUCKING KNOW THAT.

so you can suck it. I don't think you're town. Muffin is not fooling me again.

I told you to ask me about a particular person, and WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED WITH ME???????????????????

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:49 pm

athenas wrote:why don't you give all of your reads in order of strength?

The difference here is that I've actually made my thoughts on most people very, very clear.

Nati and I both think ye be scum, I'm not sure where Nati is at with SC at the moment but last I checked SC were in a PoE pile of possible scum and I think they're scum, we both think PFR, Yggdra and SiAm are town, he's less sure on SG and Generic-hydra but I think they're town, he thinks M&M hydra is town, I'm less sure on that.

Nati has left me mostly in charge of this game and I'm not sure where he currently stands on things, so if it's my reads alone:

SiAm, Yggdra, Generic, PFR
SG
M&M
SC
Athena

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:53 pm

It really should not be this difficult for ye to just give reads.

Yer deflecting and distracting from things by going on about stuff I do as scum

And I literally have no idea what yer talking about with the whole acting like I've never played with ye before thing. I do not remember ye being this awkward about giving reads in other games. And in fact ye DID give a reads list (through Mhork) in the only completed game I've played with ye. So.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:00 pm

Also, you gave reads lists while ye were still alive

Like

In post 1189, Pyrotechnics wrote:Stahp.

I meant that I find it interesting that I got yelled at about it (and what's humorous it I was responding to trolling), but it's not been picked up on regarding anyone else.

pedit to LB

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Our reads are: Mhork and Prohawk town. Possibly muffin and bbmolla town.

Null: whatever the fuck empircho is.

Scum: Morph, Nero (probs) maybe LB.

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:03 pm

In post 1559, Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:It really should not be this difficult for ye to just give reads.

Yer deflecting and distracting from things by going on about stuff I do as scum

And I literally have no idea what yer talking about with the whole acting like I've never played with ye before thing. I do not remember ye being this awkward about giving reads in other games. And in fact ye DID give a reads list (through Mhork) in the only completed game I've played with ye. So.

you don't know about me not being sure in games about reads? that is a complete and total lie.

and you know what, maybe I did give a reads list through Mhork in a game when I was dead and I was mediumed. It was my absolute last contribution to the game. It's not something I would have typically done because i don't do readslist before near endgame and you using when I was dead and asked to give my final thoughts against me right now is terrible.

and you know what I am going to point out things you do as scum, because you had nearly every single person fooled in that game and you're not going to fool me again. I've made my thoughts absolutely clear.

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:06 pm

okay so wait you're using day one against me?

I was fucking wrong here day one with nacho and my top two town reads got modkilled over night.

This day has sucked as far as involvement has gone. So my literal only left strong town read is probably generically purple which that should be really super obvious from my interaction with them.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:12 pm

So we're one mislynch away from XyLo and the best ye can come up with is that yer only strong town read is

probably

the Generic hydra?

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:16 pm

again, i ask you how come you're acting like you've never played with me before?

my strong town reads were fucking modkilled over night. I was wrong day one. When I'm blatantly wrong, it throws me off. I'm not a perfect mafia player and even if it's a day away from mylo, it's still day two with no scum flips. I work best with pieces of the puzzle put together. and people who need to post to help me shore up my reads are not posting.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:20 pm

lol

Vote: Athenas Fury

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:23 pm

dat omgus

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:26 pm

Ye don't even know what OMGUS means, and it can't really be called OMGUS when I've been calling ye scum since yesterday.

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:26 pm

yeah you're calling me scum because I'm not bowing down to your scum browbeating. I've watched you do this. You are scum.

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:28 pm

because if you were town, you'd recognize why I'm town and you're trying to discount the obvious. Hence scum.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:32 pm

Athena wrote:you'd recognize why I'm town

Really? Why are ye town?

Athenas Fury · Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:43 pm

If you think I would have reacted to nacho the way that I did day one if I were scum, you're absolutely insane. This may not be my best game, but this is my town game. My confidence in my ability to read people has gotten rocked lately, and it's especially so when I'm really wrong one day. but I mean like giving fake reads is one of the easiest things in the world to do, and to claim that I haven't demonstrated any reads by the way I'm talking to people and who I'm voting for is pathetic. most people haven't posted today, yesterday was full of noise, it's pretty clear what I think if you're reading my posts, so you're problem is one of your own creation for your own benefit because for the first time in my mafia career I'm an easy mislynch.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:50 pm

Athena wrote:yesterday was full of noise

Nae, it wasn't.

And I don't know why ye'd think this.

Have ye not gone back and looked at the wagon that developed on ye? Have ye not gone back and looked at who was saying what about the Nacho lynch and how that happened? Considering ye were apparently catching up on the thread for most of this day phase, I would have thought ye were paying close attention to these things.

There was _some_ noise, but full of noise? Nae.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:52 pm

Also, reach out to Nacho? lol, even if ye had reached out to Nacho in a way that looked like ye were trying to engage with him on any real level, this is something ye'd _have_ to do if ye were scum in a game where he's looking out for whether or not yer actually doing it.

Rancid Broderick Drake · Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:32 pm

In post 1569, Athenas Fury wrote:because if you were town, you'd recognize why I'm town and you're trying to discount the obvious. Hence scum.

If we be using this logic, you're scum for not recognising why Nacho was town?

I don't believe you believe this is a reasonable line of thought, and I don't believe this is meant to be anything other than manipulative.