Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 3.8

zMuffinMan (L-5):

bubbajack8 | pieguyn | Katarina LeBlanc | Mac

GoodCop_BadCop (L-3):

Varsoon | ActionDan | Saki | Jaqen Hghar | Messiah Complex | Kagami

ActionDan (L-8):

Kise

Not Voting:

dramonic, Nachomamma8, Kagami, Sakura Hana, zMuffinMan, GoodCop_BadCop

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.

The deadline is February 11, 3:30 PM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-02-11 15:30:00)

[bubbajack8]

So I messaged mod and they said my item can't be stolen. This also puts me at mislynch fodder since some people still refuse to believe I'm town.

If we're lynching GCBC just so he doesn't get to lylo I HIGHLY suggest you all change your votes to me.

VOTE: Bubba

GiF: whydoieventry? ):

[Kagami]

Wait wait wait, we can just ask gif if our items can be stolen?

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Oh and nacho is obv town. He had no reason to motivate me as scum. Unless you believe we are scum together

This is not entirely clear. If you had picked up your pm, you likely would have found that you couldn't investigate twice anyway. You are a 2-shot role who had already used one shot.

If lush were roleblocked or his investigation were tampered with, there's no reason to believe the motivator is town.

The motivation on lush would have zero or negative pro-town utility

, and the motivate on you had zero pro-town utility. The fact that you were motivated night 2 is more suspicious than not, I find it odd that nacho would not consider the possibility that his motivate shot would be completely wasted.

What if Motivator was on Lush but then flipped the investigations? Guilty = non-guilty.

Seems like something a scum motivator would do. Also Kagami, why am I not town (is self conscious)

[Kagami]

Neglected to include kat in my list. She's somewhere between town a poss scum.

^not a bad place to be.

I believe you're an oracle, but SK oracle isn't too crazy. I don't think you're mafia.

[Kagami]

Fun fact, yukari won't answer my query as to whether anything can be stolen from me.

VOTE: bubba

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Also, just a thought. Why would they make a thief and inventor same alignment? It seems extremely counter productive for town and borderline silly for scum.

I was guessing that one is scum between them!

[Kagami]

Kise's action was clearly town motivated: he gave tracking ability to a very-likely town player who was reasonably unlikely to die.

[Kagami]

I don't see why those two roles are exclusive, or even related in any way.

More importantly, why would bubba lie about his communication with yukari?

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Towncred?

[Kagami]

It seems stupid either way. Obviously we would verify the statement, but I don't see a town motivation.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Inventor gives items to town, Scum-thief takes them. That seems highly possible!

Also on the note of host interaction, I didn't want to bring it up until now but I asked him an example of what question I could ask and the response was "Is there a miller in the game?" as a question. I didn't know if I could disclose such information after talking to him so I just didn't bring it up because I was afraid of a modkill!

[Kagami]

No reason for MC to lie about his interaction with lush in that case, which was also confirmed by lush. I'm inclined to think MC is exactly what he says he is.

I'm currently liking the bubba is one-shot PGO theory, which would somewhat incriminate nacho and would explain the serene kill well.

[bubbajack8]

Wait wait wait, we can just ask gif if our items can be stolen?

I did. She said it can't be stolen (assuming such a role as thief exists.)

Fun fact, yukari won't answer my query as to whether anything can be stolen from me.

VOTE: bubba

GiF likes me more then! HA

[Jaqen Hghar]

So I messaged mod and they said my item can't be stolen. This also puts me at mislynch fodder since some people still refuse to believe I'm town.

If we're lynching GCBC just so he doesn't get to lylo I HIGHLY suggest you all change your votes to me.

VOTE: Bubba

GiF: whydoieventry? ):

GCBC is being lynched because he's scum.

[Cabd]

I asked if I have anything stealable, I was told turtles are nice.

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[Saki]

I asked if I have anything stealable, I was told turtles are nice.

They are.

Now back to your hydra, you.

[Kagami]

I asked yukari if she would have answered my question had I been more specific (by mentioning a specific item I am known to carry) and she said she would.

Bubba has moved from prob scum to prob town in kagami-land.

UNVOTE:

[Kagami]

What would put the odds on dramonic being scum, cabd?

[Messiah Complex]

You know, this might be a strange concept, but if you guys have a question about

our

ability you could always ask us.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

You guys are butts and don't want to lynch Muffin, fine.

I wanna see how Messiah Complex flips but all my reads are currently going so weird. I want to just sheep Kagami and start a new tomorrow but her reads are pretty scatterbrained (sorry ;_;) like she's flipflopping over the place that I can't really trust whose wagon she wants to ride on at the moment.

Basically my lynch options are
1. Muffin
- if he flips scum we fos on Nacho
- if he flips town THEN I can start doubting GCBC. Honestly I've been reading him as strong town every since day one with the Lush exchange and the Varsoon exchange. I find his jumping on Muffin justified and all. It's just that he claimed bulletproof for no reason at all and I can't help but doubt him just a teeny bit. Hopefully Muffin lynch would kill suspicion.
2. Messiah Complex
- this is mostly just gut suspicion from his role coupled by my role speculation with Kise
3. Varsoon
- He just kinda disappeared along the line that it's pretty suspicious. After 2 scum disappearing he just kinda shut up and let the game flow which is pretty bad. Also, he claimed for no reason vs. GCBC late in the day (both of them are shits for this btw)

I dont wanna start picking on inactive-ish villies just because other peoples' flips might reveal more action resolves and the ones I listed can maybe townread some people under suspicion!

[Kagami]

You know, this might be a strange concept, but if you guys have a question about

our

ability you could always ask us.

I assumed you had described it to the fullest of your knowledge, is that wrong?

[Messiah Complex]

So you would rather lynch someone with a role that could be used to verify people, than someone who claims to have no ability whatsoever? That seems assbackwards.

p-edit- I thought we had, but you guys seem to have misunderstood something along the way. The items we steal are flavor indicative. We can not steal functional items, such as the ones given by the inventor. The item we stole from Lush only told us who they were, which again is why I talked as much about the flavor as I did at d2 start. The targets with the items do not know they have them, nor can we do anything with the items that we take. Is that more clear?

[Messiah Complex]

I don't feel good about Bubba. The whole I asked the mod about stealing items doesn't sit well with me given the clarification I was given on the role, added to the fact that when I asked if he would answer someone in the negative about items to be stolen I was told I would not be getting an answer to my question.

[Sakura Hana]

I asked if I have anything stealable, I was told turtles are nice.

GCBC- Tensh: Bulletproof

Wouldn't she have some sort of rock or sword? (Can't really remember the fighting games are the ones i've played the least)