Newbie 1471: Italian Ice (Game Over!)

[bjc]

Don't worry half of it is hard to understand and the rest is scum. So not much will change for you.

[bjc]

The above is in response to nacho saying he hasn't read a word from kop lol

[fferyllt]

I <3 my predecessor for page 12.

[fferyllt]

Aaand on page 13 Ray Frost starts to put down some town reads. fml.

[emeraldemon]

pisskop is about what I expected, trying hard to avoid lynch, nothing obviously scummy but not enough town to make me move my vote.

Sakura Hana in 827 gives me badfeels, like she is trying to emphasize how town she is in this obvtown townblock.

The idea that all the SE's and IC are mutually townreading each other makes me nervous, but if we're getting fooled I can't figure out which one it is.

Am I allowed to be happy that ika's getting replaced by someone with better spelling?

[bjc]

Not when pisskop is still in this. Lol

[fferyllt]

Look, if you guys are eager to lynch someone now, then lynch Rob holy hell. He isn't posting crap but just enough to stay in the game. There is probably scum on my wagon.

I hate this post.

The whole post?

[fferyllt]

Also if you want my replace into newbie slot info:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28585 (Scumslot) Newbie slot.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30224 (Scumslot) Newbie slot.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31070 (Scumslot) Newbie slot.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28769 (Townslot) Newbie slot.

As an addenum:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31510 <- Wisdom was replacing Mario who lurked and replaced out who was replacing a newbie (Scumslot) Newbie Slot.

My anecdotal evidence is better than yours.

I've replaced in to precisely zero newbie scumslots, aside from 1436 where the newbie never picked up their role pm. (I would never have replaced into that slot if Cabd hadn't twisted my arm.)

[fferyllt]

Yo, so somebody ISO tier, abbott, hana and search for these names

---abbott

hana = 0 (:neutral:)
tiershift = 1 (1 match, defug?)
TS = 3 (only in read lists)

---hana

abbott 0 (yup, surprise)
tiershift = 5 (???)
TS = 16

---tiershift

abbott = 5
hana = 0


the only other person who holds a candle to this is LMB. But he's town.

analyzing Hana's posts on Tier seem to suggest me being town clears Tier. Game, set, match.

Why would you expect Sakura to comment on her predecessor by name? Or at all for that matter?

[fferyllt]

scum

BCJ
ED
ika

--
RobW
Nacho
--

town

TS
LMB
RF

Updated read list:

ED - townish
BJC - townish
RF - patronizing townie

TS - mildly scummy
Nacho - scum

ika - ? (ISO needed)
RW - ? (post or die)
LMB - ? (post or die)

wibbly wobbly much?

So you don't think 250 or so posts might provide some data for reads changes?

[fferyllt]

abbott = 5
hana = 0

Most people call me Sakura jsyk.

Also hi ffery, thank god it's someone I can read.

I'll retract my intent to hammer, because kop wanting himself dead to "clear" TS looks like it comes from a townie perspective, i still want to have more words with Nacho wrt ika and kop, and ffery needs to read up and catch up.

btw ffery your predecessor was currently voting someone who's at L-1

You couldn't read ika?

[fferyllt]

Changed my mind about LMB. Reading him as newbtown.

[pisskop]

[quote="In post 983

Why would you expect Sakura to comment on her predecessor by name? Or at all for that matter?[/quote]

I didn't. that's not the point of my post. I wanted to point out that tier and abbott/hana have had limited direct contact.
And 250 posts is enough time to change an opinion, but its a flip nonetheless. They both did it.

[fferyllt]

I didn't. that's not the point of my post. I wanted to point out that tier and abbott/hana have had limited direct contact.

Ok. Is that unique to their interactions with players? I haven't looked at that, probably won't until I've reread the game/done a few ISOs.

[pisskop]

Not when pisskop is still in this. Lol

Can you say Vendetta?

[fferyllt]

Am I allowed to be happy that ika's getting replaced by someone with better spelling?

Is that the most memorable thing to you about ika?

[emeraldemon]

His posts were kind of crazy and hard to follow. I didn't like his scumhunting, but I think that was maybe just playstyle clash. In the end he felt genuine mostly.

[fferyllt]

You're following this game pretty closely right now, it looks like. What do you think of pisskop?

[emeraldemon]

I just want to say that the first game I ever read on this site was newbie 1436 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31510
and you were amazing as scum that game, I thought you were town the whole time I was reading.

So I am a little bit afraid of you now.

[fferyllt]

Ha! that game. I got away with that because nobody knew what my town game actually looks like. I also let people assume I was as newb as they cared to think, which led to tons of underestimation.

I have other scum games, both good and bad, which are more representative of my play at MS.

Also, you didn't answer my question about pisskop.

[fferyllt]

Also, why did you wind up reading that particular game as your first?

[emeraldemon]

I honestly think scum and town are going to behave simlarly in pisskop's situation. Both are going be somewhat AtE, both are going to throw suspicion around everywhere. I said before I didn't think I could read a whole new person in a day.

If Rob W really did replace out of all of his games that might make this one a little less suspicious. But honestly I think I'd still rather lynch him (rob/pisskop) than tiershift. Maybe I think I can sort tier tomorrow.

pedit
It was just the most recently finished newbie game when I found mafiascum.net

[fferyllt]

Oh wait, I thought you were talking about http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=24994 for some reason.

In 1436 I burnt my town meta to the ground. And also proved to myself once in for all that effectively emulating your town game as scum is not optimal in terms of advancing a scum wincon.

[emeraldemon]

You're following this game pretty closely right now, it looks like.

I've been trying to keep up with all of my games more, it's hard though. I really hope someday someone meta's me and reads all four of these games, b/c I'm getting chewed out in every single one

[pisskop]

What will town learn from my lynch? This IS trying to save my arse.