The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[sirdanilot]

My gut says LYNCH TIERCE by the way. I think your list of Tierce and Ces is an excellent lynch list.

Betting our remaining scum are among Ces/Tierce/Esp/JS.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I wanted to shake things up, or at least draw the NK.

[Espeonage]

Vote: CES

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote CES

[Tierce]

I wanted to shake things up, or at least draw the NK.

That's bullshit. And still does not address my point that you have done nothing to engage with the game--and neither have you done any sort of analysis on what the reactions to your claim were. You're a good enough player that you know pointless fakeclaims as Town are destructive, and yours had no goal to it other than to draw counterclaims.

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

[Albert B. Rampage]

Tierce, you're scum with CES, aren't you.

[Tierce]

Obviously!

[Albert B. Rampage]

I knew it.

[Tierce]

So now that we're done with Stupid Wagons, Part 9 of 37, can we please lynch ABR?

Look at the progression. There is nothing wrong with wagon-hopping per se, ABR does it a lot as Town, but he's not probing at the people he's voting in any manner. In the game I linked, he even tried to bully a Town player into voting his suspect by voting him. Here? The votes are really bland, and he immediately hops off rather than doing anything resembling convincing others.

Look at this sequence:

Unvote, vote Desperado

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sirdanilot seems town don't lynch him

I'll go for Elscouta, or Desperado, or any number of other players lol

Unvote, vote Tierce

Laying down a vote like that can only come from scum.

Unvote, vote VOTE: PeregrineV

Unvote, vote Spyrex

This does not read like the thoguht process of someone who said this:

Thank you, Tierce. I was not motivated to read the game until you posted that.

I was absent in the pages leading to Aegor's lynch, missed the claim, missed the lynch, and didn't understand the flip. I came back today and instead of a simple catch-up post being made available by players who are more invested in the game, I receive accusations and attacks and threats to replace out. Tierce was the only one who was at least nice about asking me to read. Notice how I didn't sheep her CES vote, which is what I would do if I wanted to buddy her. No, I just think she's nice, and I appreciate it.

Where's the interest in the game? Regardless of whether or not he read D1, he's clearly not bothering to read D2 either, and there's no weight behind his votes.

ABR knows he has a meta for vote-hopping, but this game is missing the actual Town part of his vote-hopping, where he puts his money where his vote is.

His posts are transparent and he just post whatever comes to his mind holding nothing back. That's not the attitude of someone that is scum. Like he says, stop voting for players based on their playstyle. Now I know you all like Tierce's playstyle, and she's nice, and cunning, and appears confident in her reads, but she's the most likely scum in my opinion.

Color me puzzled: you are calling me scum because I voted you. Because I voted you with a damned good reason based on you doing

nothing

after an apparent promise to get engaged in the game. This isn't scummy, your vote on me is.

So much for shaking things up and pushing his scumreads. Tell me where ABR explains his scumread on me, I'll wait.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've no explanation to offer. You've already outted yourself.

[Tierce]

Oh, of course, how could I have missed that.

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: Espeonage

It's disappeared. But for good reason. But it's gone.

I hesitate on this and I wish it was more concrete but that ~may~ point to SSK having tracked CES and seeing something(?) that points towards town.

Esp, ABR and Desp need to go, in rapid succession.

[Espeonage]

CES, Tierce, Spy and someone is the scumteam.

[Espeonage]

Probably Sirdan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Definitely not sirdan. Spyrex is town he's just voting the wrong way.

[SpyreX]

Ok Tierce.

Look at that. LOOK AT WHAT IS THERE.

You see why I'm not budging on this?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Spyrex, he's like that in every game, town or scum.

[Tierce]

Ok Tierce.

Look at that. LOOK AT WHAT IS THERE.

You see why I'm not budging on this?

I don't care. A scumteam that goes after TIP after ABR fakeclaimed is a scumteam that was looking for soft/counterclaims. Not particularly bothered by someone who is trying to sell me and sirdanilot as scumbuddies. Snake, head, etc.

ActionDan, you have one post to explain that scumread on me.

[Espeonage]

tbh, the Spy read is entirely relational on Tierce actually flipping scum. But that's my stab at a scumteam from here. Spy and sirdan could easily be replaced with you and sirdan while retaining CES and Tierce.

For now, my pool is CES, Tierce and sirdan from most want to least want but still want.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My lynch pool is Tierce and CES

[shos]

so were you RB'd or not?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm a VT. I can't be RB'd. I claimed it at the beginning of the day, have you missed it?

[SpyreX]

Tierce am I losing my mind or do you mean sirdan?

Lets play pretend and say I was willing to move my vote. What's in it for me?

That said:

Sirdan is 100% town and I'm sad at how busy I've been that it took me this long to realize it.
JacobSavage is waaay more likely town than not now.
Scum probably have a rolecop.

I want someone who can decipher shadoweh to go a huntin. I know people say I'm hard to follow, but shit. The only one that really makes me nervous is the CES hate but SSK's 180 I'd HOPE was related to his role somehow.

[Tierce]

Tierce am I losing my mind or do you mean sirdan?

Lets play pretend and say I was willing to move my vote. What's in it for me?

That said:

Sirdan is 100% town and I'm sad at how busy I've been that it took me this long to realize it.
JacobSavage is waaay more likely town than not now.
Scum probably have a rolecop.

I want someone who can decipher shadoweh to go a huntin. I know people say I'm hard to follow, but shit. The only one that really makes me nervous is the CES hate but SSK's 180 I'd HOPE was related to his role somehow.

SSK probably tracked CES nowhere, which doesn't really say much because tracker innocents are a dime a dozen.

By "snake, head, etc." I mean ABR. Pretty sure I've said repeatedly that I think sirdanilot is Town and wouldn't shed a tear if we lynched him and he flipped Innocent Child, so etc..

Regarding Jacob, I agree. I was thinking yesterday that one of {ABR, Jacob} had to be scum, but SSK flipping tracker pretty clearly means that one extra protection that doesn't alter the lynch threshold + Aegor's role makes sense as Town in a game that starts at evens, while ABR being fakeclaiming scum slots in nicely with the silly amount of investigative roles.

I still want to do the Shadoweh hunt, ended up not doing it overNight.

[SpyreX]

That was more a general thing. But I have to make sure we stay on the same page:

Sirdan isn't dying. You should know why.

But come on butter my bread. You know what I want.