The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[Elscouta]

Fake claiming cop under lynch pressure, then retracting it after messing it up counts as very severe evidence, yes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're going to be disappointed if you're town. Which I'm believing less and less right now.

[Tierce]

Yes i am now on my computer. Will be for the next 2 hours.

Then can you explain why your posts today have been a rehash of stuff that doesn't require analysis, when you've had that opportunity?

sirdanilot: you being bigoted and privileged has nothing to do with your game skill. Unfortunately, the latter is pretty deplorable and you're using the former to justify scumreading me after I voted you at deadline. Are you going to call everyone who agreed with me on that one or who thinks your posts are painful scum? Because that kind of attitude is a symptom of the kind of player you are: not a good one.

And yet I am not pursuing a policy lynch on you. You can stop flailing around like a headless chicken. If you're not a distraction, there is no need to remove you, so stop being a distraction and you don't need to worry about getting lynched.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Tierce, why are you still voting for me if you're town?

[Tierce]

Notice how Tierce, who sucks the joy out of anyone's soul and is probably scum, does not vote Esp, who is scum and should have died three game days ago.

I suspect that the person who sucks the joy out of everyone's soul in this game is looking you in the mirror.

Espeonage is not dying before the big fish. Don't care.

[Elscouta]

Yes i am now on my computer. Will be for the next 2 hours.

Then can you explain why your posts today have been a rehash of stuff that doesn't require analysis, when you've had that opportunity?

Unsure I understand your comment.

I'm basically rehashing content on ABR because i think he is the lynch today, yes. I think i commented on the n1 majiffy affair, because i felt it was important. I commented on some attacks / opinions that i felt were wrong, but I didn't feel it necessary to add "new" analysis (mostly because I have none, and because I'm happy with where my vote is)

[Albert B. Rampage]

This is ridiculous.

I don't have to listen to any of you.

Unvote, vote Elscouta

[Tierce]

Tierce, why are you still voting for me if you're town?

Because you're scum. You know better than to do what you did as Town, and you haven't acknowledged any of my earlier points. You know that the way to make me believe you is to work with and engage me, but instead you ignore me and prefer to go with... sirdanilot, the most erratic player in this game? Nope. It's rafters for you.

[Tierce]

Engh.

Whatever. Sleeping on this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Tierce, why are you still voting for me if you're town?

Because you're scum. You know better than to do what you did as Town

NO I DON'T. You were accusing me from the left field and I was fed up with you and fakeclaimed as TOWN. I don't share any affinity with sirdan, AT ALL, but he's right about you sucking the joy out of this game. I was tired of the way you were playing and self-sabotaged in retaliation. MY BAD.

NOW WAKE UP if you're town. STOP VOTING FOR ME.

[shos]

ABR. you're using way too much AtE in attempt to convince people that you're town. your acts, if town, were supremely foolish.

I have more reasons to think that you are scum, but that is involved with my own role, so I will not discuss them as of yet.
The fact that scum did not kill you in TWO NIGHTS after claiming cop means a lot to me. the fact that you claimed to have been roleblocked, TWICE, does as well.

you're scum.

[ActionDan]

ok shos it's apparent you've been soft claiming jailkeeper for about all this game day now.

[shos]

it might be. but I said no such thing let scum wifom themselves.

[shos]

also, why the rolefish?

[shos]

oh RIIIIIITE you're scum too, hah

[Elscouta]

I would still like you to answer my #1586, shos. And I would like to hear the full reasoning about why you decided to Jailkeep ABR n2.

You have been softclaiming for pages, and used this softclaim to defend/accuse multiple people. If you are a JK, scum are already aware of this.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Those questions don't seem superrelevant if he gets nightkilled, so give the scum a Night to kill him before looking into this angle?

[sirdanilot]

Yes i am now on my computer. Will be for the next 2 hours.

Then can you explain why your posts today have been a rehash of stuff that doesn't require analysis, when you've had that opportunity?

sirdanilot: you being bigoted and privileged has nothing to do with your game skill. Unfortunately, the latter is pretty deplorable and you're using the former to justify scumreading me after I voted you at deadline. Are you going to call everyone who agreed with me on that one or who thinks your posts are painful scum? Because that kind of attitude is a symptom of the kind of player you are: not a good one.

And yet I am not pursuing a policy lynch on you. You can stop flailing around like a headless chicken. If you're not a distraction, there is no need to remove you, so stop being a distraction and you don't need to worry about getting lynched.

Tierce do you feed on the souls and joys of other people?
The fact that I am, according to you, a bad player, is also something you are abusing for your own gain. How is that pro-town behaviour?

You know that the way to make me believe you is to work with and engage me, but instead you ignore me and prefer to go with... sirdanilot, the most erratic player in this game? Nope. It's rafters for you.

Evidence Tierce is scum abusing her hate towards me, the privileged male bad player, for her own gain.

but he's right about you sucking the joy out of this game.

THANK YOU

ABR. you're using way too much AtE in attempt to convince people that you're town. your acts, if town, were supremely foolish.

I have more reasons to think that you are scum, but that is involved with my own role, so I will not discuss them as of yet.
The fact that scum did not kill you in TWO NIGHTS after claiming cop means a lot to me. the fact that you claimed to have been roleblocked, TWICE, does as well.

CRINGEWORTHY TERRIBAD SOFTCLAIM DETECTED AAAAAAAAARGH

[Elscouta]

@CES: Hmm. Unsure. We have been saying too many times "oh we will lynch him later, let's give scum time to NK him". If shos has been softclaiming to defend Shadoweh and is now using it to put the nail into ABR coffin, it is best to know now.

I don't see the point for a town JK to softclaim that hard, and then refuse to explain the scummy parts of his behaviour. If shos is not JK, he is probably scum.

[ActionDan]

Those questions don't seem superrelevant if he gets nightkilled, so give the scum a Night to kill him before looking into this angle?

Sure.

One can only hope.

[Plum]

Just a reminder:

• 14. Have fun. Remember that everyone playing is actually a real person.
  Treat every user with a basic level of respect.

[PeregrineV]

vc 4.1A (unofficial)
Tierce - 1 -
Albert B. Rampage - 6 - Cogito Ergo Sum, Tierce, shos, Desperado, Elscouta, JacobSavage
Cogito Ergo Sum - 1 - Espeonage
Espeonage - 3 - SpyreX, ActionDan, sirdanilot
Elscouta - 1- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting (1): PeregrineV

Not for an ABR lynch today. Maybe next week, if nothing better can be found, but not right now.

[shos]

@elscouta:
I ignored 1586 on purpose, and will keep ignoring anything people might say about me being JK. there's a purpose behind all this.

if I ever come up as a lynch candidate, I will fully disclose everything and stuff, and explain everything; but not before then.

So far, my night actions, in accordance to the supposed fakeclaim, make absolutely no sense for ABR town, the way I see it.

[sirdanilot]

Peregrine will you join me in an Esp lynch, pretty please? You're in the good camp aren't ya ?!

[PeregrineV]

2. JacobSavage - Postcount: 6. I honestly didn't realize he'd posted before Scummy Butt: The Buttening. Not really much to go on, instead of explaining townreads please explain which of your fourteen 'scumreads' you think is the scummiest and why, possibly with a vote even, which you are not doing and should.
4.

Aegor

- I didn't like post 141 as an entry post, it felt like throwing a bunch of things out to see what sticks, plus what I said earlier about his views on Esp. Also not sure what brachylogy means, but if it means empty voting you're basically voting ABR for being ABR, he always does that as far as I've seen? I don't think you'd know that though. Conversation with Sirdan is sensical but you haven't actually mentioned anything about who you think is scum, so not really much to go on. Please explain which of the sixteen people who isn't yourself or ABR you also think are scummy and why. I'm preparing to copy/paste saying that alot!
5.

Natirasha

- I really want to like your posts but I think it's because you're posting like ActionDan in a non-caring kind of way. You're not Dan thhough so it's weird. I expected you to be more.. cheerful I guess? You were more wordy in the quicktopic, I think. I'm not really sure what I want you to do different to be honest, I just don't want to think of you as scum.
7.

MafiaSSK

- Last post: four days ago. Considering there wasn't really any meat to sink into at the time, there's not really much to go on here. Please follow up on question aimed at chamber, and answer if you still think

Nat

and Esp are scummy.

SSK

was quiet to the point of me not expecting him to reply to posts in the QT, and he's kind of a lurker in general, so it's hard to get a read either way.
9. Espeonage - I actually thought the whole VT on the scene thing was a good reaction test way to start off at first but the overblown NOW YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD SIRDAN YOU ARE THE SCUMS tunnel is just.. bad.

@sirdan's posting. Look at how he demands to know everything, town definitely wants information yes, but scum need it. It's like how White shouldn't lose tempo because they have the foot up on black in chess.

Nonsensical is probably a better word, and crazy paranoid. "Town would do this, but scum need to do it MORE, so sirdan spamming up the thread demanding to know everything means he's super scummy!" What I really want you to do is stop tunneling Sirdan and make a scum read that isn't based on The Most Easy to Hate Dude making posts at you.
11. Albert B. Rampage - Post count: 6. I don't know if there's a difference between ABR's town and scum games, but I'm already remembering why my eyes keep glazing over as I reread this game. Uhm, you said you would explain one of your votes if people picked one, and the only one person have shown interest in in the sirdan vote, so explain?
13. Desperado - Post count: 5. Please kill me. Wow, are you still voting me? I know I wanted to die while we were buddies, but I think you'll find I was equally suicidal in the game you were half-scum in too. If you're going to use meta then maybe you should use more then one game. You have plenty of my posts to look at and tell me if you still think I'm scum at least. also question, do you think sirdan is town or scum because when I tell someone I have a problem with their posts in your tone, it usually means I'm suspicious of them, but it's not clear in the way you're asking.
15. Elscouta - didn't like entry post of hopping onto the for some reason growing Sirdan wagon. Looking at his later posts though I'd have to say he's at least taking it seriously? Like, the opposite of how I feel about Esp's tunnelrageback. Still needs more scumspects who could actually be scum (tm)
16. PeregrineV - brain asdfghkjing why are you voting me and stop it reads as peregrinev
17.

TheIrishPope

(replacing xRECKONERx) - is a dude that's here

its hurting to think but I think I think Esp is the worst right now? Really what I'm remembering is that the game still practically hasn't started because half the people still haven't posted things. PS TIP if you seriously would have vigged someone who is obvtown instead of any of the above excluding yourself yyou would deserve to have the shit kicked out of you.

##Unvote
##Vote: Espironage

Tierce, I think you will find I was never actually a voyeuristic old man, I was always a sexy fiery temptress hiding in an old man's clothes. Also I'd have to say I'm as far opposite to being a voyeur as possible. Just pretend you can't read him and remember he's at least trying to help, in his own.. way. I'd stop posting if I were him too, wondering if I were still alive? (Or I'd start swearing at the 'vig' I supose if I was in the mood)
PPS i will take this as your admittance that i was in fact the bestest girl

I'm at least ready to make a no-chance-in-hell pact on not voting Tierce,

chamber

, Actshun Dan, sirdanylyots (who people keep calling Dan, which is messing me up, there are two Dans in this game say their full names plz) and shos. I don't really have a read on Spyrex or CES other then 'is Spyrex' and 'is CES' but I don't really want to lynch either of them either. That still leaves.. a pretty decent list of people now that I look at it. Will look at actual list in next post since people are posting and I don't want to pass out first