Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[ActionDan]

Oh I forgot gooner is scum too

[ActionDan]

In fact

UNVOTE:
VOTE: gooner

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 2.3

[9] Kagami (Angry Frat Bros, Venmar, mastin2, Metal Sonic, Cephrir, Kazekirimaru, macmollie, pieguyn, Aegor)
[1] Angry Frat BROs (Kagami)
[1] Gooner (ActionDan)

[7] Not Voting (Gooner, Cabd, MafiaSSK, orcinus_theoriginal, sangres, Skullduggery, zMuffinMan)

With 18 alive, it is 10 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-24 17:00:00)

[Metal Sonic]

Oh I forgot gooner is scum too

in our neighborhood qt we also discussed this possibility. yes, we have come to this conclusion as well.

but only 1 lynch per day, so stick with the program

[Metal Sonic]

i know that i put kagami as likely town yesterday

but we did some neighbourhood talk and i changed my opinion, especiallyy with those newer posts by kagami today were really bad


Tell me, Kagami, are you new here?

[Venmar]

Oh I forgot gooner is scum too

in our neighborhood qt we also discussed this possibility. yes, we have come to this conclusion as well

By that you mean AP talking to himself?

[zMuffinMan]

can someone unvote

coz even if kagami is scum, i'd prefer this day didn't end so quickly

i really don't like the wagon composition after mastin but eh

[zMuffinMan]

I figured there had to be some enabling or activation mechanism, but apparently there either isn't or someone is terrible at picking up crumbs.

also the above line sort of fits with the below line

Unfortunately nothing interesting happened to me tonight

though whether this actually means anything re: kagami, i dunno. it could have just been planning for the eventual fake claim

[sangres]

What's this about not being able to vote today?

And what are your thoughts on the neighborhoods?

And What do you think of MafiaSSK?

[zMuffinMan]

bork trolling me. i think i can vote

i dunno - i'm not particularly interested in them and they'll sort themselves out. i'm also not going to play guessing games about how many scum is in each. and i also think flandre including your entire neighbourhood in that one post

could

have been a coincidence (aegor vs skull was a thing a lot of people were commenting on, brian was a topic of conversation early game, and you + mollie had some back and forth just prior to that post i believe)

really, really bad - also dunno why his scum read on me evaporated

[ActionDan]

gooner/mafiassk.

either is fine

[Angry Frat BROs]

Oh I forgot gooner is scum too

in our neighborhood qt we also discussed this possibility. yes, we have come to this conclusion as well

By that you mean AP talking to himself?

There is no proof.

[sangres]

Why is gooner scum, Dan?

[Angry Frat BROs]

I'd like the BG to claim his target, also.

This. Pieguy is free to change up his target every night but there is zero good reason for him not to audit himself for the sake of everyone.\

I also see you have a taste for dramatic irony

I'm glad I can bore you in more ways than one.
But I wanna keep you around cause I think you are pretty obviously town this game.

also i may not be able to vote today. i dunno. need to check with bork

Cut the foreplay and get to the good stuff.

I'll agree that Gooner is somebody I don't feel town from. I hate to call it a gut read but it kind of is. Specifically though his whole "AFB likely SK slipped" and then backpedaling into "WELL its only relevant if there IS an SK" when I OMGUS'd him about it felt like lolscum.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Good news BRO, you don't have to give me your read on Varsoon anymore.

WOOHOO LESS READING.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I kinda feel two scum in {pieguyn, mastin2, zMuffinMan} but it's a gut instinct more than anything. But, I feel like part of the wagon on mastin2 is a burden of proficiency wagon.

^ All of these will probably flip town.

I feel like there's one scum in {Aegor, Skullduggery}

Both of these will probably flip town.

I'm liking orcinus_theoriginal's hated claim.

hmmmmmmm

So, I'm thinking Kazekirimaru is kinda town in regards where he's asking people why their reads disagree with them and opening himself up to different ideas.

I like Brian Skies catch up posts, they felt genuine, along with his reaction to the flashwagon.

The macmollie/sangres interaction felt like a TvT to me.

Hmmmmmm

Eh, good chance of 1 scum/0 scum in those structure groups. Would be too obvious if no scum flipped across 2 structure groups.

Orc-town doesn't not make sense based on the liking the hated claim. Think about us with trollie's PGO claim in AG.

Rest of this is good analysis.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Not scum AFB, sorries, or are claiming scum flavor-cop?

Why would you of either alignment post this when you know we have 2 neighbors who can come in and say that we've wanted you lynched from within N1 (i.e., you're "lol flavor cop" assertion would be made invalid immediately?)

Also, why would you assert flavor cop over role cop?

This doesn't make sense from either-alignment you. It's just outright bad play.

[Angry Frat BROs]

That's me. Now factor Nacho in. good luck.

You run the "hide a bit behind Nacho" play and let Nacho carry you to LyLo?

btw I don't have a read on you since I haven't read like 75% of this game. I'm just poking in ^_^

[Angry Frat BROs]

^ Kagami is claiming VT but thinks that claiming a main character makes her obvtown.

I still think its a scummy play/assumption to be making.

The mafia flavor cop accusation is what gets me though- like Kagami thinks that we realized she has an obviously town claim and decided to push her because of that??

[sangres]

That's me. Now factor Nacho in. good luck.

You run the "hide a bit behind Nacho" play and let Nacho carry you to LyLo?

btw I don't have a read on you since I haven't read like 75% of this game. I'm just poking in ^_^

For your speculation to work, I'd have to be, you know, hiding.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Why would Flandre, in an act of survivalism, add momentum to a counter-wagon on his own partner when he could have just as easily joined the equally viable Metal Sonic, Muffin, or Mastin wagons?

Distancing by "trying" to counter wagon a partner that wouldn't get lynched to buy them towncred?

Something AP brought up during the night was how weirdly easy it was to catch Flandre. I said it implied a scum team that's probably bussing itself into the ground (sort of like what happened in the last Xeno with the day 1 Rach lynch over the easily mislynchable Andy). (Also note that this is with me having read through page 17 with some ISOs as well)

[Angry Frat BROs]

^

Kagami is claiming VT but thinks that claiming a main character makes her obvtown.

I still think its a scummy play/assumption to be making.

The mafia flavor cop accusation is what gets me though- like Kagami thinks that we realized she has an obviously town claim and decided to push her because of that??

lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

not enough l's and o's

[Angry Frat BROs]

That's me. Now factor Nacho in. good luck.

You run the "hide a bit behind Nacho" play and let Nacho carry you to LyLo?

btw I don't have a read on you since I haven't read like 75% of this game. I'm just poking in ^_^

For your speculation to work, I'd have to be, you know, hiding.

I'm just throwing ideas around

I have no idea what the you::Nacho ratio is.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Basically, my hope here is that someone will fly in and confirm me town. If someone can't do that, then I question bork's sanity in choosing roles.

Uh...

I'd question his sanity if this

weren't

the case. Putting flavor-ICs into a game is a shitty-as-fuck way to do things.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Flavor seems to be relevant to role in the other xeno games.

Yeah, but then bork gives scum town fake claims that fit their role.

Like in Xenoblade I was a scum-JK but my fakeclaim was a town-JK that still had solid flavor backing.