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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:41 pm

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In post 2249, Kazekirimaru wrote:Nah. Do or die. Caught SK is dead SK. I'd not expect otherwise.
when there are a few players here who agree with the leashing of the sk philo? nah

he would play it as a vig and if caught then let himself be leashed I would think. that is how I would play it

so I find this convo interesting cos neither you nor skull are going with that mastina could possibly be grpscum
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:44 pm

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VOTE: sangres
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:48 pm

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In post 2250, macmollie wrote: when there are a few players here who agree with the leashing of the sk philo? nah

he would play it as a vig and if caught then let himself be leashed I would think. that is how I would play it

so I find this convo interesting cos neither you nor skull are going with that mastina could possibly be grpscum
General disagreements here.

But yeah. I just haven't gotten the feeling of groupscum Mastin. Plus I don't think she'd be the type to be leashed. I mean, that seems sort of degrading - and I take Mastin as the sort with a certain amount of pride.
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:49 pm

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I'm totally being inconsistent pronoun-wise and I thoroughly apologize. Force of habit, etc.
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:51 pm

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In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres
WTF?
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:52 pm

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In post 2252, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 2250, macmollie wrote: when there are a few players here who agree with the leashing of the sk philo? nah

he would play it as a vig and if caught then let himself be leashed I would think. that is how I would play it

so I find this convo interesting cos neither you nor skull are going with that mastina could possibly be grpscum
General disagreements here.

But yeah. I just haven't gotten the feeling of groupscum Mastin. Plus I don't think she'd be the type to be leashed. I mean, that seems sort of degrading - and I take Mastin as the sort with a certain amount of pride.
why would that be degrading? cos I really don't get that
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:53 pm

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In post 2254, Aegor wrote:
In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres
WTF?
quick ISO, trying to get back into the game

i havne' tbeen seeing a lot of things that I expect from fery
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:53 pm

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In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres
what are you doing
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:59 pm

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ITS BEEN 5 MINUTES ORCI CAN YOU PLZ ANSWER THIS COS I AM CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:01 pm

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In post 2256, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 2254, Aegor wrote:
In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres
WTF?
quick ISO, trying to get back into the game

i havne' tbeen seeing a lot of things that I expect from fery
you have got to be kidding me. this is the towniest fery that I have seen on site so far if I let go of the sk paranoia

like wat do you think you should be seeing but aren't
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:03 pm

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In post 2256, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 2254, Aegor wrote:
In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres
WTF?
quick ISO, trying to get back into the game

i havne' tbeen seeing a lot of things that I expect from fery
If you can't find town-me in this game, then you will never, ever EVER find town-me in any game.

I'm not being even slightly ambiguous.
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:03 pm

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like this is the fery I always hope to encounter in games and she did not need to put me down in order to get there. nachos' vote was uber town
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:04 pm

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*self vote
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:30 pm

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In post 2230, zMuffinMan wrote:where did that happen in this game
Most of his posting?
In post 2231, Kazekirimaru wrote:You realize your vote is still on MS, right?
Yeah?
Uhh...how does this make you town?
It doesn't. It makes me scum. (Geez, guys. I've made a better case for me being scum than everyone else combined, and I did it in less than five minutes. Slackers. :P) It also makes SSK town.
In post 2232, sangres wrote:Mastin, it fails for me right there at mindset. I felt like the "I'll always investigate ffery" comment was meant to mollify me. He's talking about a ffery/nacho hydra and he's worried about
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...Yeah? I mean. You seem to think that this is strange. It's actually pretty damn solid play. Like, I'd have tracked AFB despite the fact that they were a realistic nightkill, just to get a better read on them. I can totally see SSK investigating you, not so much as a second thinking about you being nightkilled.
In post 2234, Skullduggery wrote:You've also admitted that your Town-read of SSK is based on personal experience, meta, gut, and other factors that can't be quantified. You're a well-respected player and your words do carry a lot of weight, but is it reasonable for you to expect us to believe your word over the provable actions that have happened in the game -- especially when your alignment is still such a big question?
Yep! You should listen to that list of reasons I'm defending SSK. When it comes to read off of play versus read off of role...nine times out of ten, I'm going for the read off of play. If this were a cop guilty, I
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lynch SSK, in spite of being a solid 80-90% sure the cop was lying. It isn't--it's much, MUCH weaker. There are many possible explanations.
Why is this such an unlikely possibility?
Because the entire reason for suspecting SSK is him being at sangres N1, and pie dieing N2 as a 1x-BP Bodyguard, and people making the logical deduction that pie's BP was used N1 protecting sangres and that one of the others visiting sangres was killing. If that's not true, then there's no reason for SSK to be scum at all. Thinking he's scum-tracking-sangres is just, well, off.
In post 2235, Skullduggery wrote:Interestingly, super-thorough Mastin chose not to respond to this particular point.
Because I already did, elsewhere. No, I don't know which of the kills was performed by the serial killer. But I do know that N1, there were three targets and none of them were town-oriented kill targets. I know that N2, two of the three possible kill targets were not town-oriented kills, and the third is an unknown, which is still far, FAR more likely than not
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In post 2237, Venmar wrote:I wish someone would answer me, whats going on because i'm a lazy pig who kind of doesn't want to read so many pages.
The town's mislynching SSK, and people are making the hilariously-bad accusation that I'm THE SK.
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'Cause that was me on D2. You couldn't feel my presence because there was no presence to be felt. As for today, there's nothing I can say that will answer. You either see me as town or don't. My beat isn't off; it's the rest of the town pushing SSK.
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:40 pm

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In post 2263, mastin2 wrote:...Yeah? I mean. You seem to think that this is strange. It's actually pretty damn solid play. Like, I'd have tracked AFB despite the fact that they were a realistic nightkill, just to get a better read on them. I can totally see SSK investigating you, not so much as a second thinking about you being nightkilled.
That wasn't my point.
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:01 pm

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Okay so why are people assuming the existance of a SK to begin with?
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:03 pm

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In post 2265, Venmar wrote:Okay so why are people assuming the existance of a SK to begin with?
Because of two kills N2, neither of which remotely look like scumhunting.
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:12 pm

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mafiassk wrote:I noted you were more lurky than usual and so I voted you. That was pretty much why I thought you were scum. It wasn't strong and it was sorta hypocritical.
hahahaha no

keep your story straight

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In post 1027, MafiaSSK wrote:No the IC claim is just fake. That's just bad.

VOTE: Muffin
In post 1141, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1109, zMuffinMan wrote:i'm not going to be lynched this game
By the way, Muffin's still scum, guys. Just thought I'd say so because the wagon only has 2 votes and it's disappointing.
In post 1362, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1348, zMuffinMan wrote:mastin, venmar, skull, AFB, orcinus, AD, varsoon
aegor, mollie, sangres
flandre, kaze
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to be lynched D4 list: pieguy

IF THERE IS A GOD, THESE PEOPLE WILL BE VIGGED list: METAL SONIC, MAFIASSK (in that order)
(MS because even if he isn't scum, he has a secret scum win con and mafiassk because he's probably town but mafiassk)
So I know that my vote has stayed on Muffin for the majority of the game, but he is such obv scum! Just look at this post!
Vague reads? Check.
Buddying (with pieguy? Check.
Wanting to vig me even though he thinks I'm town?

Seriously. Just look and tell me you don't want to vote Muffinz.
In post 1378, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1365, sangres wrote:
In post 1362, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1348, zMuffinMan wrote:mastin, venmar, skull, AFB, orcinus, AD, varsoon
aegor, mollie, sangres
flandre, kaze
brian-slot
cephrir
cabd

to be lynched D4 list: pieguy

IF THERE IS A GOD, THESE PEOPLE WILL BE VIGGED list: METAL SONIC, MAFIASSK (in that order)
(MS because even if he isn't scum, he has a secret scum win con and mafiassk because he's probably town but mafiassk)
So I know that my vote has stayed on Muffin for the majority of the game, but he is such obv scum! Just look at this post!
Vague reads? Check.
Buddying (with pieguy? Check.
Wanting to vig me even though he thinks I'm town?

Seriously. Just look and tell me you don't want to vote Muffinz.
This post really sucks SSK. Especially the buddying pieguy comment. zmuffin's trajectory on pieguy is far from buddying.
Blah blah trajectory blah blah. What a load of crap it is. It all has to start from somewhere right? Why not this post? Why can't the start be small? Wouldn't that in fact be an even smarter method for scum to post with?

these are not the posts of someone who is voting someone else for lurking and these are not the posts of someone who thinks their suspicion is weak
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:14 pm

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Random thought: on day two, at least one person said that they thought Varsoon was not a mafia kill. I need to look back and see who said this and/or who agreed with it, since they have a significantly higher chance of being scum.
In post 2264, sangres wrote:
In post 2263, mastin2 wrote:...Yeah? I mean. You seem to think that this is strange. It's actually pretty damn solid play. Like, I'd have tracked AFB despite the fact that they were a realistic nightkill, just to get a better read on them. I can totally see SSK investigating you, not so much as a second thinking about you being nightkilled.
That wasn't my point.
Then you're gonna have to tell me what was, since I just gave you a mindset, and you asked for a mindset.
In post 2266, sangres wrote:
In post 2265, Venmar wrote:Okay so why are people assuming the existance of a SK to begin with?
Because of two kills N2, neither of which remotely look like scumhunting.
(Quoting this as one more reason Skull's post was BS, by the way. :P)
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:15 pm

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also, none of those explain where your read on me went, mafiassk, coz you were really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really fucking confident about it D1 and i don't think a single night phase after a scum lynch that i wasn't on and even spoke out against was going to change your mind about me
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:16 pm

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mastin i dare you to fucking read what mafiassk wrote about me D1 and tell me you think what he's saying is genuine or makes sense here
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:28 pm

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In post 2268, mastin2 wrote:Then you're gonna have to tell me what was, since I just gave you a mindset, and you asked for a mindset.
I am by no stretch of the imagination the more difficult head of this hydra to read.
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:35 pm

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VOTE: Mastin

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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:39 pm

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mastin wrote:Random thought: on day two, at least one person said that they thought Varsoon was not a mafia kill. I need to look back and see who said this and/or who agreed with it, since they have a significantly higher chance of being scum
also without checking i believe that was sangres or cabd? i remember it being one of them that first brought it up i think
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:44 pm

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Pieguy was a bodyguard, chances are he blocked a bigger value target, so I wouldn't count him as a non-scumhunting death.

I would entertain the idea of a vig, but when people start heaving the idea of a SK around I start to get worried.

We should just stick to a MS lynch.
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