Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 4.1

[3] Skullduggery (sangres, ActionDan, zMuffinMan)
[1] Aegor (Angry Frat BROs)
[1] Gooner (pirate mollie)
[1] mastin2 (mastin2)
[1] pirate mollie (Gooner)
[1] zMuffinMan (Skullduggery)

[5] Not Voting (Aegor, Kazekirimaru, Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal, Venmar)

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-03-06 08:15:00)

[ActionDan]

I am liking Skull's posts more and more. Will review claims made therein.

really because post 2472 was terrible.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie is a player I should be townreading. I really should be townreading her. But...I'm not. I don't know why I'm not. I just...kinda...don't feel anything with her. On the plus side, that also means I'm not feeling anything scum from her, either. But basically...she's a null. She shouldn't be a null. She really, REALLY shouldn't be a null, but. She is. And I can't shake that. I can't fake a read one way or the other on her. I can't force myself to make up my mind. I just...can't.

you really shouldn't be reading me as null I have reached out to you like 9 billion times and you are doing the exact same thing you did in chain of command, you are avoiding getting intimate with me like the fucking plague. I am fairly CERTAIN you are not grpscum cos you wouldn't retardedly defend a scummate like you did ssk but there is something off about you mastina!

[Angry Frat BROs]

Scummies in the front seat

Dummies in the back seat

Gotta make my mind up

Which one do I vooooOoooOote?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Skull, you do realize that in exactly zero of those quotes did zMuffin point out that SSKs actions made sense. Like the exact opposite actually happened.

And it wasnt just your rolecop prediction that makes that post suspicious.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Is it really just skull/aegor? Aegor maf, skull sk?

[pirate mollie]

Take a look at mollie's voting record. Last vote on FS. Earlier vote on Kagami. No vote on MafiaSSK.

Now consider the interaction between mollie and the known scum in her ISO. And mollie's general contribution to this game. Someone please explain the town mindset here.


My Kaze on case is long and well-established.

yours and gooner's push is pretty terrible and based on some dumb retarded idea you have about poe

FUCK YOUR POE YOU ARE WRONG VERY WRONG AND EVEN MORE WRONG THAN THAT

AND, I told you why my participation is spotty AND YET YOU ARE ACTING AS IF I DIDN'T SAY A THING. I have a town mindset cos gee I dunno I am town how about you explain the scum mindset? I bet you can't cos you are reaching for the moon.

VOTE: aegor

^ LYNCH THIS

[ActionDan]

He feels weird.

Cease this begging for further inquiry at once young man! Because it annoys me! Roar!

If I don't have townreads on orcinus and Metal Sonic by page 10 we should lynch them, just a heads up.

explain plz

also why SSK?

I've seen both of those players be town and in all cases they have struck me as very obviously town.
Also, NY 167.

I voted SSK because a wise man did before me.

huh. is it bc of his comment about zmuffin flipping super-saint? scum are more aware of super-saints and in this case it wouldn't even affect him. so I'm inclined to agree that post feels off

vote: Brian

what are your thoughts on sangres so far?

I like this post!

skull is just a good lynch in any case.

associations from Cephir favor it. favors Kaze lynch. favors Orc lynch.

@cut.

[pirate mollie]

If we want to lynch with a neighborhood, why would we pick the one with more players? Unless there are independently strong scumreads within it, which does not appear to be the case.

Well there is likely 1 mafia and 1 SK left, so you tell me where you think those are divided up among the 3:5:5 still alive.

I think there is one maf in my neighborhood and I think it is mollie. I have not actually played with an SK before so that will be more difficult until I do some more research on theory and other games with competent SKs.

^scum

[pirate mollie]

You can trust us on that read and get voting Skull.

I do want to trust you, though. Soyeah, there's that, too.

SSK tracked us on N1, so therefore we weren't the scum NK target. That means that improbable as it sounds Varsoon was the NK target.

And that points to Skull.

Not that I disagree with Skull being scum, but you're ignoring the possibility of scum killing pie and the serial killer taking out Varsoon.

(Also, AP, pronoun trouble. She. SHE. Not he. Habits die hard, I know.)

I think the scum in our neighborhood are either Skull or Aegor.

I guess I do, and I also lean towards Skull.

her interactions with the Flandre wagon AND MafiaSSK in general would be going for broke if she IS scum.

(AP, you, uh...kinda should know better than this. Yes, I DO go for broke as scum. I'm not groupscum because of the Cephrir read, but if Cephrir had been town, you darn-well know I would do this as scum for Flandre and SSK.)

Is matin claiming scum? I cant even tell anymore.

Quite frankly, it'd take a cop innocent on me for me

not

to be scum. >_<

No joke. So dont even worry about this.

Alright.


At this point, I guess that my top candidates for scum would be Skull or Aegor,
And that my top candidates for serial killer would be (approximately most-least) Kaze, (the other of the two above), Metal Sonic, or Venmar.

But I don't know.

you have 5 hours to start interacting with me

[mastin2]

you are doing the exact same thing you did in chain of command, you are avoiding getting intimate with me like the fucking plague.

Uh, I got plenty-intimate with you in chain of command? My whole interaction with you on D1 was meant to 'bridge' the gap between us.

Is it really just skull/aegor? Aegor maf, skull sk?

Could very well be.

VOTE: Aegor.

[pirate mollie]

Now consider the interaction between mollie and the known scum in her ISO. And mollie's general contribution to this game. Someone please explain the town mindset here.

IDK, I think mollie's poor voting record most likely comes from town who doesn't know what its doing than scum intentionally avoiding bussing.

I find it funny that you are trying to point to a lack of town motivation here (when its just derp-motivated) instead of arguing that is just likely scum-motivated.

I AM NOT FUCKING DERP.

[mastin2]

you have 5 hours to start interacting with me

Just took action, and it's inter. Happy?

[pirate mollie]

you are doing the exact same thing you did in chain of command, you are avoiding getting intimate with me like the fucking plague.

Uh, I got plenty-intimate with you in chain of command? My whole interaction with you on D1 was meant to 'bridge' the gap between us.

Is it really just skull/aegor? Aegor maf, skull sk?

Could very well be.

VOTE: Aegor.

you most certainly did NOT get intimate with me in chain, you avoided the crap out of me and when you did respond the embrace was chilly same as here

[Angry Frat BROs]

Ilu mollie.

But gooner is a townie for his post today. Or at least not mafia. Sk plausible.

Actually Skull SK makes little sense unless ninja. Ssk would have outed her on d3 for sure.

[mastin2]

you most certainly did NOT get intimate with me in chain, you avoided the crap out of me and when you did respond the embrace was chilly same as here

Not by my memory?

Actually Skull SK makes little sense unless ninja. Ssk would have outed her on d3 for sure.

Derp, I knew that.

Still, could be scum. Whadda ya think of Aegor-SK, then? Or is Skull town and Aegor scum? Aegor town and Skull-scum?

[pirate mollie]

you have 5 hours to start interacting with me

Just took action, and it's inter. Happy?

somewhat. I just noticed kaze asking every1 if they had a night action that failed in skull's post that post reeked and makes me not like kaze

I STILL say muffina's incessant trolling is town the only thing that gives me pause is how he is playing up to sangres who are just gobbling it up. I am not entirely free of suspecting that danny and sangres are actually an sk faction or something I asked them about it in our neighborhood I need to go back and look at what they said but I think it was nacho who was reading danny as town but I am not sure how much I trust that danny is really really good at playing scum he isn't afraid to get cosy

[mastin2]

I STILL say muffina's incessant trolling is town the only thing that gives me pause is how he is playing up to sangres who are just gobbling it up. I am not entirely free of suspecting that danny and sangres are actually an sk faction or something I asked them about it in our neighborhood I need to go back and look at what they said but I think it was nacho who was reading danny as town but I am not sure how much I trust that danny is really really good at playing scum he isn't afraid to get cosy

Muffin's probably town, yes. Sangres-Dan being an SK pair still leaves the mystery of the N1/N2 kill dilemma, though.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Muffin's probably town, yes. Sangres-Dan being an SK pair still leaves the mystery of the N1/N2 kill dilemma, though.

Not at all? You w4ere the one floating that Pieguy could have been a shot.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Townblock?: Sangres, Dan, Mollie
Probably not willing to touch today: mastin2, Metal Sonic, Venmar, orcinus, zMuffin* (is Skulls pressure here sudden; missing mafia kill last night relevant?)

The rest: Skull, Aegor, Gooner, Kaze* (need to review him again, I keep waffling, slight townlean?)

[pirate mollie]

Ilu mollie.

But gooner is a townie for his post today. Or at least not mafia. Sk plausible.

Actually Skull SK makes little sense unless ninja. Ssk would have outed her on d3 for sure.

I LOVE YOU TOO AP AND I MISS YOU!!!

[mastin2]

Townblock?: Sangres, Dan, Mollie
Probably not willing to touch today: mastin2, Metal Sonic, Venmar, orcinus, zMuffin* (is Skulls pressure here sudden; missing mafia kill last night relevant?)

The rest: Skull, Aegor, Gooner, Kaze* (need to review him again, I keep waffling, slight townlean?)

Move orc up and move Gooner way, WAY up. Then you've got a fairly decent starting point.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Is SK-Mastin shooting Cephrir unlikely simply because you think you were a bigger priority or do you have other reasons for suspecting that SK-Mastin would not have shot Cephrir?

I doubt SK mastin would lie about reads in the thread. If mastin thought Cephrir was scum, then I strongly doubt she'd SK him last night since that makes the game heavily townsided with only one more mafia left (probably) for town to find before moving on.
I also doubt mastin shoots Cephrir for reasons even mastin pointed out (self wifom ahoy): the Ceph kill looks like something mastin would make.

I think SK mastin would want to remove a threat. BRO and I are good at reading mastin and have been suspecting mastin. We've even hinted at having a PR. Our death wouldn't really be extremely traceable (imo) and mastin-SK would -probably- be looking to pick off a perceived town threat last night. Kind of speculation heavy on my end, but I think it all adds up to not-mastin.

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So I think there being mafia in the 5p neighborhood seems very likely for reasons laid out before. I'm fairly certain its not Sangres (town for Dan flavor reasons) or Mollie (town because its mollie). Gooner seems likely to not be mafia based on his one analysis post out the gates today which involved the Ceph flip. Not impossible, just unlikely IMO. That leaves Aegor or Skull for a mafia pick in all probability.

The serial killer Im a little sketch on, could see it being a few different people. SkullDuggery is (mostly) confirmed not the SK. I doubt mastin is (reasons above). I think Dan/Sangres are clear for flavor.

I think Skull flipping mafia might make zMuffin slightly likelier to be SK.

P-edit: Daww I miss you too.

[sangres]

Orcinus needs to catch up and start doing useful stuff before I move him up from 2nd tier town.

[pirate mollie]

I STILL say muffina's incessant trolling is town the only thing that gives me pause is how he is playing up to sangres who are just gobbling it up. I am not entirely free of suspecting that danny and sangres are actually an sk faction or something I asked them about it in our neighborhood I need to go back and look at what they said but I think it was nacho who was reading danny as town but I am not sure how much I trust that danny is really really good at playing scum he isn't afraid to get cosy

Muffin's probably town, yes. Sangres-Dan being an SK pair still leaves the mystery of the N1/N2 kill dilemma, though.

there was a missing nk last night too why isn't anybody talking about that