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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:19 am

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Oh for heaven's sake,
how long will this take?

Vote: HighShroomish
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:54 am

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In post 243, Kdub wrote:Well that's going to be annoying. Can you explain how it benefits town to intentionally make your posts harder to read?
My rhyming bears no ill.
It makes the posts longer to make,
But I have time to kill
And not much at stake.

If anything it makes them pleasant to read
Just say them aloud, and my iso is the best indeed.
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I prefer that the scum must work through the mists.

Aside from HighShroomish (explanations for town reads on him are something I wish) --

hiplop might be scum, it is possible.
Though I find him incomprehensible.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:10 am

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@Rolodex if there were any, not that I'm aware of. And why would I keep asking questions if I wasn't feeling I was getting a read?(that's rhetorical.)
@Porkens why is Hadrian on your paranoia list?
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:26 am

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Vote Count 1.11:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

LastManStanding (L-6): Hadrian
morph the cat (L-7):
Madotsuki (L-7):
Porkens (L-7):
Quill (L-7):
SpyreX (L-7):
HighShroomish (L-5): Kdub, Madotsuki
hiplop (L-4): Spyrex, Quill, Porkens
awesomeusername (L-7):
Kdub (L-7):
Surye (L-6): morph the cat
Rolodex (L-6): awesomeusername
Hadrian (L-7):

Not Voting: LastManStanding, Surye, hiplop, Rolodex, HighShroomish

V/LA: LastManStanding through 3/6

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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:06 pm

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@HighShroomish Fair enough. What are your thoughts so far?

@Madotsuki The mist is a good place for the scum to sit. My one true fear is the town i'd admit. For information is the key to our quest. And yours is needed and is my only request.

@Kdub what your thoughts so far?

@Porkens I'll read your case and the defense after work (Lunch is finishing). If you feel strongly scum on awesomeusername, why the vote on hiplop?
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:15 pm

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I'm definitely lynching hiplop and shroomish before awesomeusername. He looked a lot scummier after I had done my PBPA than he did at first glance, so I downgraded him to bright red. He might belong in a lighter shade of scummy, though, since he still looks much better than Shroomish or Hiplop.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:17 pm

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Kdub, Madotsuki, SpyreX, Quill, Hadrian, Morph, could we consolidate and lynch somebody we all agree on?
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:37 pm

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we're
hunting for a coin to flip
discussing where we want our vote this afternoon.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:42 pm

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Ok, so Cabd notes that hiploc gets mislynched a lot. We'll take our time in sorting that read.

VOTE: LastManStanding.


awesomeusername is first runner up.

He's back tomorrow. Given his two posts in this game so far, it will take some serious wowing to move our vote.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:54 pm

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@Rolodex thoughts as in what? Reads list? What I'm thinking now(I'm thinking about cheese, if you really want to know.)?

What's your weakest scum read and why?
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:14 pm

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Wouldn't this behavior, which you seem to indicate is a scumtell, be defined as "not scumhunting"?
no.
Have you taken this stance in other games in the past (and provide links if you have)? Because I'm finding it quite hard to believe that you honestly think this.
since you plan on metaing me just check

and well we make them scumhunt silly
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:14 pm

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let me just say that lynching me would be a pretty terrible thing b/c reasons

lets just same in the hero this town deserves
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:16 pm

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fwiw ive been getting lynched as town a lot lately (guess im still getting back into mafia groove so im balls) and not being lyunched as scum

everyones been thinking im town as scum and scum as town. i personally dislike meta but yea worth looking into i guess
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:19 pm

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VOTE: hiplop Okay, those last two posts made this easy.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:24 pm

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y
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:28 pm

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Soft-PR claims, followed by "I'm scummy when I'm town".
In post 286, hiplop wrote:lets just same in the hero this town deserves
Not seeing this heroic content from you.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:28 pm

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And all this at L-4, while not actually responding to the questions at hand.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:29 pm

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Huh, those two posts made me feel like not wanting yo vote for him actually.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:36 pm

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Tomorrow I will stop sucking at being a hydra partner, promise. Juggling too many things this week.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:56 pm

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In post 284, HighShroomish wrote:@Rolodex thoughts as in what? Reads list? What I'm thinking now(I'm thinking about cheese, if you really want to know.)?

What's your weakest scum read and why?
Reads, gut feelings, reactions, or even a list if you'd like

Weak in what sense? Null with splash of scum? Let me re-read about and maybe get a fresh mindset. Maybe after the Awesomeusername case provided by porkens.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:49 pm

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In post 279, Rolodex wrote:@Kdub what your thoughts so far?
Still dislike HighShroomish, he'd be my top choice right now. I still want to look over some recent hiplop-town games (should get to that within the next day hopefully) before deciding whether I would rather lynch him today or not.
In post 292, Hadrian wrote:Huh, those two posts made me feel like not wanting yo vote for him actually.
I'm actually feeling similar. Not to the point where I don't suspect him, but I don't think softclaims are much of a scum tell, if at all.

Surye just got knocked down from null to slightly scummy.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:29 pm

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Sorry, I know I promised this yesterday, but I had this big post typed out and it got deleted. So these reads are as of post ~269. I'll post my thoughts on everything since then, including changes in my reads, shortly. Anyways, here's my promised read list:

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LastManStanding - I'm not really sure why people are scumreading LMS so hard after just two posts. Nothing really sticks out as that scummy to me besides maybe the claiming suggestion, but perhaps I should reread those posts a few times.
Null
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morph the cat - Not really sure what to think of this slot, honestly. The surety of Surye-scum was weird, and I think it’s especially odd how quickly that went away. There’s more commentary coming from morph than active information gathering, and they’re not really initiating interactions with others much. Then again, most of what morph has to say is pretty pro-town, but that’s fake-able.
Null-scum
, need to reread more intensively.

Madotsuki - I was going to complain here about how little she's contributed, but looking back, Madotsuki may not have posted that often but I like what she has said. It's focused and to the point. The self-imposed post restriction is kinda weird, but as Hadrian pointed out, she used it in the sign-up thread, so it's probably not alignment indicative.
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Porkens - This is my paranoia read, I suppose. I'm inclined to call Porkens town because he suggested the charter and is calling town to a higher level of play, but every now and then he has these posts which just rub me wrong. I do like the fact that he wrote up a case on me (did that reading at someone else's suggestion, too) and is now engaging me rather than writing me off as scum, though.
Leaning town
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Quill - His posts read to me like they're definitely coming from a town mindset. I'm not fully convinced of his towniness, though, since I feel like he's not trying super hard to search for scum.
Leaning town
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SpyreX - I like SpyreX’s positive reaction to Porkens’ attempt to raise town’s level of play. He zeroed in on the important pro-town stuff, too, and used the charter discussion to try to develop reads. Further, his reads seem to get at the heart of players’ motivations, rather than dealing with vague scumtell stuff.
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HighShroomish - He plays differently than everyone else; he has different opinions on some things and does some things differently. I don't think his playstyle is quite as pro-town as it could be, but what he says is internally consistent and checks out. I'm thinking he's town for basically the opposite reason that I'm under suspicion; he's not afraid to differ from everyone else.
Leaning town
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hiplop - I disagree with a lot of his logic, though bad logic itself isn’t a scumtell. I’m scumreading him because of his general attitude toward the game. I feel like he’s not really trying very hard. It seems like he’s just kind of hoping he slides by without trying too hard to influence the game (and using his weird logic to justify this), and that seems scummy to me.
Leaning scum
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Kdub - I really, really like how much he's scumhunting and his method of doing so. He's not being manipulative or overly aggressive but rather thoughtful and inquisitive. He's not afraid to get his hands dirty, either. I find all this incredibly pro-town, though could be fake-able.
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Surye - I've got nothing. I mean, his not posting for the first few pages while posting elsewhere was very mildly scummy, but easily explainable by real life stuff. And nothing really sticks out as particularly townish or scummy from what he's posted.
Null
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1baldeagle1 / Rolodex - I thought eagle’s play was scummy since his stance on the charter was basically “It’s all a distraction,” but he just mostly talked about the charter, without really trying to change the subject. I like Rolodex’s eagerness to develop reads on people, though, and that read on eagle is based on remarkably little information. I’m always kinda confused about what I think about replacements like this.
Null
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Hadrian - The first part of post alone is enough to make me townread them. They didn’t just complain about how the charter was being a distraction, but actually did something about it. And throughout the thread, I’m seeing thoughtful posts that seem to come from a town perspective.
Probably town
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So my only real scumread right now is hiplop. I'd really like to see more from Surye and LMS though.

UNVOTE: Rolodex

I'll place my vote somewhere after I analyze the last page or so.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:53 pm

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@awesomeusername do you happen to recall off the top of your head what the basis for our Surye vote was?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:21 pm

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I know people are going to jump on me for agreeing that I need to rethink my hiplop read, but I do think we need to take into account the fact that he's mislynched a lot. (Actually, I'm going to check his meta on that.) I'm not really sure how to interpret the soft claim; since this is a role madness game, he's unlikely to be vanilla anyway…
Relevant question: Is anyone here vehemently opposed to a hiplop lynch?

I am rethinking my read, but I'm going to test something here.
VOTE: hiplop

@hiplop:
In post 285, hiplop wrote:
Have you taken this stance in other games in the past (and provide links if you have)? Because I'm finding it quite hard to believe that you honestly think this.
since you plan on metaing me just check

and well we make them scumhunt silly
This conversation is getting hard to follow and I'm getting confused. What does the last line mean? The town makes the scum scumhunt so they blend in?

@morph: Off the top of my head, you voted Surye because you thought he was scum avoiding taking a stance on the charter, posting elsewhere but not here. Why? Also, how do you feel about Surye now?

@Surye: Does it matter to you whether hiplop is telling the truth and really is lynched as town frequently or not? Or is it more just that he's using that excuse at this time?
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:33 pm

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