Mini 1558 - VisCon: Crossroads [Game Over]

[Majiffy]

Where is Desperado's retroactive case-building?

Barring a lack of ability to illustrate said retroactive case-building on the part of Desperado, why do you propose we start with him first? And furthermore, if Desperado isn't retroactively case-building, who on the wagon is?

For you, Bait.

[hiplop]

GIF was town? hm crazy

[borkjerfkin]

Jiffy how are you feeling about the people that blindly latched onto you yesterday?

@pie - please answer me about your desp read. (Getting back into the game in general would be nice too).

I'm trying to figure out what GIF's death means readwise [if he wasn't killed just for his (odd) crumb].

[Brian Skies]

Where is Desperado's retroactive case-building?

Barring a lack of ability to illustrate said retroactive case-building on the part of Desperado, why do you propose we start with him first? And furthermore, if Desperado isn't retroactively case-building, who on the wagon is?

For you, Bait.

Pretty sure he requested replacement. Do you still think he could be town? Why?

I'm trying to figure out what GIF's death means readwise [if he wasn't killed just for his (odd) crumb].

There was a small handful of people he suspected, but I'm currently leaning towards PR hunting. Do you think anybody he suspected could have felt threatened?

GIF was town? hm crazy

Do you have

any

reads or anything you'd like to contribute?

This is also the first time I've seen a town witch in FakeGod's flavor. I guess it was bound to happen eventually.

[FakeGod]

havingfitz replaces bait.

[borkjerfkin]

There was a small handful of people he suspected, but I'm currently leaning towards PR hunting. Do you think anybody he suspected could have felt threatened?

Gaiden if anyone. That was the only person on his list that wasn't being pushed harder by someone else.

[havingfitz]

Reading....

[notscience]

VOTE: Gaiden

[Kalimar]

Original Roll String: 1d4

1 4-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

[Kalimar]

Vote: Who

[Majiffy]

Prod dodge will post later

[Who]

Kalimar, why are you using a dice to determine whom to vote for?

[pieguyn]

@pie - please answer me about your desp read. (Getting back into the game in general would be nice too).

Desp is null-town although it's almost entirely gut and I haven't formally sorted him yet. I don't get any sort of feeling of trying to make smth bad happen with his posts and it felt like his play in fast and furious. however, thx to ~reasons~, I'm starting to think I might be wrong

@EVERYONE: gun to your head, how many scum on the neil wagon?

[borkjerfkin]

@EVERYONE: gun to your head, how many scum on the neil wagon?

Don't know, and I'm not prepared to use VCA to clear/condemn people at this point in the game. I'm curious as to where you're going with this considering no scum have flipped.

@ns: are you sheepable?

My hypothesis about Desp (which would have made him definite town) is no longer in play.

[borkjerfkin]

Kalimar, why are you using a dice to determine whom to vote for?

In addition to this being a good question, why roll a D4 in particular?

[notscience]

I'm never sheepable, bork.

This is more on the premise that I don't really see town-gaiden here than seeing scum-gaiden.

[SXTLHGaiden]

Scum Gaiden would have shot GiF.

[borkjerfkin]

I'm never sheepable, bork.

This is more on the premise that I don't really see town-gaiden here than seeing scum-gaiden.

Since gif really never got around to telling me, I'll ask you: how do you distinguish between town/scum gaiden? Or I guess maybe more on the topic of what you're claiming: what are you

not

seeing here that would be indicative of town gaiden? Does he have one town game you expect him to emulate consistently?

Other stuff I want from you:
How do you feel about Majiffy today after sheeping him onto a town lynch?
How do you feel about particular others who did the same thing?

[Majiffy]

Jiffy how are you feeling about the people that blindly latched onto you yesterday?

Ambivalent. I got my lynch. Disappointed it didn't hit scum. Life goes on.

Pretty sure he requested replacement. Do you still think he could be town? Why?

Rather not get into it. Also really wanted him to answer, now I have to get a read on his replacement.

[notscience]

Paranoia is kinda what I use to guage it- like his read on me and TSO in Frozen. It was just so out there, it didn't seem like something scum would concoct without someone else mentioning it first. I don't have too many games with him, but paranoia is something I like to look for.

I'm kinda underwhelmed tbh but

Majiffy gets auto townpoints

I don't really know, I'm not the best at reading him. He's got like nothing today though, might be town-denial.

I don't really remember who else did the same, I need to go back and reread.

[Majiffy]

This is probably the most painful game I've ever played.

[havingfitz]

Quick check in. RL and another game that just went into night have slowed me down. Will be caught up w/i 24 hrs.

[notscience]

This is probably the most painful game I've ever played.

I take it you've never played that game where you have to make the knife go through all your fingers?

[havingfitz]

OK...catch up read (Part I):
 
Page 1)...RVS bleh.
Page 2)
- see if Majiffy ever explained his "serious vote" on Konowa.
- notscience follows blindly
- Bait hops on pieguyn wagon for no reason which starts to build up.
- Not feeling Desperado's reasons for voting Konowa.  Too much reasoning IMO.
- Ah...Majiffy felt #24 was forced.  I disagree (hindsight aside)
Page 3)
- Majiffy pushing Konowa wagon.
- pieguyn votes Bait (OMGUS says me to you).
- Desperado scum reading Bait so he (Desp) can be scum too.
- So Who doesn't see Konowa as scum but considering following the wagon (which he never does)
Page 4)
- GIF has intel on Who (#79)
zzzzzz
Page 5)
- Majiffy still pushing Konowa...notscience still liking it. 
- kirroha can be town like Bait said.
Page 6)
- bork echoes my "too much reasong" comment above wrt Desp vote on Konowa.
- I'm not saying Majiffy is scum or anything but I felt his push on Konowa was wrong as I read through the first time and I like bork's exchange with him.
Page 7)
- Ahhh....a hiplop Majiffy sheep.  And I was sort of reading hiplop town till then
- Good Kalimar questions to hiplop in #153
- And hiplop says he sees Konowa as town (#155).  WTF?  And he keeps his vote on Konowa...WTF?
- Skimming...zzzzz...thinking of just sheeping bork.
Page 8)
nada.
 
OK...that's halfway through the game.  Might be tomorrow before I finish.
ATP I'm reading bork and Kalimar as town and leaning town on Majiffy.
hiplop and notscience are pretty interchangeable as flippant useless posters
Suspecting Desp most ATM and probably pie next.  We'll see what Part II leads to.
And again...sorry for the delay in getting up to speed.

[Brian Skies]

Scum Gaiden would have shot GiF.

Hahaha. This isn't making you look any better.

But for what it's worth, I also would have shot GiF.

Vote: Who

Because I want to see where this goes.