1542: Book of Shadows Vol. 1 ~ Game Over


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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:49 am

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Vote Count 5.06With six alive it takes four to lynch.

Messiah Complex: ProHawk [1]
Scienceshrimp:
Mastin2: Squirrel Girl [1]
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ProHawk: Messiah Complex, mastin2 [2]
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Not voting: Nero Cain, scienceshrimp [2]


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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:54 am

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In post 2015, Squirrel Girl wrote:@ProHawk - how do you see Shrimp working with MC as a buddy, if at all?
I originally had them as scum before I knew MC was, so a lot of it was a bit of conf-bias and not finding NS-posts town at all. I was trying to figure out the association between MC and either Shrimp, or Mastin hence my hunting the two. Their recent re-evaluation of the game-state gives them a lot of town-points in my opinion. Mostly because of what they said in 2019.
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:54 am

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In post 2008, scienceshrimp wrote:plus nero might have a point about MC being the odd claim out
No he doesn't. He still hasn't explained how he knows Imp was 1-shot, or why d3x's passive ability is relevant, or how being unlimited automatically makes me more powerful than SG (it doesn't).
In post 2010, scienceshrimp wrote:
In post 2001, ProHawk wrote:Look at you sucking up to Nero, Tell me Messiah, what kinda tricks do you think you have up your sleeve to win this thing? You are DEAD after I flip.
for example, this looks very much town^
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ProHawk blindly proclaiming that I am DEAD after his flip when his townflip would mean game over looks very much town??
In post 2012, scienceshrimp wrote:because it looks like he doesn't have any fight in him. (on MC's part)
is that pic indicating that you agree?
What am I supposed to be fighting? I caught someone in a lie, he's been slipping all over himself since I revealed it, and he was at L-1. I don't understand why you're arbitrarily assigning guilt based on who "has the most fight in him."

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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:14 am

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You aren't doing anything Des. You aren't scum hunting. You don't care because you are scum.

Do I know the game will end with my lynch? No.
Do I think the game will end with my lynch? Its probable, but in the event it isn't you will be caught in YOUR lie. I can't figure out why you would lie only to get caught in my flip, so I can only lean on the easiest explanation which is we are in MYLO/LYLO.

I am going to give you a little hint on how I play scum: My fake claims will align with my actual role in some way such as to avoid THE EXACT situation you claim to have put me in. If you think I am dumb enough as scum to claim a VT when

A) Fake claims are a thing and are given to avoid conf-scum in a mass-claim.
B) I know that trackers/watchers are a thing

IF I had a targeting role, I would have either waited until I was last in line to claim OR claim a role that involves targeting and would pick people I actually targeted.

I do know how to play this game and am strategic in doing so. The reason why it looks like I am not here is because I actually don't have a role nor a "team" with whom to be strategic with.
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:23 am

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In post 2028, ProHawk wrote:You aren't doing anything Des. You aren't scum hunting. You don't care because you are scum.
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:24 am

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In post 2028, ProHawk wrote:Do I know the game will end with my lynch? No.
Do I think the game will end with my lynch? Its probable, but in the event it isn't you will be caught in YOUR lie. I can't figure out why you would lie only to get caught in my flip, so I can only lean on the easiest explanation which is we are in MYLO/LYLO.
And this is seriously getting dumb. Either justify there being only one scum left or explain why you've been pretending it isn't MYLO/LYLO all day.

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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:39 am

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I can't justify anything except I know you are lying. Highly doubt only two scum are in this game. The only thing that made me think it MIGHT not be MYLO/LYLO is if your scum-partner is a universal town-read. The other thing that has been eating at me is the amount of kills being 2 kills N1, no kills N2, one kill N3, and one kill N4. So the pattern isn't really matching up with scum being able to get two kills unless scum has a two-shot poisoner and is saving/saved their shot.

I don't have a freaking clue what is happening at night.
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:46 am

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In post 2031, ProHawk wrote:Highly doubt only two scum are in this game. The only thing that made me think it MIGHT not be MYLO/LYLO is if your scum-partner is a universal town-read.
And yet your constant refrain all day has been "I can't wait to see you die after I flip town!" to the point where you felt comfortable threatening to self-hammer and repeatedly implored the town to listen to you after you flip town?

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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:54 am

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The self-hammer comment was made in a fit of rage, but its good to see you actually being a contender in your self-made 1v1.

Like I said, I can only assume what is going to happen after I get lynched, but in the event the game continues on, I have done the best I can. If its over, well people can go back and evaluate where they went wrong in their reads.
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:02 am

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Awkwardly enough, it turns out the line of communication was faulty. My grandmother's apparently fine, but I'm on my guard just in case.
In post 1985, ProHawk wrote:Does anyone else see why its nearly indistinguishable to tell the difference of scum between Mastin and Shrimp, or is it just me?
Maybe that's because we share the same alignment and thus, distinguishing between us is going to be hard.
In post 2001, ProHawk wrote:Look at you sucking up to Nero, Tell me Messiah, what kinda tricks do you think you have up your sleeve to win this thing? You are DEAD after I flip.
The thing about this is, if MC were actually scum and you actually town, the only possible reason he'd have to claim this is if the game would be won after your lynch.
That you're INSISTING that the game will continue after your "mis"lynch is yet more proof that you're scum. Either MC's town (and thus, you scum), or MC's scum-making-winning-game-play. The thought that MC would be scum-making-play-not-winning-game simply doesn't come from town.
In post 2005, Squirrel Girl wrote:@Mastin - what about your role was a counter to my role?
There isn't anything from the roleclaims themselves. Busdriver/Cop/Vig have no overlap with JK. If there's anything about your role that's a counter to mine, it'd have to be in flavor, but I'm not an expert on that, so I wouldn't know. I've never pushed the idea that your role is a counter to mine.
In post 2005, Squirrel Girl wrote:though she does seem to have forgotten that she suspected me in her most recent comments. That or her read changed...and I don't think the gamestate changed at all betwixt and between, so it's an odd shift.
What game are you reading where the gamestate didn't change?
What changed is that MC claimed an incriminating result on ProHawk. That itself wouldn't clear you. ProHawk's reaction to the result REEKS of being a scumslip about your alignment being town. MC said he saw ProHawk visit you. ProHawk reacted that he didn't visit the scum's nightkill. That smells of being him having slipped that he targeted you for a poison kill...which would necessitate you being town. You can't GET a larger change in the gamestate than that.
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In post 2001, ProHawk wrote:Look at you sucking up to Nero, Tell me Messiah, what kinda tricks do you think you have up your sleeve to win this thing? You are DEAD after I flip.
for example, this looks very much town^
Like hell it is. That's a scumclaim, not a town mindset.

There's a difference between saying something and linking to it. Read ProHawk's posts from here onward. That's him during D2. Then look at his posting on D3. THIS IS IMPORTANT. An important piece of the game is that orcinus softclaimed on D2 to have a role countering ProHawk. Orcinus was ProHawk's scumbuddy. They organized a bus. And this post is a dead-ringer for the post you're towntelling him for.
Look here and here for the setup from orc's end.

It's the same thing this game. ProHawk is scum. MC's probably scum, yes. But ProHawk? DEFINITELY is.
In post 2012, scienceshrimp wrote:because it looks like he doesn't have any fight in him. (on MC's part)
GUESS WHAT NOT HAVING ANY FIGHT IN THEM IS A SIGN OF. It's not a sign that ProHawk's town. It's a sign that he is scum.
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:48 am

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In post 2005, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 1986, Nero Cain wrote:So yeah...anyways FMPOV these posts don't look like you wanting to talk. We are also in possible lylo (unless the 2nd kill is a third party) so you could easily cast doubt on me and then hammer me all easy like. So lets do some talking today while I'm still here. Whats your theory on the 2nd kill n1 and why shouldn't I think its from you?
I don't think you know what titillated means and I also think it's kind of awkward to suggest I was pushing on you when you are V/LA when I didn't start pushing on you until you promised you'd chat with me tomorrow. You were the one who made the promise, I didn't suddenly just start pushing at you for no reason.
notice how she dodged the question about the kill.

Did you really think that I was dodging talking to you?
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In post 1990, Nero Cain wrote:an MC/Mastin team isn't impossible either and with prohawk NOT being hammered yet it lends some cred to the theory of scum already siting on him (if he's not scum himself.) Either way all these point to MC being scum.
So I'm taking this as "not confirming masons with Mastin"
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In post 1994, Nero Cain wrote:So does Mastin and NmantS still needs to explain why SG's pr makes it town.
Mastin is claiming his role makes me more likely scum, not the opposite. though she does seem to have forgotten that she suspected me in her most recent comments. That or her read changed...and I don't think the gamestate changed at all betwixt and between, so it's an odd shift.
I was wanting Mastin to full claim. "THE AND" part was a separate request but maybe I should have used "and also" instead.

What PR are you claiming, Nero?
one that you can't figure out.
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:00 pm

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In post 2011, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 2006, ProHawk wrote:Does either Shrimp or Mastin or Squirrel deny this possibility?
I think with a poisoner it could potentially be. It also could not be. I'm willing to consider both possibilities.
??????

So you have no ideas on the setup at hand? TBH, I'm starting to think the psn kill was one shot, weather that one shot was from 3rd party or mafia I'm not sure.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:13 pm

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In post 2027, Messiah Complex wrote:He still hasn't explained how he knows Imp was 1-shot, or why d3x's passive ability is relevant, or how being unlimited automatically makes me more powerful than SG (it doesn't).
1. Imp was one shot since I think that psn kill was one shot
2. dx's ability can only be used once...
3. SG has claimed 3 1 shots, with only one of those being a really pro-town action, you have unlimited investigations which is really really powerful.

All these seem self explanatory and I dunno how you cannot get this. Des, you are sounding like a broken record right now with "prohawk is scum prohawk is scum." Of course scum could keep you alive for WIFOM but there's also a good chance you'd be dead and if you are dead we can't pick your brain tomorrow so who is the other scum?

Why is formerfish not posting?
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:33 pm

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In post 2034, mastin2 wrote:ProHawk's reaction to the result REEKS of being a scumslip about your alignment being town. MC said he saw ProHawk visit you. ProHawk reacted that he didn't visit the scum's nightkill
Wouldn't that point to prohawk NOT being mafia though? Something that I'm worrying a lil' bit about is that this is going to be like her last mini theme and have 4 scum in it. I really think MC is scum here. I also think SG is scum. I do kinda wonder if MC is bussin' Prohawk but meh...I much rather lynch from MC/SG. AND if you think that Prohawk slipped 3rd party then why kill him today?
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:10 pm

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Ok, so I think I have the game figured out.

Scum has the poisoner, and its 2-shot, with the first having been used N0 and the second not used until last-night. Seems a little OP to give scum an extra kill, but we have had one commuter and one poison-doc, so maybe that's the balance?

MC and Mastin are scum-together. Which would explain how MC was able to use Mastin in his results without worry of a counter and why Mastin is working so hard to discredit me and force my lynch. It also explains why he is fake-guiltying me at this stage in the game knowing to kills are going to drop tonight.

Mastin, I don't see what similarities you are trying to draw from my scum-game to this one. Because I said that lynching me will end the game? :neutral:
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:09 pm

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In post 2030, Messiah Complex wrote:And this is seriously getting dumb. Either justify there being only one scum left or explain why you've been pretending it isn't MYLO/LYLO all day.
Why would there need to be only one scum left for it to not be MYLO/LYLO?
In post 2034, mastin2 wrote:There isn't anything from the roleclaims themselves. Busdriver/Cop/Vig have no overlap with JK. If there's anything about your role that's a counter to mine, it'd have to be in flavor, but I'm not an expert on that, so I wouldn't know. I've never pushed the idea that your role is a counter to mine.
Holders of your slot did sell that though. Any theories on why they were goofy?
In post 2034, mastin2 wrote:ProHawk reacted that he didn't visit the scum's nightkill. That smells of being him having slipped that he targeted you for a poison kill...which would necessitate you being town. You can't GET a larger change in the gamestate than that.
ProHawk didn't do that - he reacted as if he'd been called as specifically going to the night kill.
In post 2034, mastin2 wrote:It's the same thing this game. ProHawk is scum. MC's probably scum, yes. But ProHawk? DEFINITELY is.
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Wait, so your theory is that MC is probably scum and is bussing his buddy...?

In post 2035, Nero Cain wrote:notice how she dodged the question about the kill.
there was nothing to discuss - it was pretty obviously the poisoner, and there's no way for me to show it was or wasn't me who did it. I didn't see any value to the question, I'll admit. Who is to say Mastin didn't do that kill? <--- that question has the same value as the one you asked me.
In post 2035, Nero Cain wrote:Did you really think that I was dodging talking to you?
No, and I also never said you were dodging anything. I did intimate that you weren't here when you said you'd be here - which is obviously true.
In post 2035, Nero Cain wrote:I was wanting Mastin to full claim. "THE AND" part was a separate request but maybe I should have used "and also" instead.
Has she not full claimed?
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What PR are you claiming, Nero?
one that you can't figure out.
Well, clearly. But I do think there is a value to it as we discuss whether or not MC's role is or is not an awkward fit for the game.
In post 2036, Nero Cain wrote:So you have no ideas on the setup at hand? TBH, I'm starting to think the psn kill was one shot, weather that one shot was from 3rd party or mafia I'm not sure.
Correct, I have some theories about the setup, and I've mentioned them, but I see no way to draw a clear conclusion about the setup.
I don't see much value in having a poison doc to counter a 1-shot poisoner. I don't think the poison is 1-shot.
In post 2038, Nero Cain wrote:Wouldn't that point to prohawk NOT being mafia though? Something that I'm worrying a lil' bit about is that this is going to be like her last mini theme and have 4 scum in it. I really think MC is scum here. I also think SG is scum. I do kinda wonder if MC is bussin' Prohawk but meh...I much rather lynch from MC/SG. AND if you think that Prohawk slipped 3rd party then why kill him today?
I really don't think MC/SG makes a lot of sense as a scum pairing. Can you describe what it is about my play/Smudger's play that makes you read scum there? I don't think it's a good case and would love to be able to show that.
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I also don't like how Mastin is ignoring the VT count in the game. I think that is one of the best cases for ProHawk town presented, and Mastin has him as super scum, but hasn't addressed that point.
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:12 pm

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You should consider that an invitation.
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:47 pm

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just messaged NS. i would like to vote for MC, though. going to wait before doing so
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:07 pm

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In post 2034, mastin2 wrote:
In post 2010, scienceshrimp wrote:
In post 2001, ProHawk wrote:Look at you sucking up to Nero, Tell me Messiah, what kinda tricks do you think you have up your sleeve to win this thing? You are DEAD after I flip.
for example, this looks very much town^
Like hell it is. That's a scumclaim, not a town mindset.

There's a difference between saying something and linking to it. Read ProHawk's posts from here onward. That's him during D2. Then look at his posting on D3. THIS IS IMPORTANT. An important piece of the game is that orcinus softclaimed on D2 to have a role countering ProHawk. Orcinus was ProHawk's scumbuddy. They organized a bus. And this post is a dead-ringer for the post you're towntelling him for.
Look here and here for the setup from orc's end.

It's the same thing this game. ProHawk is scum. MC's probably scum, yes. But ProHawk? DEFINITELY is.
hmm.
ya but, how come you are not questioning or evaluating MC at all? from my pov (town) i'm a little torn cause, i was thinking along with NS that prohawk was scum. but his latest posts have me reconsidering. how can you be so sure?
makes me suspicious that you're pushing PH's lynch, as scum with MC.

also from my pov, squirrel and nero are town.
that only leaves - you, MC and prohawk. and by the way things are going... it seems more likely that both scum together, right now, are going to be pushing for a mislynch, in order to end the game.
they get a mislynch, and a night kill... and they're tied.
the 2 people who seem to be pushing together are you and MC.

why would scum bus now at this point? i mean, they could and all... drag out the game, hoping for town cred. but it's already been put on the table that a bus between MC and prohawk might be taking place. (which i doubt, personally). but it's not like scum can really count on a ton of town cred for bussing at this point, when the rest of town is not dumb enough to not see that that might be happening.
best move for scum is to go for the mislynch.. i think.
and it kinda seems like you 2 fit the bill for that (you and MC).

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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:56 am

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In post 2038, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2034, mastin2 wrote:ProHawk's reaction to the result REEKS of being a scumslip about your alignment being town. MC said he saw ProHawk visit you. ProHawk reacted that he didn't visit the scum's nightkill
Wouldn't that point to prohawk NOT being mafia though?
Whut. No, it's explicitly a scumslip. He reacted as if Squirrel Girl was the nightkill of the mafia. Neither of which are proven facts. (Edit: Nevermind. Just checked. He didn't ever explicitly say mafia nightkill. He did imply, though.)
In post 2040, Squirrel Girl wrote:Holders of your slot did sell that though. Any theories on why they were goofy?
Fairly certain Titus didn't? She's one of the isoes I've skimmed, and I saw her doubting the claim for the same reasons I did, a combo of flavor and thinking your role doesn't fit into the setup.
Wait, so your theory is that MC is probably scum and is bussing his buddy...?
Yes. However, if given the choice between lynching probable-scum (MC) and confirmed scum (ProHawk), I'm lynching the confirmed scum. To think of it in another way? You don't lynch the cop-with-a-guilty first; you lynch the guilty first, and then analyze the cop's alignment after that. (In this case, tracker.) MC is most likely scum. He is not confirmed scum, and thus, lynching him is too large a risk. ProHawk IS confirmed scum, and thus, is the risk-free lynch. We can analyze MC's alignment after we have ProHawk dead. It's really that simple.
In post 2041, Squirrel Girl wrote:I also don't like how Mastin is ignoring the VT count in the game. I think that is one of the best cases for ProHawk town presented, and Mastin has him as super scum, but hasn't addressed that point.
Because I saw it as such a useless point to address that I didn't bother? I saw it, and discarded it. I didn't ignore it. VT count in a mini normal is a fine point. Theme games by their very nature are more PR-heavy, and I can see that especially being true if the scumteam's relatively stacked. Having "only" four VTs is not at all imbalanced. It's not what I'd do as a setup designer. (I'm not fond of role madness, because my experience with role madness has been a 100% town winrate--well, until Tales just ended, but even then that game was close.) But bluntly? I expect it of other setup designers. A theme game which has the same PR ration as a mini normal is the rare exception to the general rule, a pleasant surprise I love to run into. Not the norm.
In post 2044, scienceshrimp wrote:ya but, how come you are not questioning or evaluating MC at all?
Again: questions come tomorrow, not today. We have confscum from ProHawk. Figuring out if MC's scum (likely, yes) comes tomorrow. Not today. I guess I could question him a bit. I am evaluating him, if you haven't noticed. But I'm never lynching him before I'm lynching ProHawk.
from my pov (town) i'm a little torn cause, i was thinking along with NS that prohawk was scum. but his latest posts have me reconsidering. how can you be so sure?
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Read the damn links. This is ProHawk's scumgame. He scumslipped this game; that's the only difference. Tell me what he posted seemed legitimate, and didn't seem like a scumslip. It doesn't. He slipped. He's scum. His posts are faked and manufactured.
also from my pov, squirrel and nero are town. that only leaves - you, MC and prohawk.
Same back at you. And know everything you're saying about me and MC? Applies in reverse for ProHawk. The reason MC isn't 100% scum-with-ProHawk is specifically because you're now defending ProHawk just when a lynch on him seemed to be realistically possible. Do you see that?
why would scum bus now at this point?
For the towncred. It worked in Tales. Orc won the game after bussing ProHawk with a counterclaim. This game, two players largely suspected would pull the same stunt. And then, BAM! One becomes conftown, and can lynch town in the resulting mylo/lylo for the win. I JUST saw it happen, Mantis. I KNOW it's something ProHawk can think of, and I also KNOW that it's the kind of plan a scum-Desp would support. This isn't some reckless move likely to backfire. This is a move that's low-risk (they're already the most suspected), and INCREDIBLY high reward.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:28 am

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In post 2045, mastin2 wrote:Fairly certain Titus didn't? She's one of the isoes I've skimmed, and I saw her doubting the claim for the same reasons I did, a combo of flavor and thinking your role doesn't fit into the setup.
Would you like to expand on those - since I don't think you have other than to say you think my role does exist but you don't think it's exactly a town role...which indicates you did believe the role could exist in this setup as long as it had a different alignment, which makes this commentary seem pretty wonky and false.

And I haven't seen any fluff logic for disputing me - expecially from a player claiming their fluff was left up to interpretation.



I'd really like other people to read your response here and mine. I think you're scumming it up really seriously there.
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:29 am

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In post 2045, mastin2 wrote:Yes. However, if given the choice between lynching probable-scum (MC) and confirmed scum (ProHawk), I'm lynching the confirmed scum. To think of it in another way? You don't lynch the cop-with-a-guilty first; you lynch the guilty first, and then analyze the cop's alignment after that. (In this case, tracker.) MC is most likely scum. He is not confirmed scum, and thus, lynching him is too large a risk. ProHawk IS confirmed scum, and thus, is the risk-free lynch. We can analyze MC's alignment after we have ProHawk dead. It's really that simple.
And I responded to the first one and didn't even look at this. Read this explanation here, and then notice that mastin has been arguing about how the only way MC would do this as scum was if it was a scum winning manuver, and then recognize how this doesn't make sense if Mastin thinks MC is scum. I am so right about her!
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:32 am

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Even more so, she was arguing that with ProHawk as a way to show that ProHawk was scum for not thinking of it like that, and yet here she is doing the same thing. I feel like I'm slam dunking this right now, and that I should have an achievement award flare up with every post I'm making.
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:58 pm

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In post 2040, Squirrel Girl wrote:there was nothing to discuss - it was pretty obviously the poisoner, and there's no way for me to show it was or wasn't me who did it. I didn't see any value to the question, I'll admit. Who is to say Mastin didn't do that kill? <--- that question has the same value as the one you asked me.
Maybe a better question is what do you believe the setup is. Do you think there's 1 mafia and a third party left? Do you think its 2 mafia? 2 mafia and a third party? TBH, I don't really care but I think you are the most likely killer. I think Hanzo was a lil' liar about his actions. His claimed n1 action makes very very little sense from a town perspective.
In post 2040, Squirrel Girl wrote:No, and I also never said you were dodging anything. I did intimate that you weren't here when you said you'd be here - which is obviously true.
So.......you didn't think I was dodging anything and you aren't scum reading me and yet you kept on making a dozen lil' posts about me not being around, what was the purpose of them then?
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