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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:18 am

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Hold up a damn second:

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I'm confirming with the mod but I saw hiplop get targetted with
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:19 am

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HURR BLOCKED nevermind

See this is what happens when we dont murder people
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:20 am

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Anyways cart before horse - AUN reasons not to lynch lets discuss this or murder
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:24 am

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Hmm...that made me look back to morph's reaction to Spy's claim on D2:
In post 432, SpyreX wrote:I have an additional request to go with that:
If you targeted hiplop last night, say so. Not with WHAT, but just that you targeted him.
No mention from morph about targeting hiplop in his next post following this one ().
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:25 am

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In post 1424, Kdub wrote:"Doubles-restricted" sounds like more of an impediment to the role than a boost (having it last two nights).
Yeah, "restricted" suggests "doubles not allowed", not "doubles are mandatory", though I guess it can be read either way.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:39 am

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Looking at HS's posts makes me think he could well have targeted SpyreX on N2. When he revealed he said -- -- that he'd used his power on night 1
"because I wanted to protect [Morph], and I was kinda thinking that they might not have that important of a role"
. With this attitude it definitely makes sense that he'd target SpyreX next if he could (since SpyreX was very likely town and had partially claimed enough to suggest a 'not that important' role).
In post 1428, Kdub wrote:No mention from morph about targeting hiplop in his next post following this one (435).
Morph targeted
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if
Surye had a night action, but I'm not really sure that it would make sense for him to say "I targeted hiplop" when he .. didn't?).
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:22 am

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@Hadrian: I used my roleblock last night for the reasons I initially mentioned (because I wasn't sure about Kdub and wanted to hedge my bets) as well as the fact that I wanted to use it before I got killed overnight and couldn't explain what I did and why. I didn't see myself as an obvious target last night, but the less people we have to more likely I am to drop dead. Last night seemed the safest time to use it as a result.
In post 1399, Hadrian wrote:
If username and SpyreX are both town, then Porkens is also town and so scum has to be Morph/Quill. But then what was the point of their interactions at the start of the day? Morph could have claimed differently or even claimed the same way and then just insisted he'd been roleblocked by scum, no?
I'm not blaming you for not including this, because this is the exact way I post (and I think I actually did say this already), but the other possibility is that you and Morph are the remaining scum. Which makes much more sense than Morph/me, I think we can all agree.
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In post 1409, Porkens wrote:Absolutely. Why do you think we are in a bad position?

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While I generally agree town is in a decent position, I don't think this list is that accurate. Quill/SpyreX SEEM town, but it's nowhere near a lock.

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Let's say we lynch awesome today. If he flips scum, we have two chances to find one scum in Spy/Quill/morph, with a VERY outside chance of Porkens-scum. Those are pretty good odds. If he flips town, we need to go 2 for 2 with the same group. That's not a great spot, but doable. That's why we need to figure out a plan for night actions to make those two situations as manageable as possible.

I'm not going to start figuring stuff until we hear from SpyreX, because it sounded like he had some info that could potentially shake things up.
I guess when it comes down to it, this is the plan I agree with, although I'd put SpyreX in likely/confirmable town and slide Porkens and Hadrian down into the lynch pool with question marks. Porkens in particular would be a potential dark horse partner for Awesome, based on their early interactions.

Porkens, is it pro-town for us to discuss what my motivation of you did, and/or if you would be a good person to motivate again overnight?
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:32 am

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In post 1431, Quill wrote:
In post 1399, Hadrian wrote:
If username and SpyreX are both town, then Porkens is also town and so scum has to be Morph/Quill. But then what was the point of their interactions at the start of the day? Morph could have claimed differently or even claimed the same way and then just insisted he'd been roleblocked by scum, no?
I'm not blaming you for not including this, because this is the exact way I post (and I think I actually did say this already), but the other possibility is that you and Morph are the remaining scum. Which makes much more sense than Morph/me, I think we can all agree.[/quote

Um, no? I'm not sure what you think Pless should have included, but considering we're town and have no partners, we can't all agree we make better sense with someone we're not parters with.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:33 am

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In post 1430, Hadrian wrote:Morph targeted Surye though, didn't he? (I mean, yes, he claims to have done something that might have caused hiplop to be targeted by Surye if Surye had a night action, but I'm not really sure that it would make sense for him to say "I targeted hiplop" when he .. didn't?).
If you redirect player X to player Y, I think that counts as targeting both X and Y. I'm pretty sure most mods would have trackers see them visit both X and Y in that case. I just thought it was weird that morph doesn't say anything at all after Spy asks for people to say whether they targeted hiplop or not. I'd like to hear what they have to say about that.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:35 am

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In post 1432, Hadrian wrote:
In post 1431, Quill wrote:
In post 1399, Hadrian wrote:
If username and SpyreX are both town, then Porkens is also town and so scum has to be Morph/Quill. But then what was the point of their interactions at the start of the day? Morph could have claimed differently or even claimed the same way and then just insisted he'd been roleblocked by scum, no?
I'm not blaming you for not including this, because this is the exact way I post (and I think I actually did say this already), but the other possibility is that you and Morph are the remaining scum. Which makes much more sense than Morph/me, I think we can all agree.[/quote

Um, no? I'm not sure what you think Pless should have included, but considering we're town and have no partners, we can't all agree we make better sense with someone we're not parters with.
Okay, all of us who aren't you can agree, I guess. What I'm saying is that in the scenario you suggested, there's a roadblock to Morph and I being partners that isn't mirrored as strongly in your interactions with them.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:37 am

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In post 1433, Kdub wrote:
In post 1430, Hadrian wrote:Morph targeted Surye though, didn't he? (I mean, yes, he claims to have done something that might have caused hiplop to be targeted by Surye if Surye had a night action, but I'm not really sure that it would make sense for him to say "I targeted hiplop" when he .. didn't?).
If you redirect player X to player Y, I think that counts as targeting both X and Y. I'm pretty sure most mods would have trackers see them visit both X and Y in that case. I just thought it was weird that morph doesn't say anything at all after Spy asks for people to say whether they targeted hiplop or not. I'd like to hear what they have to say about that.
I agree with this. If I had a redirect and had redirected someone onto hiplop and that question was asked, I'd have said something. At the time, they couldn't know what Spyrex was talking about and didn't know they were blocked. I would have mentioned that I may have done something that involved hiplop, so it doesn't make sense that there was no reaction whatsoever.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:38 am

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In post 1434, Quill wrote:
In post 1432, Hadrian wrote:
In post 1431, Quill wrote:
In post 1399, Hadrian wrote:
If username and SpyreX are both town, then Porkens is also town and so scum has to be Morph/Quill. But then what was the point of their interactions at the start of the day? Morph could have claimed differently or even claimed the same way and then just insisted he'd been roleblocked by scum, no?
I'm not blaming you for not including this, because this is the exact way I post (and I think I actually did say this already), but the other possibility is that you and Morph are the remaining scum. Which makes much more sense than Morph/me, I think we can all agree.[/quote

Um, no? I'm not sure what you think Pless should have included, but considering we're town and have no partners, we can't all agree we make better sense with someone we're not parters with.
Okay, all of us who aren't you can agree, I guess. What I'm saying is that in the scenario you suggested, there's a roadblock to Morph and I being partners that isn't mirrored as strongly in your interactions with them.
Uh, yeah I'm sorry, but claiming to block your partner is not out of the realm of possibility. People have vig killed their own partners to make themselves look clear.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:38 am

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Mod, would you allow scum to perform a factional kill and use another active ability on the same night?


If the answer is no, then I think Quill might be confirmed town.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:40 am

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In post 1431, Quill wrote:@Hadrian: I used my roleblock last night for the reasons I initially mentioned (because I wasn't sure about Kdub and wanted to hedge my bets) as well as the fact that I wanted to use it before I got killed overnight and couldn't explain what I did and why. I didn't see myself as an obvious target last night, but the less people we have to more likely I am to drop dead. Last night seemed the safest time to use it as a result.
Why did you feel you
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:41 am

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In post 1437, Kdub wrote:
Mod, would you allow scum to perform a factional kill and use another active ability on the same night?


If the answer is no, then I think Quill might be confirmed town.
How could the answer be "no"? Quill is already claiming to have used two abilities on the same night.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:43 am

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Yeah, forgot about that. Well, never mind then.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:44 am

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If that's the case Kdub, then the only people not confirmed town would be those without night actions or proven not to have night actions.

Let's say quill can't kill and use his action at the same time and thus is confirmed town, then he couldn't have committed the night kill. Morph couldn't have committed the night kill due to role block. AUN can't have committed the kill because of role cop on you.

That leaves us who have no night action, and didn't commit the kill. Spyrex who's action is not confirmed. Porkens who's self-watch is not confirmed.

pedit: okay never mind.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:47 am

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In post 1437, Kdub wrote:
Mod, would you allow scum to perform a factional kill and use another active ability on the same night?


If the answer is no, then I think Quill might be confirmed town.
And wait -- even if Quill didn't send in the kill he wouldn't be confirmed town. What am I missing?
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:06 pm

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I suppose it wouldn't be completely confirmed now that I think more on it, but the only way it could work is if the scum are morph/Quill and they are running a gambit.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:50 pm

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We aren't scum, but I'm coming around to the idea that our cardflip would help town more than mislynching us would harm town.

The problem is, our night action could potentially either do some good tonight, or draw a scum counter that lets another town action take place. Assuming Quill and SpyreX are town, which I'm not certain of.

I almost caught SpyreX in the Song uPick game because he wasn't taking more of a leadership role in the game. Then I blinked, and the town roleblocker was lynched instead.

In this game, I was really impressed with his day 1. Day 2, he went after madot, but I guess kinda left a door open for us to derail that lynch. Day 3 was just retarded. :/

I'm asking myself if he's taking a leadership role in this game. I don't like the answer if I discount day 1.

Anyway I'm not anywhere close to willing to end this day. I'll be flying home on Tuesday and after that I'll have time to really dig back through the game and figure out what I missed or glossed over.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:00 pm

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In post 1437, Kdub wrote:
Mod, would you allow scum to perform a factional kill and use another active ability on the same night?
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:18 pm

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Vote Count 4.04:

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

morph the cat (L-3): awesomeusername
Porkens (L-4):
Quill (L-4):
SpyreX (L-4):
awesomeusername (L-2): Porkens, SpyreX
Kdub (L-4):
Hadrian (L-4):

Not Voting: morph the cat, Quill, Kdub, Hadrian

V/LA:

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-04-17 20:17:36)
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:52 pm

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In post 1431, Quill wrote:Porkens, is it pro-town for us to discuss what my motivation of you did, and/or if you would be a good person to motivate again overnight?
I think the less said the better till tomorrow. Make your own choice about your target tonight, I think.
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:53 pm

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In post 1444, morph the cat wrote:We aren't scum, but I'm coming around to the idea that our cardflip would help town more than mislynching us would harm town.

The problem is, our night action could potentially either do some good tonight, or draw a scum counter that lets another town action take place. Assuming Quill and SpyreX are town, which I'm not certain of.

I almost caught SpyreX in the Song uPick game because he wasn't taking more of a leadership role in the game. Then I blinked, and the town roleblocker was lynched instead.

In this game, I was really impressed with his day 1. Day 2, he went after madot, but I guess kinda left a door open for us to derail that lynch. Day 3 was just retarded. :/

I'm asking myself if he's taking a leadership role in this game. I don't like the answer if I discount day 1.

Anyway I'm not anywhere close to willing to end this day. I'll be flying home on Tuesday and after that I'll have time to really dig back through the game and figure out what I missed or glossed over.
Why did you ignore the question regarding Night 1 and hip lop?
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:58 pm

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Aha triple post again.

In post 1444, morph the cat wrote:I'm coming around to the idea that our cardflip would help town more than mislynching us would harm town.
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