NY 172: Another Large Normal (GAME OVER)

SiX · Post Post #2700 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:26 am

Also, why the sudden unvotes? We should just lynch AP...

Egg · Post Post #2701 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:30 am

Snork, SK could "shoot". Depends on the Mod. For now, I'd be taking "no gun" as an innocent and "gun" as scum OR some other anti town OR vig with the first two being most likely. Also, don't check Six. He already claimed having a gun. Checking him would basically be a non-result.

Yates, don't assume that every Mod uses the wiki.

Preview edit: but you could have accidently slipped your alignment or something. Stuff like that is better left to postgame. This is the last I will comment on that.

The unvotes are so Snork has time to do stuff.

Snork · Post Post #2702 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:35 am

The biggest thing I want to do right now is go through and chart out the most important VCs with updated flips so we can look at them.

I'm at work at the moment, and can't really do that without being noticed that I'm not working. I'll be out in about an hour, and if you guys can give me 2 hours to go through that and post it, then we can lynch.

Plessiez · Post Post #2703 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:54 am

It's day 3. Deadline for the day is 29th April 13:16. That's (expired on 2014-04-29 13:16:58).

Vote Count 3.2

AngryPidgeon [3 votes] (SiX, Damon_Gant, Egg)
SiX [1 vote] (AngryPidgeon)

10 players are not voting

: {DeasVail, penguin_alien, PeregrineV, projectmatt, RachMarie, Snork, SnowStorm, ThAdmiral, TheWayItEnds, Yates}

With

14

players alive it takes

8

votes to lynch somebody or to go to night.

RachMarie · Post Post #2704 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:09 am

We have plenty of time and I want to hear from everyone before we speed lynch AP.

AP you broke my heart too

I thought you were town.

Since my only other power is JK and there are far too many scum out there for me to be sure I jailkept the one killing I did not use it. JK would be far more useful when we are down to one scum or I really feel I know who will be doing the killing since it is only a one shot dealie.

Plessiez · Post Post #2705 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:10 am

Locking thread, please stand by.

Plessiez · Post Post #2706 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:19 pm

... and we're back. Thanks for your patience.

Countdown will be adjusted to account for the hours lost.

Plessiez · Post Post #2707 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:26 pm

The revised deadline for the day is 29th April 23:25. That's (expired on 2014-04-29 23:25:58).

Damon_Gant · Post Post #2708 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:48 am

Nobody seems to be speaking. Can we not just lynch AP? He's scum - the ramifications of this can be discussed tomorrow based on what flavour of scum he is. Let snork say his piece and then I think we're good to go.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #2709 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:01 am

Well the easy solution is to have six protect snork tonight. If snork dies six is confscum.

Unless scum have a roleblocker...

Maybe the best plan is for both rach and six to flip a coin on whether to protect snork or not, then the scum are forced to choose whether to shoot snork and potentially waste their shot, or shoot someone else. I dunno, just spitballing.

In any case.

vote: ap

SiX · Post Post #2710 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:05 am

Since RM has jailkeep, I bet if I protect Snork she'll be shot and if I protect RM, Snork will be shot.

Egg · Post Post #2711 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:19 am

Six don't tell us who you are protecting.

But yeah as soon as snork is ready, AP lynch is good.

Yates · Post Post #2712 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:05 am

In post 2708, Damon_Gant wrote:Can we not just lynch AP?

Can we just wait for Snork? We have two weeks and this lynch will go down in less than two HOURS. Plus, like 1/3 of the player base hasn't even posted yet today.

PeregrineV · Post Post #2713 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:11 am

In post 2691, Snork wrote:
PeregrineV wrote: While your at it, double check with mod if 1-shot vigs who have used up all thier shots detect as still having the ability to kill, since they don't, anymore.
Just answered this, PV:
In post 2689, Snork wrote:(at risk of treading thin ice with my role PM - specifies a player who has ever had a gun, so x-shot would not matter).

PV wrote:Also, the way you word this worries me. Are you paraphrasing or assuming?
Why does the wording worry you? Either you believe my claim or not.

Paraphrasing a role PM is an art form I am not talented at

The opening mod post says that their is either a mafia faction, or mafia & werewolf faction, and up to one SK.

If there are basically two mafias, you would hope they have different kill flavors, but the rules of normal games require non-flavored kill types, so all types would show up the same. The wording makes it sound like you may not be able to find a werewolf faction, should they exist.

However, that seems kind of dumb to make a half-cop. Right now, inclined to think a double kill N1 plus an SK.

So, it's not so much about believing your claim, but if we can derive any information from it.

Snork · Post Post #2714 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:14 am

Thread didn't open again until after I went to bed and I'm at work right now (VCA is on laptop at home). But I will try to recreate it here.

P-edit: as far as I was told, my ability is dependent on if the target can kill and if his kill is identified as "shot".

Damon_Gant · Post Post #2715 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:25 am

In post 2712, Yates wrote:
In post 2708, Damon_Gant wrote:Can we not just lynch AP?

Can we just wait for Snork?
We have two weeks and this lynch will go down in less than two HOURS. Plus, like 1/3 of the player base hasn't even posted yet today.

In post 2708, Damon_Gant wrote:Nobody seems to be speaking. Can we not just lynch AP? He's scum - the ramifications of this can be discussed tomorrow based on what flavour of scum he is.
Let snork say his piece and then I think we're good to go.

Yates, you are a serial skimmer. Note the bolded parts. I guess we should wait for everyone to say their bit...

Yates · Post Post #2716 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:38 am

In post 2715, Damon_Gant wrote:Note the bolded parts. I guess we should
wait for everyone to say their bit
...

Sorry. I see why you would think that was directed at you [since I quoted you] but that was a response in general [and more specifically to SiX]. I just wanted to add on the part about how a bunch of people haven't posted today and have yet to react.

penguin_alien · Post Post #2717 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:45 am

Skimmed quickly, but catching up for real now. Will say that Yates has found a secure place in my town reads now though. Was it worth the wait, Yates?

Snork · Post Post #2718 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:55 am

Spoiler: Color Coded VCs

Snork · Post Post #2719 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:55 am

Sorry for the dump - trying to do this while working and not getting caught.

Yates · Post Post #2720 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:57 am

In post 2717, penguin_alien wrote:Was it worth the wait, Yates?

Lol - finally!

Too bad you have found yourself under my microscope after the mastin flip.

Snork · Post Post #2721 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:03 am

*sigh* forgot to color Zdenek and bjc.

penguin_alien · Post Post #2722 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:31 am

In post 2643, Egg wrote:Everyone on the TheWayItEnds wagon gets some scum points because it was the clear counter wagon especially once the Mastin wagon really took off.

From my scum reads yesterday:
-4n is dead and flipped town. I was wrong.
-projectmatt and penguin might still be scum
-I still like Deas scum

AP, why didn't you think Mastin was scum again?

Oh and if it wasn't clear, TheWayItEnds is now my strongest town read.

Vote Deas

Preview edit: yeah if that kill doesn't get claimed, my first instinct is to like Six less.

So you think I might be scum because...really drawing a blank here. You're probably town, so do try to think more rigorously.

Hey, AP, do you actually think there's a snowball's chance in hell I'm scum following the mastin-scum flip? If so, really can't wait to hear the logic on that one.

I'm not convinced SK-aptil would have spontaneously claimed the second kill N1 on the basis of a tiny wagon.

I do think that someone confused about how Friendly Neighbor works killed Nero Cain, and I remember someone being confused on that point today; will find it in this stream of consciousness reread of the day so far.

AP, why did you investigate talah? With a one-shot cop, if talah had lived to D2, would you have outed to clear him with the VT claim? Because that seems super-low utility when you still had a tracker shot in the bag.

This...is not how gunsmith works in normals as far as I know. I hate to give up my pretty Snork town read, but really. Go wiki a role before you fake claim it.

Right, that was SiX being weird about the implications of the FN from RachMarie. Hm. Would love for my scum read on aptil to have been right...confirmation bias is a thing.

Yates...I agree on the mastin scumslip thing with a 4p Mafia, and in a 20p game that likely implies a four-man Mafia with an SK. I tend to think actually that of the four there I was way off on my Snork read and he's Mafia, maybe Mafia Tracker, with an incriminating result on AP that he wants to claim as something else. I guess TWIE could have been a town counterwagon; I need to look at the wagons from yesterday when I have an actual block of time. But...wait, have you played with scum-me? I don't think you have, so I'll excuse you harboring the slightest thought that my approach to mastin yesterday came from my being a buddy of hers. Proceed with the microscopic examination!

But, uh, Yates, take a look at the non-bolded part of the wiki. Snork's claim is looking pretty bad. And yeah, mods might not use the wiki initially, but these games go through a three-member review board to make sure they conform...

I'll read Snork's VC stuff later, out of time now.

penguin_alien · Post Post #2723 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:33 am

In post 2720, Yates wrote:
In post 2717, penguin_alien wrote:Was it worth the wait, Yates?
Lol - finally!

Too bad you have found yourself under my microscope after the mastin flip.

Might as well help you get a jump on this. My thinking mastin was scum for actual reasons/experiential stuff as opposed to everyone who got pissy with her for posting in MD/elsewhere makes my suspicions scummier? Frankly, I had taken a stance, uncertain though it might have been.

This reminds me, didn't someone say they'd have an answer on my alignment today anyways? Maybe I hallucinated that, but I'll check right quick. It was either PV or DV, damn their nearly identical abbreviations.

penguin_alien · Post Post #2724 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:36 am

In post 2387, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2382, Snork wrote:
In post 2080, TheWayItEnds wrote:Opening ThAd wall is A plus wall material. I wasn't liking ThAd day 1 near deadline but this wall is everything I wished it could be and more. ThAd looks waaaaay townier than I thought he was yesterday, considering that he was in my shortlist of lynch candidates at the start of the day. I don't know how I feel about the hard tunnel on RM (I realize how stupid this sounds coming from me, but w/e I'll get to that later). But so far I think he stays off my lynch today pile.
LOOK HOW FLUID THIS IS!

Why the fuck is this even on the table for lynching...
Calling ThAd town doesn't make TWIE town. Saying you like ThAd's posts "because they come from town" doesn't make people town.

I'm holding out on the PA lynch. It will become evident tomorrow.

Right. Go for it.

(triple post FTW...sorry y'all.)