Tales of You (Endgame)

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Who do you think are town?

[MastinSSK]

Oh.
AP's either a derp (town) or lying (scum).

Scum, town, doesn't matter. The name of your game is in your role PM.

Oh, and btw,
VOTE: Clyton,
Even though my own vote doesn't really count.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

so you expected me to make a self-town case??

Not at all. I expected you to be more suspicious of me than to occasionally raise your eyebrow and then go back to whatever it is you're doing in this game. I expected you to make some sort of effort at sorting me.

I thought I understood the source of my misread in vesperia, and thought I had a better handle on his scum game from the other side of the mirror after our recent mini normal win as a hydra.

so basically, magically, vesperia and our last game together only improved your meta with me, and did nothing to my meta with you?

ok dude

[CupcakePanda]

Too pages to sift through last 5 pages wern't particularly informative, gl guys.

[MastinSSK]

Btw, orc could still be scum, but if his role is real (it probably is), then there's probably a different way he needs to die other than via lynch.
'Cause lynching a town player before lynching him would really, really suck.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

so you expected me to make a self-town case??

Not at all. I expected you to be more suspicious of me than to occasionally raise your eyebrow and then go back to whatever it is you're doing in this game. I expected you to make some sort of effort at sorting me.

I thought I understood the source of my misread in vesperia, and thought I had a better handle on his scum game from the other side of the mirror after our recent mini normal win as a hydra.

so basically, magically, vesperia and our last game together only improved your meta with me, and did nothing to my meta with you?

ok dude

Vesperia didn't tell you much about my scum game. You haven't played against scum-me since xenosaga iirc.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

not xenosaga. xenoblade.

[Clyton]

I see. A desperation attempt on me when the deadline is drawing near? I am sorely disappointed.

Catching up now.

[MastinSSK]

4 orcinus_theoriginal
9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling)
11 Lord Business
15 PeregrineV
16 Clyton

At this point, this is my potential lynchlist. You've had commentary on all of 'em, but feel free to ask again.

Note the removal of Fox/Hound. That's not on me; I'm still nullscumming them. But I'm willing to trust the others who have a more positive read, there, 'specially since I can kinda see it now.

So any of the six I see as possible scum.

Note the removal of DesBRO. For the emotional meltdown.

I really do think the scumteam's in here.

I realize this quote is getting a bit too nested, but I really want to emphasize this.
I feel like the scumteam is in there. Heavily feel like it. That within orc, AP, LB, PV, and Clyton, we have all four scum.

Because I'm not seeing the scum outside there. (Okay. So there's one or two players I see, but I'm trusting the townreads of others.)

[The Fox and the Hound]

I don't have time to read, but my thought was that the gladiator thing was a pretty reasonable way for scum to try avoiding a lynch so I'm not sure that I really believe it but I don't have time to think about things and will be back in 30 min to an hour, but there'll probably a whole different wagon by that time so yeah whatever.

[The Fox and the Hound]

Dv again, sorry.

[MastinSSK]

And I really am leaving soon, and won't be back until after the deadline. My vote's not really needed, but I feel like I've spoken my piece.

[BirdAndBeast]

Oh.
AP's either a derp (town) or lying (scum).

Scum, town, doesn't matter. The name of your game is in your role PM.

Oh, and btw,
VOTE: Clyton,
Even though my own vote doesn't really count.

Wagon request: denied

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh.
AP's either a derp (town) or lying (scum).

Scum, town, doesn't matter. The name of your game is in your role PM.

Oh, and btw,
VOTE: Clyton,
Even though my own vote doesn't really count.

Wagon request: denied

oops

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

OK so Nati is fine with claiming

So we're Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker

Our role is basically a modified gladiator

The modifications are as such

At night we can target someone, at day start we'll be told their age and we'll be gladiating them.

If we battle a beast, it's a normal gladiate; no modifications.
If we battle an adult, and win the duel, we can choose whether or not we want to govern the person we gladiate (and the day ends in a no lynch)
If we battle a child, the duel ends with either our lynch or the child hitting L-2 (the game returns to normal if the child hits L-2)

I was planning on keeping the adult part of our role hidden and battling an adult if we ever hit even numbers - ideally, we'd be demanding nobody else hammer until we're ready for it and looking for a time when we're online with the person we gladiated so we can get post-hammer reactions to decide whether or not to govern them - but I don't really care about making this happen anymore and it's a lot more effort than it's worth probably

Anyway, point here is that orcinus's role is almost the inverse of ours, and I'm conflicted about whether Cabd has included both our roles as town roles. Our role doesn't necessarily conflict with orcinus's so this isn't exactly a counter-claim, I just don't really know what to think about his role. Nati says Cabd trolling, but claim anyway

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I see. A desperation attempt on me when the deadline is drawing near? I am sorely disappointed.

Catching up now.

this kinda strikes me as an off reaction somehow. Like it's a crack in the emotionless facade.

[Clyton]

I see. A desperation attempt on me when the deadline is drawing near? I am sorely disappointed.

Catching up now.

this kinda strikes me as an off reaction somehow. Like it's a crack in the emotionless facade.

Oh I'm not hiding it. This is a crack. In these kind of situations, I readjust my approach. I mean, what am I to do against full of people acting on emotion? Logic will not help here unless they regain their senses.

[Clyton]

OK so Nati is fine with claiming

So we're Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker

Our role is basically a modified gladiator

The modifications are as such

At night we can target someone, at day start we'll be told their age and we'll be gladiating them.

If we battle a beast, it's a normal gladiate; no modifications.
If we battle an adult, and win the duel, we can choose whether or not we want to govern the person we gladiate (and the day ends in a no lynch)
If we battle a child, the duel ends with either our lynch or the child hitting L-2 (the game returns to normal if the child hits L-2)

I was planning on keeping the adult part of our role hidden and battling an adult if we ever hit even numbers - ideally, we'd be demanding nobody else hammer until we're ready for it and looking for a time when we're online with the person we gladiated so we can get post-hammer reactions to decide whether or not to govern them - but I don't really care about making this happen anymore and it's a lot more effort than it's worth probably

Anyway, point here is that orcinus's role is almost the inverse of ours, and I'm conflicted about whether Cabd has included both our roles as town roles. Our role doesn't necessarily conflict with orcinus's so this isn't exactly a counter-claim, I just don't really know what to think about his role. Nati says Cabd trolling, but claim anyway

I feel Cabd made the roles to augment another person's similar roles. I forgot who it was, but your rolecop ability and another person's rolecop ability augmented each other. I think these are intentional. The problem is, it is not truly indicative of alignment, so like you said, it would be both town roles or a town role + scum role.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

once you have one of each, scum and town meta are essentially similarly effective in improving your understanding of a player

at least i think so

for my gladiator i don't really want to put up high-profile people...maybe i'll be boring and put up PV and LB

i dunno

Pedit: i swear to fuck if anybody soft-counterclaims in a cabd game i'll have their head

Pedit: are you done catching up

[Clyton]

once you have one of each, scum and town meta are essentially similarly effective in improving your understanding of a player

at least i think so

for my gladiator i don't really want to put up high-profile people...maybe i'll be boring and put up PV and LB

i dunno

Pedit: i swear to fuck if anybody soft-counterclaims in a cabd game i'll have their head

Pedit: are you done catching up

Almost, multi-tasking at the moment with recent posts and reading the ones I haven't read yet. But from what I gathered, I'm not fully understanding this flashwagon on you. I still need time in that regard.

[Just Sheep Us]

i'm so fucking glad we dicked around at the deadline and forced two other people to claim

[Just Sheep Us]

+ whoever you all decide to flashwagon next. looks like clyton.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

JUST

BECAUSE

BRO

DOESN'T

WANT

IT

Vote: Clyton

Will still lynch the ever-living fuck out of PV for great justice

[Just Sheep Us]

what don't you get about "bro isn't here and won't be here for a while"?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I'm thinking nolynch might not be such a bad end to this game day.