MS Fantasy Camp 2: Reaper's Tale! (Finished!)

[Nero Cain]

If Katsuki doesn't ramp up by tomorrow I'm just going to move back to Tim Hortons.

mmmm donuts.

Still don't think Venmar is town but there's no support for him which makes me sad. I agree that I should move my vote (unless I get Venmar support *crosses fingers*) and I'm pretty much ok with all the wagons sans Tim Howard and Reck. So I'll see what happens in the next 30ish hours.

[Shadoweh]

I'm pretty much ok with all the wagons sans Tim Howard and Reck. So I'll see what happens in the next 30ish hours.

[chamber]

These wagons are all so unappealing.

[chamber]

Unvote vote venmar

[Flipping Awesome]

Quick thoughts, more later.
- Plum's response to us felt off, it seemed like appeasement. I'll post more thoughts on Plum soon.
- UT's posts felt town to me. I worked out what Tammy's tell on UT from the Reckoning was but unfortunately that hasn't shown up. Still think he is town.

~ F-16

[Flipping Awesome]

Here's what I found off about Plum:

1) The way she pushed Tim Howard in Post 1046 lacked any sort of passion, conviction or genuineness behind it. Same with her push on Nobody Special which she later retracted. It feels a lot like her pushes in We're on a Boat and very unlike the kind of genuine pushes she makes as town as evidenced by her push on Paschendale in Attack on Titan where it feels like she actually believes what she is saying rather than posting just to post which is what most of her walls in this game feel like.

2) The meandering nature of most of her posts and the lack of forcefulness again mirrors her scumgame. Plum as town is more involved with the game and tries to stay on top of things. Her play here feels like a perpetual catch-up post where she always lets the game unfold and comes in later with a few pro-town looking thoughts. She's never at any point seized the game by the balls and attempted to solve it.

3) I felt like her townread on us and the simultaneous attack on Tim didn't feel natural "

Looking forward to seeing TH cover his ass when F16 reconsiders his scumread on me

" felt more like subtle manipulation.

~ F-16

[Flipping Awesome]

but evidence in this very game shows the contrary.

What were you referring to here?

I can move our vote there. But, I'd much rather be on a wagon that you and F-16 both think are scum if I'm not going to stick with nacho's strongest scum read.

This feels odd coming from you considering we often butt heads in games or at least spend a very massive amount of time hashing out disagreements on reads.
~ F-16

I'd still like it if you would talk about Katsuki wanting to know about PA's read.

Perhaps I was unclear. My townread on him had do with him understanding how I am sorting him as opposed to him asking for PA's read. I didn't make anything off of him wanting to know of PA's read.

Also, check through my links on Plum's meta like you did on me during Wicked and tell me what you see.

~ F-16

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 1, VC 35

Tim Howard - (5):

Zdenek, Katsuki, Plum, kanyeknowsbest, xRECKONERx

Venmar - (3):

Nero Cain

, Untrod Tripod, chamber

Shadoweh - (1):

ChannelDelibird

xRECKONERx - (3):

Lady Lambdadelta, Sixty, Venmar

Plum - (1):

Flipping Awesome

Katsuki - (3):

sangres, Shadoweh, Tim Howard

Not voting - (2):

Cerulean, Nobody Special

With

18

alive it takes

10

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

26th of April at 5pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)

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[Flipping Awesome]

In other news, I'd prob support a Flipping wagon 'cause I'm kind of paranoid about PA who keeps implying that I'm a mild scumread but isn't engaging me at all and when I asked why she wasn't she didn't reply.

I haven't seen anything that explicitly makes me comfortable considering you town. And given that you dismissed my read as me being an idiot, it seems rather futile for me to try to engage you. Also given that you claimed I read you accurately when town myself 0% of the time even though the facts belie such a number, I just really don't feel like doing the dance with you. Given that I have a strong scum read on Plum, I'm OK letting my read on you coalesce based on your interactions with others.

Basically it boils down to me not having the energy or interest to deal with someone predisposed to dismiss me as a fool. Maybe I am, maybe I'm not, but I tend to doubt my ability to have a productive conversation with you either way. And before you get angry at me for not wanting to engage, I'll say that this is entirely a reflection of my own suspected inability to work with you productively rather than an attempt to paint you as the bad guy.

In other news, I agree with my other head that Untrod Tripod is likely town. Less fancy reasoning than F-16, but in discussing our PoE pool, I felt that UT was more connected to the game in a 'trying to figure things out' way than most of the others.

Plum votes are still flipping awesome...

--PA

[Venmar]

Unvote vote venmar

you just made nero stay on my wagon

[chamber]

That was the idea, yeah.

[Venmar]

nero, want to see a magic trick?

vote venmar

observe the next votecount

[Untrod Tripod]

Unvote vote venmar

you just made nero stay on my wagon

I'm sorry are people still entertaining the fool notion that these are town posts?

ffs guys

[Venmar]

you sadden me

[Plum]

Here's what I found off about Plum:

1) The way she pushed Tim Howard in Post 1046 lacked any sort of passion, conviction or genuineness behind it. Same with her push on Nobody Special which she later retracted. It feels a lot like her pushes in We're on a Boat and very unlike the kind of genuine pushes she makes as town as evidenced by her push on Paschendale in Attack on Titan where it feels like she actually believes what she is saying rather than posting just to post which is what most of her walls in this game feel like.

2) The meandering nature of most of her posts and the lack of forcefulness again mirrors her scumgame. Plum as town is more involved with the game and tries to stay on top of things. Her play here feels like a perpetual catch-up post where she always lets the game unfold and comes in later with a few pro-town looking thoughts. She's never at any point seized the game by the balls and attempted to solve it.

3) I felt like her townread on us and the simultaneous attack on Tim didn't feel natural "

Looking forward to seeing TH cover his ass when F16 reconsiders his scumread on me

" felt more like subtle manipulation.

~ F-16

1. When I have as much conviction on anyone here as I did on Pasche in that game, you'll know. Very rarely do scum make themselves quite as transparent to me as he did there. And even then they don't

always

make me rage quite so much.

2. I've had a decent amount of V/LA for Passover and am otherwise in real life more stressed out and busy than usual. This is a huge game full of players with too much regard for their own Personalities. I'm trying here.

3. Tuesday night I had just enough time/energy to skim what had happened in the game over a two-day period. Wednesday night, when I had time to reread properly and post, I had a vague memory that you did reconsider your scumread on me (you did. You didn't reverse it, per se, but my point is that you were and reflective of your read on me, which was based on personal meta [and thence, because it seems honest, I have a moderate but relevant Townread on you], and I don't think TH did, even though his read was based on

your

read, so . . .). It was all a reference to what I remembered you having already done, not a nod or a hope to your future actions.

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 1, VC 36

Tim Howard - (5):

Zdenek, Katsuki, Plum, kanyeknowsbest, xRECKONERx

Venmar - (5):

Nero Cain

, Untrod Tripod, chamber, Venmar, Sheep Majiffy or Thor

Shadoweh - (1):

ChannelDelibird

xRECKONERx - (2):

Lady Lambdadelta, Sixty

Plum - (1):

Flipping Awesome

Katsuki - (3):

sangres, Shadoweh, Tim Howard

Not voting - (2):

Cerulean, Nobody Special

With

18

alive it takes

10

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

26th of April at 5pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)

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Prodding ChannelDelibird

[Nero Cain]

oh neat, Venmar is some type of double voter or something.

Still, I don't see why we shouldn't kill it.

[xRECKONERx]

LLD & Sixty are better lynches.

Still happy with my Tim Howard vote.

[Nero Cain]

What's so townie about Venmar?

[chamber]

He appears to be a double voter when voting with you (thor) or majiffy(unknown?).

[xRECKONERx]

What's so townie about Venmar?

I don't see scum having a double vote?

[Nero Cain]

there are scum double voters, 2014 join date.

[Untrod Tripod]

what there is is some scum protecting their double voter

WE SEE YOU MOTHERFUCKER(S)

PREPARE YOUR NECKS THERE'S ROPE TO GO AROUND

[Untrod Tripod]

jesus christ he parades that out in front of us as if it clears him somehow

reck please tell me you're not going soft with age

we need Reck The Steely. Reck the Rock. Reck the Unbreakable.

[Venmar]

unovote

vote reckoner