Tales of You (Endgame)

[Yulia Jue]

Votecount 2-12

With 14 players alive, it will take 8 votes to lynch or nolynch.


MastinSSK (4): Just Sheep Us, PeregrineV, Yggdra Union, orcinus_theoriginal
Breakfast With Stalin (1): CupcakePanda
Nachomamma8 (3): Red Gyarados, AngryPidgeon, MastinSSK
CupcakePanda (1): The Fox and the Hound
PeregrineV (1): Titan


Not Voting (4): Nachomamma8, Carbon Fiber, Clyton, Breakfast With Stalin

Mod Notes:

With 14 players alive, deadline is set for 15 days: (expired on 2014-05-07 22:26:21)

[Breakfast With Sandy]

My read on JSU is all over the place. It's what inspired the JSU!town wall from falcon. There are some things consistent with his town game such as discussing positionals or at least are consistent with how I've seen him scum hunt and what he talked about in the Wicked dead qt. But there are some things that are off that I can't quite put my finger on, including the melt down, which now I'm bringing up again and it makes me feel like shit to even question if it was real and if it was I'm going to feel like the most horrible person ever, but it conflicts with

I don't have a thought process. I have an inarticulate jumble I'm trying to untangle. I could post walls of paranoia and free association but I don't think this game thread needs it.

You guys can poke at me all you like. I doubt it will speed up what has become a Sisyphean effort at sifting out my thoughts about this game.

[PeregrineV]

Also also pere you're asking questions to look busy, and falcon is asking me questions to understand where I'm coming from.

See the difference?

See the difference..

It's the same question. I asked for the posts that made you think them. Other than your opinion of the player asking them, there is no difference.

[AngryPidgeon]

Actually Belisarius is 90% of the reason I think Stalin is town.

ffery has been non-commital and wishywashy. Beli is actually fairly transparent with his thoughts.

[CarbonFiber]

Cf, it really annoys me that you can just ignore comments and questions directed at you so readily by people who aren't Tammy.

Tammy: Why should PV have you as scum right now??

I think you are scum and don't particularly care whether or not you are on the same page as me.

I see you "refuted" my wall on BRO. Good for you. You have the last word in a debate. That's an advantage. I am not going respond to it again.

I'm still digesting the other stuff in the thread. I'll get to those once I do.

[Titan]

Why is Pie confining himself to the neighborhood? Where is he? He had a decently strong start then zippo.

And you're probably right, I don't really trust your neighborhood.

It feels like wingate mansion when empire had his neighborhood with all scum, but he was shutting down any suspicion on them because they were so town and proactive in the neighborhood. When we came to massclaim Mara even tried to assert that the neighborhood didn't need to claim. It felt like different games were being played there too because their neighborhood was so weirdly played except we only had night talk in the neighborhoods there, so it's probably making it worse here.

[PeregrineV]

Also you're continuing to try to bait me. I hope everyone with a town read on pere takes note of what he's doing.

Baiting you into....answering questions?

For some reason, I cannot feel ashamed.

You should have a pretty good scum read on me by now pere. Why aren't you voting me?

Either your emotionally distraught over a forum mafia game with me from last month and my talking to you (via text on a page) is raising your blood pressure

or

You are caught scum getting pissed I'm even sniffing in your direction.

While I find the first so very unlikely, this is the Interweb and stranger things can be found on it. So, until I completely rule that out, you aren't full-on scum just yet.
Besides, distracting from the Mastin lynch would serve your scum-purpose very well if the 2nd is correct.

So, we'll keep watching you. And waiting.

[Titan]

Cf, it really annoys me that you can just ignore comments and questions directed at you so readily by people who aren't Tammy.

Tammy: Why should PV have you as scum right now??

He shouldn't. I'm town.

I suspect he knows that.

[AngryPidgeon]

Jesus. you wonder why RBD was so pissed off at you, this is why. You are so fucking full of yourself. Its been a great displeasure this game CF.

Go fuck yourself.

[PeregrineV]

@Carbon-

Please ask Titan Tammy what exactly the aspects of the neighborhood does she not trust.

Why is Pie confining himself to the neighborhood? Where is he? He had a decently strong start then zippo.

And you're probably right, I don't really trust your neighborhood.

It feels like wingate mansion when empire had his neighborhood with all scum, but he was shutting down any suspicion on them because they were so town and proactive in the neighborhood. When we came to massclaim Mara even tried to assert that the neighborhood didn't need to claim. It felt like different games were being played there too because their neighborhood was so weirdly played except we only had night talk in the neighborhoods there, so it's probably making it worse here.

[Titan]

Also you're continuing to try to bait me. I hope everyone with a town read on pere takes note of what he's doing.

Baiting you into....answering questions?

For some reason, I cannot feel ashamed.

You should have a pretty good scum read on me by now pere. Why aren't you voting me?

Either your emotionally distraught over a forum mafia game with me from last month and my talking to you (via text on a page) is raising your blood pressure

or

You are caught scum getting pissed I'm even sniffing in your direction.

While I find the first so very unlikely, this is the Interweb and stranger things can be found on it. So, until I completely rule that out, you aren't full-on scum just yet.
Besides, distracting from the Mastin lynch would serve your scum-purpose very well if the 2nd is correct.

So, we'll keep watching you. And waiting.

Yes, the very act of you in particular asking me a question annoys the fuck out of me. I'm not kidding.

I don't like the way you interact with people. I don't like the way you can't seem to be fucked to understand when someone answers a question you ask and act all high and mighty in your response. You can't seem to ever have a conversation. You point out that I didn't say anything about the neighborhood, and when I said I did, you pulled up every mention of the neighborhood. I suppose in your little mind you thought that was an aha gotcha, but it just reminded of how badly I wanted to punch you in board games because you can't actually communicate in a normal fucking manner and you can't understand answers when given. I don't like the way that you act all vague and secretive but expect people to spill everything about you.

So, yes, you annoy me. You asking me questions annoys me. It's mostly your tone and your refusal to listen to answers provided that bugs me. Yes, I'm still annoyed with you from board game. Yes, I already said this. Yes, it's just a game. Yes, I'm still annoyed with you.

Got it? Good.

[Titan]

Also also pere you're asking questions to look busy, and falcon is asking me questions to understand where I'm coming from.

See the difference?

See the difference..

It's the same question. I asked for the posts that made you think them. Other than your opinion of the player asking them, there is no difference.

I'm glad you see the difference.

[CarbonFiber]

Jesus. you wonder why RBD was so pissed off at you, this is why. You are so fucking full of yourself. Its been a great displeasure this game CF.

Go fuck yourself.

I went back and looked to see me interacting with Beli and Ffery quite a lot, and PV as well. I am obviously not interacting with my neighborhood in thread. Most others haven't been active. I was holding off on explaining my Titan townread to PV. The only person I was ignoring is you. And choosing what of Mastin's posts to respond to because I just can't respond to ALL of them.

I'm ignoring you because you are going into a "refute and debate" mode. It doesn't seem like you were genuinely trying to figure out my affiliation or see where I am coming from. You are not handling suspicion in a "reasonable" way. That's part of why I didn't mind interacting with Ffery/Beli because even when I questioned their affiliation, they are still talking about it in a mature way.

I am not going to get into "you misrepped me, you are scum" "no you misrepped me, YOU are scum" type fruitless back and forth with you. If you have anything genuine to talk about and resolve, I am happy to go over it.

[Titan]

If I knew exactly what aspects I didn't trust I'd be outing that already. The game would, ohmygosh, probably make more sense to me if I knew exactly what I didn't trust. I mean gee I'd probably not be complaining that the game is in alternate universes and I didn't know what was real if I knew something. The very act of me knowing nothing and feeling completely lost means I don't know anything exactly. What I trust and what I don't.

I mean, really.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Jesus. you wonder why RBD was so pissed off at you, this is why. You are so fucking full of yourself. Its been a great displeasure this game CF.

Go fuck yourself.

I went back and looked to see me interacting with Beli and Ffery quite a lot, and PV as well. I am obviously not interacting with my neighborhood in thread. Most others haven't been active. I was holding off on explaining my Titan townread to PV. The only person I was ignoring is you. And choosing what of Mastin's posts to respond to because I just can't respond to ALL of them.

I'm ignoring you because you are going into a "refute and debate" mode. It doesn't seem like you were genuinely trying to figure out my affiliation or see where I am coming from. You are not handling suspicion in a "reasonable" way. That's part of why I didn't mind interacting with Ffery/Beli because even when I questioned their affiliation, they are still talking about it in a mature way.

I am not going to get into "you misrepped me, you are scum" "no you misrepped me, YOU are scum" type fruitless back and forth with you. If you have anything genuine to talk about and resolve, I am happy to go over it.

Not to pile on, but there's been a marked difference in your interactions with us vs Titan.

[AngryPidgeon]

I want to hear if anyone has any other thoughts before moving forward.

That's exactly what I was worried would happen with Mastin and AP making a ton of noise but neither getting lynched and lurkertown was deadline lynched instead.

UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Carbon Fiber

Id continue the line of questioning I started about your lack of vote and all that, but I just cant be fucked too. This vote probably wont move before deadline.

P-edit: Except you aren't doing that because I was explicitly trying to be reasonable in my catchup and you flatout ignored my questions that were rather tangible and reasonable just to blow me off and give me some shit about my wallpost that I half took-back after realizing it was in response to Titan talking about Wicked.

[AngryPidgeon]

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[CarbonFiber]

Jesus. you wonder why RBD was so pissed off at you, this is why. You are so fucking full of yourself. Its been a great displeasure this game CF.

Go fuck yourself.

I went back and looked to see me interacting with Beli and Ffery quite a lot, and PV as well. I am obviously not interacting with my neighborhood in thread. Most others haven't been active. I was holding off on explaining my Titan townread to PV. The only person I was ignoring is you. And choosing what of Mastin's posts to respond to because I just can't respond to ALL of them.

I'm ignoring you because you are going into a "refute and debate" mode. It doesn't seem like you were genuinely trying to figure out my affiliation or see where I am coming from. You are not handling suspicion in a "reasonable" way. That's part of why I didn't mind interacting with Ffery/Beli because even when I questioned their affiliation, they are still talking about it in a mature way.

I am not going to get into "you misrepped me, you are scum" "no you misrepped me, YOU are scum" type fruitless back and forth with you. If you have anything genuine to talk about and resolve, I am happy to go over it.

Not to pile on, but there's been a marked difference in your interactions with us vs Titan.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to figure out Titan's affiliation since I wasn't questioning it. Interactions with you are two-fold.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

So, question to thread at large. Anyone else from Tales of Rebirth?

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh also you are scumreading me and mastin and RBD on a connection case that is just bad. And I tried to talk to you about that and that got blown off as well. There is LITERALLY no way mastin or I would be doing this as scum buddies. Literally. And from someone who has apparently been wellread in mastin meta, you should know this.

Your holding back and waiting for something to happen makes no sense given that you are also expressing paranoia that not acting will result in another lurker lynch. That is scummy cogmnitive dissonance.

Your ignoring my questions because "Im scum and you dont care" is scummy and Im over it.

I dont care that literally everyone is misreading you in this game. I dont think Ive accused a single damn person of misrepping anything in this game, so your little tidbit of what an argument with me is like is just a deflection. The only person Ive been having crap arguments with this game is mastin, through no fault of my own. But Ive pretty much given up caring about her for that reason.

P-edit: no, Im not.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Jesus. you wonder why RBD was so pissed off at you, this is why. You are so fucking full of yourself. Its been a great displeasure this game CF.

Go fuck yourself.

I went back and looked to see me interacting with Beli and Ffery quite a lot, and PV as well. I am obviously not interacting with my neighborhood in thread. Most others haven't been active. I was holding off on explaining my Titan townread to PV. The only person I was ignoring is you. And choosing what of Mastin's posts to respond to because I just can't respond to ALL of them.

I'm ignoring you because you are going into a "refute and debate" mode. It doesn't seem like you were genuinely trying to figure out my affiliation or see where I am coming from. You are not handling suspicion in a "reasonable" way. That's part of why I didn't mind interacting with Ffery/Beli because even when I questioned their affiliation, they are still talking about it in a mature way.

I am not going to get into "you misrepped me, you are scum" "no you misrepped me, YOU are scum" type fruitless back and forth with you. If you have anything genuine to talk about and resolve, I am happy to go over it.

Not to pile on, but there's been a marked difference in your interactions with us vs Titan.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to figure out Titan's affiliation since I wasn't questioning it. Interactions with you are two-fold.

Which, if AP is town, makes his observation a reasonable one. There's no one else in the game thread you're that amicable with.

[Titan]

OMIGODS I just caught that "distracting from the mastin lynch" nonsense. Before I got barraged with stupid questions and baiting pere, by you, you know saying I wasn't scumhunting, I was talking to people about dun dun fun MASTIN!!!

See alternate universes. Alternate. Universes.

[AngryPidgeon]

And you trying to get the Vig to out themself does not mesh with you absolute 100% conviction that RBD was/is scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also, if a vig killed Rancid and know their affiliation, it might not be a bad idea to speak up. Just remembered I played a game offsite where there was a janitor vig and only the vig was informed of the target's affiliation.

If anyone does know Rancid's affiliation right now, it would be helpful to reveal.

Im not buying this sentiment.

ESPECIALLY because you believe yourself to have hard CC'd RBD at multiple points both Yesterday and Today:

Also, I obviously was personally involved with the whole cc'ing miller thing so was more certain than someone watching from the outside. I don't know how it looks like from your viewpoint so I want to see where you are coming from.

I got irritated when she defended Rancid even after he was cc'd

[CarbonFiber]

Which, if AP is town, makes his observation a reasonable one. There's no one else in the game thread you're that amicable with.

Maybe. But after that back-and-forth with Bulbazak in that Micro game, I have an aversion towards interacting with players that I can sense will create a lot of noise if interacted with and too little content. But that was a Micro game and I don't care as much about getting into wall wars in smaller games.