With 14 players alive, it will take 8 votes to lynch or nolynch.
MastinSSK (5): Just Sheep Us, PeregrineV, Yggdra Union, magenta_thegreat, CupcakePanda
Nachomamma8 (2): Red Gyarados, MastinSSK
CupcakePanda (1): The Fox and the Hound
PeregrineV (1): Titan
Not Voting (5): Nachomamma8, Carbon Fiber, Clyton, Breakfast With Stalin, AP
Mod Notes:
With 14 players alive, deadline is set for 15 days: (expired on 2014-05-07 22:26:21)
Last edited by Cabd on Sat May 03, 2014 1:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Have retired for good; Life is too busy to have time or energy for mafia. It was fun~
In post 4504, MastinSSK wrote:But when up against Nacho's bullshit, well. I'm kinda losing my shit. Because everything he's saying is flat, hollow, faked, looking good and making sense on the surface, but which, well, I know to be bullshit. Not the best way to describe it, but best wording I can think of.
Ironically, this post screams bullshit.
Ironically, every post of yours screams bullshit, I'm losing my shit in a game for a very, very long time and you know exactly why.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
And it should be obviously bullshit because you're telling me my push on you makes sense and looks good, but is flat and hollow and that's why it pisses you off? You're pissing me off because everything that comes out of your mouth is bullshit and because I have this sense of feeling like shit for shutting down the wagon on you in the first place and because there are legitimately several times in this game where I've thought "mastin scum wouldn't play this fucking low, he has more self respect than that".
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4504, MastinSSK wrote:*points to her post*
She flat-out said she was done interacting with me. At all. Refusing to. Rejecting my points. Not listening to me. You can't get more spit-in-the-face-of-diplomacy than that.
You see small points that ffery is getting bothered with how you're approaching her.
You push deeper.
You see obvious points of ffery getting bothered with how you're approaching her.
You push deeper.
Diplomacy hat falters.
You accuse her of putting her middle finger up to the "spirit of diplomacy".
I know I'm not the only person who sees a massive fucking problem with that.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4504, MastinSSK wrote:Because F-16 is talking to me without her, and DesBRO wasn't townreading her at the time, meaning that'd be useless. I gain nothing from doing it as scum.
yep i'm sure ffery has no sway with anyone bc people aren't townreading her
and i'm sure you're gonna convince falcon you're town on your own
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4504, MastinSSK wrote:Where's me turning against DesBRO, F-16, Titan, or such? I don't "turn against" players scumreading me for the act of scumreading me. (Okay, I do...as scum. Not as town.) I "turn against" players who I had been thinking were town, that show something highly-uncharacteristic of what I was expecting of their towngame. Which most commonly, admittedly, manifests in suspecting me, but it's never the act of suspicion itself. It's how the suspicion is handled.
You don't turn against everyone who scumreads you for scumreading you because that's blatantly obvious, but hell yeah you do it when it makes sense to. You can't turn against Titan because Titan will fucking bury you. You can't turn against F-16 because F-16 will fucking bury you. You can't turn against DesBro because they will fucking bury you.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4505, MastinSSK wrote:You can't hear the pounding. You can't feel the sweat on my hands, as I rest them on my laptop and feel them burning, not from the heat in the atmosphere, but from the rage on here. You can't see it. BUT YOU MOST CERTAINLY CAN SEE THEM ALL THE SAME.
Every so often, I will read your post and then go out into the kitchen and stress-eat.
I ate half a dozen no bake cookies so far and now switched to some nasty shit my girlfriend's roommate so that she can enjoy the cookies that she made in the morning. My heart is beating out of my fucking chest even though it's 7 in the morning and we're supposed to go grocery shopping at 2, and I'd love to sleep but I can't. What am I doing now, mastin?
I'm describing my emotions, I'm not showing them.
This is exactly what I did in Wicked to manipulate Mina.
This is exactly what you're doing to me now.
And it frustrates me as much as it does because I know people are going to read your posts as town because they're relatable and real now that you've described them so vividly. And it frustrates me because every post you make drags you down further and reduces any chance you had of being town to nothing.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4506, MastinSSK wrote:Fair point about me not focusing more on you. I got distracted.
It's funny. Because that point about you not focusing on me was linked with my point about you not reacting as if scum-Nacho just reared its ugly face to you.
And you seem to find this point reasonable, but you don't find the other point reasonable. Why?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4506, MastinSSK wrote:Look at what my posting has been ever since you've come in. Exactly what you're saying, it's been fucking digging into you with a clear goal in mind.
Digging into me?
Who the fuck is on offense here? I am.
Where have you dug into me?
"Nacho, you're confbiased in your read on me!"
"Nacho, your posts feel like bullshit because I know they're bullshit and also they're flat".
THIS is digging. The weak shit I'm tearing through currently is not.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4506, MastinSSK wrote:If this were to be an accurate summary, then it's absolutely bullshit, since there's one thing.
"If this were an accurate summary"? I'm sorry, have you not been reading my posts?
Are you not qualified to judge whether something is an accurate summary or not? Do you think it's an accurate summary?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4506, MastinSSK wrote:why I thought it was scummy should be painfully fucking obvious, because it showed to me an inconsistency in thought pattern that wasn't something I saw coming from town.
Because when town feel particularly paranoid and recognize they're feeling particularly paranoid they don't look for a rock to tether them back to the gamestate? Because normal people feel completely comfortable having legitimately nothing to hold onto?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 4509, MastinSSK wrote:But that? Is increasingly hard to maintain. When literally every fucking button that can be pressed about me. Is being pressed. Nacho's raised quite a few of mine, in fact, and I'm actually surprised that my posting is even remotely at the level of civility it's at right now because of it. (I'm attributing it slightly to my exhaustion, given that it's already 3 am, I started working on this game at...what, 1:30?...and am still not even close to being done.)
Talking about emotions, and not showing them.
You're right, you wouldn't be this civil if you were town. You'd be typing while completely fucking lost, and you'd hate yourself when you're typing but you know you have to get this all out on the page because it would just boil inside of you otherwise. There's no way in hell you could distance yourself so completely from the emotions if you were town like you're doing now. Exhaustion that great would knock you the fuck out, not make you reserved and cordial.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
Generally, throughout this game, you all knew me as analytical and cautious, and that is reflected upon my reads list (the lack of an overall scum on the list should be apparent/pretty much everyone is more town than they are scum at this point). But let me present to you what I truly think: a reads list without any outside influence and purely all in my opinion and personal analysis. I feel this is needed to direct people on what to really look for; the current state of the game is far too stagnant.
Remember, no meta, no influence from other people's reads list. All in my personal opinion.
Perfect Town:
Lord Business
Mac
Strong Town:
Titan
Town:
The Fox and the Hound
Just Sheep Us
nachomamma8
Breakfast With Stalin
Red Gyarados
I watched Titan night one, hoping that scum will be targeting her first. Unfortunately, they chose Mac (my 2nd strongest town read at that time). No one except me visited her that night.
I can tell you that Titan knows two-fifths of my role at this point. Granted, they are not really helpful if this game continues like this because we are all not making much progress to build up upon. This is why I felt there needs to be a push in a specific direction before deadline draws really close.
If none of you can come to an overall agreement by deadline, personally, I would push for a policy lynch on either Mastin, CF or CupcakePanda. A bunch of reasons have been said multiple times already in Day 2 for Mastin and CF; I don't have to repeat it. I am showing a bit of bias towards CP; maybe he's conservative, or maybe he's just threading by. Regardless, I am not particularly fond of his playstyle. But I'm sure CP will eventually step up when the game goes towards a more clearer direction, that I have faith in. Despite the weaktown read on him, if I were to trust the meta info provided, I would put my faith in him being town.
As for my thought on the potential scum team, I would believe one would be in the town pile, two/three in the weaktown pile and one/none in the null pile.
Things to note:
- Remember that Just Sheep Us cannot read me at all. I wouldn't put some faith into his words about me (maybe that can be different for my replacement).
- I believe that RBD is indeed town. Who caused his death is unclear (vig or mafia because of the theory regarding Mac's role and AP's night action).
- Look out for CF if Mastin and AP does flip town. My prediction is that he will stubbornly cling to the fact that RBD is scum and that may cause some potential noise/a potential debate over a fact that should be irrelevant at that future point of the game (you should be still looking for the rest of scum, not delve if RBD was scum or not and confirm if there is 4 or 3 scum remaining [assuming no other scum died]).
- Yggdra Union needs to stop hiding behind that neighbourhood and come out into this main thread so others can see his thoughts on this game.
- Regarding the neighbourhood, I am not 100% confident that it is a townbloc.
