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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:34 pm

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DEAD


1 Lord Business
, who was Kreed Grafyte, Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker, was lynched day one. (Possibility of re-entry into game)

2 Mac
, who was Ricardo Soldato, Town Paranoid Bodyguard, was Killed Night 1 (also rolestops target)

3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha)
, who was Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker was Killed Night 1 (A modified gladiator)
If they battle a beast, it's a normal gladiate; no modifications.
If they battle an adult, and win the duel, they can choose whether or not they want to govern the person they gladiate (and the day ends in a no lynch)
If they battle a child, the duel ends with either their lynch or the child hitting L-2 (the game returns to normal if the child hits L-2)

4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK)
, who was Ruca Milda, Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, was lynched day two (Voteless till LYLO)

5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn)
, who was Tear Grants, Town Evolving JOAT, was killed night two

6 CupcakePanda
, who was Chelsea Torn (female, child), Town Modified Delayer, was lynched Day Three (Has a oneshot magnet ability: target one person during the game and have their actions redirected to him)
N1: Targeted MastinSSK
N2: Delayed AngryPidgeon's action


7 Nachomamma8
, who was Arietta (counts as both Child and Beast), Mafia Wild Child Beastmaster was lynched Day Four. (Alternating commuter-roleblocker)
N1: Likely commuted
N2: Likey used a roleblock
N3: Likely commuted


8 PeregrineV
, who was Yuri Lowell, Town Lone Wolf was killed Night Four. (1X Delayed-Flip Vig)
N1: Killed Rancid Broderick Drake



ALIVE


1 CarbonFiber
- Luke (Tales of The Abyss, Adult, Male), Town Replica (Miller), + Neighborizer
D1: Neighborize Tales of the Abyss (CarbonFiber, Just Sheep Us, Nachomamma8, Yggdra Union)
D2: Neighborize Tales of Xilia (Titan, Penguin Alien)
D3: Neighborize Tales of Rebirth (Stalin)
D4: Neighborize Tales of Vesperia (Magenta, PeregrineV)
D5: Haven't taken an action yet

2 AngryPidgeon
- Calcedny Arcome (Tales of Hearts), Town Lawful Commander - Modified Cop (Submits three names, mafia team selects one to get either replica or not replica on, becomes VT after there are nine or fewer players left in the game). On any one night he can enhance his normal ability. He has an airship called Lianheit and on any one night he can also keep his target in jail overnight in his ship.
N1: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Nacho} no result. (Nacho must have commuted)
N2: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Stalin} - Stalin, Not a Replica
N3: Targeted {Stalin, Magenta, and RG} - "Action Failed" (Also used the jail ability which he knows was used on Stalin)
N4: Targeted {Peregrine, JSU, and RG} - PV, Not a Replica

3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado)
- Van Grants (Tales of the Abyss), Instructor Master (Even Night Tracker). Their ability will fail against replicas.
N2: AP visited Stalin
N4: No result on Penguin

4 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne)
- Milla Maxwell, (Tales of Xilia), Town Determined Warrior (Anti-roleblocker). Had to decide before the game started who she was going to attach herself to and can't change it unless the person chosen first dies.
N0: Chose Nacho
N4: Chose ?????

5 Belisarius
- ????? (Tales of Rebirth, Child), Amnesiac Follower - Follows a player and sends results to another player. Checked with Cabd about whether role has target restrictions that weren't made explicit. And the answer is no, that he would make that sort of restriction known to the player in their role PM.
N1: Followed AP and sends result to CF (CF got a message saying that AP did nothing)
N2: Followed katsuki and sent the results to orcinus. Got back a message from the mod that role explicitly failed on night 2.
N3: Followed DV and sent the results to JSU, but got no report
N4: Followed CF and sent the results where???? No Result/Action Failed

6 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)
- Ragou, (Tales of Vesperia), Town D1 Self-Governor + Pedophilic roleblock/stop.
N1: AngryPidgeon
N2: ?????
N3: ?????
N4: "Who I targeted last night should be pretty fucking obvious at this point and with the revelation of this role, I don't know how you think RG is lying, or why he would be doing so if he was scum."

7 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)


8 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)


9 Penguin_alien


Failed Actions/Roles not working as they should be
:
N2: Katsuki's action failed (if AP is town)
N2: Beli's action failed

N3: AngryPidgeon's action failed
N3: Beli sending a report to JSU wasn't received (although not told if their action failed? I think?)

N4: Beli's action failed
N4: JSU got no result on Penguin

As far as accounting for the failed actions go:
1) We know that Nacho probably roleblocked someone N2.
2) Mafia might have multiple roleblockers.

Gonna fill this up when I find the rest.
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:35 pm

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Actually, Beli was jailed N3 so that's accounted for.
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:24 am

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Desp and I also have a villain character. Alignments were determined before character selection
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:25 am

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In post 895, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 3541, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 3537, Kagura wrote:AP: Your (Actual, no BS) investigate target in your next post with the result you got.
You and I was explicitly told that my role failed.
I don't get this though. What was he told? If his role failed, how would he know that he had targeted Kagura?
Probably told, "You targeted Kagura and it failed?"
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:02 am

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The game DOES make more sense with AP as town. There seem to multiple fucking scumbags among Magenta, Penguin, Fox, and RG. I'd be more inclined to think three of them are scum and one town than two town, two scum because I legitimately can't call any two of them town with any degree of certainty.

That and my role mentions multiple cops. Unless FoxHound or RG claim a third cop, AP and you seem to be it.

I don't care so much if a scum GF wins the game.

AP is probably diagnosed as clinically insane. That will fit with him being town here.

Mastin may be wrong. It is possible.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:17 pm

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7 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)
- Tenebrae (Tales of Symphonia, Beast), a flavor cop. Gets the rolename of a player.
N1: Yggdra Union- evolving fonic JOAT
N2: RG- Artist (no, I have no idea what that is, that's why we're shitty)
N3: CF, we were blocked
N4: PV, guess what? Yeah. Our ability did succeed though since someone asked.


8 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)

9 Penguin_alien
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:19 pm

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Fox Hound can't be roleblocked by children,
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:15 pm

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DEAD


1 Lord Business
was lynched day one.
Name of character: Kreed Grafyte
Role Claim: Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker (Possibility of re-entry into game)
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Hearts

2 Mac
was Killed Night 1
Name of character: Ricardo Soldato
Role Claim: Town Paranoid Bodyguard (also rolestops target)
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Male
Game: Tales Of Innocence

3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha)
was Killed Night 1 (by vig)
Name of character: Sword Dancer
Role Claim: Town Battleseeker (A modified gladiator)
If they battle a beast, it's a normal gladiate; no modifications.
If they battle an adult, and win the duel, they can choose whether or not they want to govern the person they gladiate (and the day ends in a no lynch)
If they battle a child, the duel ends with either their lynch or the child hitting L-2 (the game returns to normal if the child hits L-2)
Age: Beast?
Gender: (unclaimed)
Game: Tales of Symphonia

4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK)
was lynched day two
Name of character: Ruca Milda
Role Claim: Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, Voteless till 9P
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Dual Gender
Game: Tales of Innocence

5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn)
was killed night two
Name of character: Tear Grants
Role Claim: Town Evolving JOAT
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of the Abyss

6 CupcakePanda
was lynched Day Three
Name of character: Chelsea Torn
Role Claim: Town Modified Delayer, (Has a oneshot magnet ability: target one person during the game and have their actions redirected to him). He says "Nag doesn't work on Beasts" in Post . Not sure what that means.
Age: Child
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of Destiny
N1: Targeted MastinSSK
N2: Delayed AngryPidgeon's action


7 Nachomamma8
was lynched Day Four
Name of character: Arietta
Role Claim: Mafia Wild Child Beastmaster (Alternating commuter-roleblocker)
Age: Counts as both Child and Beast
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of The Abyss
N1: Likely commuted
N2: Likey used a roleblock
N3: Likely commuted


8 PeregrineV
was killed Night Four
Name of character: Yuri Lowell
Role Claim: Town Lone Wolf (1X Delayed-Flip Vig)
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Vesperia
N1: Killed Rancid Broderick Drake



ALIVE


1 CarbonFiber

Name of character: Luke
Role Claim: Town Replica (Miller) + Neighborizer
Age: Adult
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of the Abyss
D1: Neighborize Tales of the Abyss (CarbonFiber, Just Sheep Us, Nachomamma8, Yggdra Union)
D2: Neighborize Tales of Xilia (Titan, Penguin Alien)
D3: Neighborize Tales of Rebirth (Stalin)
D4: Neighborize Tales of Vesperia (Magenta, PeregrineV)
D5: Haven't taken an action yet

2 AngryPidgeon

Name of character: Calcedny Arcome
Role Claim: Town Lawful Commander - Modified Cop (Submits three names, mafia team selects one to get either replica or not replica on, becomes VT after there are nine or fewer players left in the game). On any one night he can enhance his normal ability. He has an airship called Lianheit and on any one night he can also keep his target in jail overnight in his ship.
Age: ?????
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Hearts
N1: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Nacho} no result. (Nacho must have commuted)
N2: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Stalin} - Stalin, Not a Replica
N3: Targeted {Stalin, Magenta, and RG} - "Action Failed" (Also used the jail ability which he knows was used on Stalin)
N4: Targeted {Peregrine, JSU, and RG} - PV, Not a Replica

3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado)

Name of character: Van Grants
Role Claim: Instructor Master (Even Night Tracker). Their ability will fail against replicas.
Age: Adult
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of the Abyss
N2: AP visited Stalin
N4: No result on Penguin

4 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne)

Name of character: Milla Maxwell
Role Claim: Town Determined Warrior (Anti-roleblocker). Had to decide before the game started who she was going to attach herself to and can't change it unless the person chosen first dies.
Age: ?????
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of Xilia
N0: Chose Nacho
N4: Chose ?????

5 Belisarius

Name of character: ?????
Role Claim: Amnesiac Follower - Follows a player and sends results to another player. Checked with Cabd about whether role has target restrictions that weren't made explicit. And the answer is no, that he would make that sort of restriction known to the player in their role PM.
Age: Child
Gender: ?????
Game: Tales of Rebirth
N1: Followed AP and sends result to CF (CF got a message saying that AP did nothing)
N2: Followed katsuki and sent the results to orcinus. Got back a message from the mod that role explicitly failed on night 2
N3: Followed DV and sent the results to JSU, but got no report
N4: Followed CF and sent the results where???? No Result/Action Failed

6 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)

Name of character: Ragou
Role Claim: Town D1 Self-Governor + Pedophilic roleblock/stop
Age: ?????
Gender: ?????
Game: Tales of Vesperia
N1: AngryPidgeon
N2: ?????
N3: ?????
N4: "Who I targeted last night should be pretty fucking obvious at this point and with the revelation of this role, I don't know how you think RG is lying, or why he would be doing so if he was scum."

7 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)

Name of character: Tenebrae
Role Claim: Flavor Cop, also **can't be roleblocked by children**
Age: Beast
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Symphonia
N1: Yggdra Union - Evolving Fonic JOAT (no idea why fonic isn't in their flip)
N2: RG - Artist
N3: CF - (they were blocked)
N4: PV - (Ability did succeed)

8 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)


9 Penguin_alien


Failed Actions/Roles not working as they should be
:
N2: Katsuki's action failed (if AP is town)
N2: Beli's action failed

N3: AngryPidgeon's action failed
N3: Beli sending a report to JSU wasn't received (Accounted for by AP jailing Beli)
N3: FoxHound's investigation on CF was blocked

N4: Beli's action failed
N4: JSU got no result on Penguin

As far as accounting for the failed actions go:
1) We know that Nacho probably roleblocked someone N2.
2) Mafia might have multiple roleblockers.

Gonna fill this up when I find the rest.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:02 pm

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Something's not right.

Give me time to think.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:04 pm

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About who?
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:09 pm

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The RG/FoxHound situation.

I'm a bit buzzed and very tired right now, so I can't think it through, but my gut is telling me that this isn't a simple "lol scum got caught out" case.
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:15 pm

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Who do you think is scum there? What do you think of Brian's reaction to my Magenta case?
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:46 pm

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Holy crap! What the heck is Brian doing? Should we just lynch the crap out of RG?
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:46 pm

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The two of us, Fox, Beli, and AP would be sufficient to lynch RG.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:48 pm

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The whole thing feels fake. Do you want to switch over?
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:08 pm

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Do you want to lynch FoxHound then? They could be a scum rolecop and that would basically confirm you and AP as town.
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:42 am

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DEAD

1 Lord Business, who was Kreed Grafyte, Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker, was lynched day one. (Possibility of re-entry back into game)
2 Mac, who was Ricardo Soldato, Town Paranoid Bodyguard, was Killed Night 1 (also rolestops target)
3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha), who was Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker was Killed Night 1 (A modified gladiator)
4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK), who was Ruca Milda, Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, was lynched day two (Voteless till LYLO)
5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn), who was Tear Grants, Town Evolving JOAT, was killed night two
6 CupcakePanda, who was Chelsea Torn, Town Modified Delayer, was lynched Day Three (Has a oneshot magnet ability)

7 Nachomamma8, who was Arietta, Mafia Wild Child Beastmaster was lynched Day Four. (Alternating commuter-roleblocker)

8 PeregrineV, who was Yuri Lowell, Town Lone Wolf was killed Night Four (1X Delayed-Flip Vig)
9 MagentaTheGreat (Orc + Mara), who was Ragou, Town Corrupt Governor was lynched day 5 (Oneshot-Gov, Pedophile roleblock-stopper)


Town
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1 CarbonFiber - Obvtown
2 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne) - Innocent Child
3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado) - Town
4 Belisarius - Town

Leftovers
:
5 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)
6 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)
7 AngryPidgeon
8 Penguin_alien

It is three of RG, Fox, AP, and Penguin. I think Penguin is basically confirmed scum for how she acted on the Magenta wagon.
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:47 am

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OH! I forgot. AP and Fox aren't scum together so RedGyarados is
definitely
scum. If Cabd put in two scum cops and one town cop, I don't even know what to say.

So, Penguin, RedGyarados. One of AP/Fox.
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:48 am

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The problem though is that both AP and Fox have been acting like scum for the entire game.
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:51 am

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Actually, BRO and Desp, here's a FANTASTIC idea. Tomorrow, what we need to do is clear if we are both still alive. We wait for RG to vote Fox and Fox to cross vote and not do anything until then. Once they crossvote. We both vote RG and put him at L-1. That leaves just one person that needs to vote him and RG gets lynched.
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:19 am

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I'm gonna wait for the cross vote for confirm before doing anything. I have a lot of thinking to do this night phase because my gut is turbo-warning me that something's off.
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:24 am

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Me too. I am actually now thinking that Fox are scum so I dunno. Wait for the cross and see what happens.
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:35 pm

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BRO/Desp? What are your thoughts looking like? Who do you want to lynch. Give me your final thoughts in case you are nk'd tonight. I think the next day starts tomorrow.
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:51 am

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Here are my thoughts right now:

My base assumptions have been townAP based on my ability to read him+the investigate, Beli town by investigate from AP, and you town based on the CC.

If that's the case, then 3/4 of {Titan, penguin, RG, FoxHound} are scum.

Now, let's run with the assumptions being correct for now (we'll get into this in a bit). That leaves two points of interest:

1) Is the RG/Foxhound play scum theatre to get one to coast to endgame?

2) Is Tammy actually scum?

As far as the likelihood of both occurring simultaneously, I don't think it's that high. If Tammy's scum, scum are in a really strong position and don't need the scum theatre; they could let both get lynched, let penguin get lynched, and that's the game. Therefore, I think that only one of these is the case, and we need to figure out which because the magenta lynch was our margin of error.

This means that penguin is guaranteed scum (and should be the next LyLo lynch if we get a scum flip on FoxHound or RG tomorrow). That gives me/AP more nights to work if we don't get NK'd (seeming unlikely at this point. I think those are the next two shots).

HOWEVER, we have the issue of "have the assumptions I've been making all game actually been wrong." I'm starting to have doubts on Beli; I didn't like the hammer, and I should have unvoted to prevent it from happening. He could very well be a godfather. There's also the fact that AP could be a godfather, and that can't be completely off the table. Still, I feel better about AP than Beli (not sure about Desp on that one)

The assumption on you is one that I don't think is worth doubting, given the CC to RBD's claim requiring a scum-you to have known that town didn't have a miller, which would require a miller fakeclaim for scum to use at the start of the game (which, if that's what's actually going on, is something I'm going to talk to Cabd about, because giving scum a free gambit of that strength is terrible game design, and I know he's into wonky shit, but he shouldn't be doing stuff that's just bad).
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:06 am

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Okay, Beli is dead so that solves one of our problems.
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