Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Xayzeck]

Like honestly Xay, in what world is TSO scum this game? And don't just tell me because he's voting you, and you know you're town. A) that's unprovable and B) that reason would be shit even if it was. If everyone who voted a town player was scum this game would have been a scum victory by now.

this world

because i've been playing my towngame and he should fucking know that?

the only reason I can see him NOT recognizing my towngame is

well

he's scum

it ends there

[The Necromancers]

... let me just... enjoy this irony for a second...

[The Necromancers]

Mastin and Antihero, why do you refuse to take a stance on Xayzeck?

we think Xay is town, bro

you're conf-biasing pretty hard, by the way

[T S O]

I'd love to hear how you think he's Town, given Xayzeck has just explained his vote using this reasoning:

"I'M TOWN AS OBVIOUS FUCK. TSO DOESN'T GET THAT - BECAUSE HE'S SCUM."

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Neutral

Vote Count

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (0):
ZZZX (0):
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (1): ZZZX
Zdenek (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (1): Saki
The Most Curious Thing (1): PeregrineV
Nachomamma8 (0):
TSO (1): Xayzeck
MafiaSSK (1): Talah
Natirasha (0):
Talah (4): The Necromancers, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Shiny Hydreigon, Zdenek
Xayzeck (5): The Most Curious Thing, TiphaineDeath, TSO, Doublade, MafiaSSK
The Necromancers (2): Natirasha, Aegor
Fear (0):
Jordan_Downey (1): Spring Starflower,
Aegor (2): Dry-fit, Jordan_Downey
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (3): Nachomamma8, RachMarie, Fear

It is day 1. With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday, June 15 at 2:00am EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-06-15 02:00:00).

TiphaineDeath and Talah are V/LA until Monday, June 9.
Fear is V/LA until Wednesday, June 11.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Uhh... no? I take it you aren't a very guts/emotive/relationship type of player, because if you were you would know the difficulty behind making reads on players with said relationship, and how unlikely it is for a read on them to be change

Translation into English please?

VOTE: Necro if I am not already.

In your mind, everyone is a robot with the ability to think. Unfortunately, that isn't how life works

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I am totally ignoring walls this game, by the way especially quote-strip walls

though, why are you so mad, Zed? IDGI

~L

[Aegor]

Uhh... no? I take it you aren't a very guts/emotive/relationship type of player, because if you were you would know the difficulty behind making reads on players with said relationship, and how unlikely it is for a read on them to be change

Translation into English please?

VOTE: Necro if I am not already.

In your mind, everyone is a robot with the ability to think. Unfortunately, that isn't how life works

First, no. And I am sure you recognize the arrogance of simply asserting what other people are thinking. Second, that does not actually address my initial response to your post at all. Your course of action is terrible regardless of mastin's alignment.

[Jordan_Downey]

So, TSO. Do a me favor and read your case again. Why does it suck so hard?

Now read Aegor's ISO and realize all of the actually scummy things Xayzeck has done pale in comparison to him.

About half of your case is nonalignment indicative and the other half is meh.

Now both of you stop being dumb and vote Aegor.

Mastin, either post a case on talah that isn't meta or sheep Antihero. Apparently, other me doesn't follow directions and won't tell you to take your head out of your ass, but there are other scum to find and I'm not feeling the D1 meta lynch.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Ah, TD, I am sorry I short circuited the small grasp of understanding you had but for a moment. I cannot but help myself. I will take another look at Xay here. I felt the read was genuine but will take another look.

[T S O]

why don't you a) make a case on Aegor b) compare Xayzeck's scumminess with Aegor's or c) vote Xayzeck, preferably c.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

So, TSO. Do a me favor and read your case again. Why does it suck so hard?

Now read Aegor's ISO and realize all of the actually scummy things Xayzeck has done pale in comparison to him.

About half of your case is nonalignment indicative and the other half is meh.

Now both of you stop being dumb and vote Aegor.

Mastin, either post a case on talah that isn't meta or sheep Antihero. Apparently, other me doesn't follow directions and won't tell you to take your head out of your ass, but there are other scum to find and I'm not feeling the D1 meta lynch.

I will take a look later as well JD. I come from an alien perspective so I look at things differently.

[talah]

Blah blah, sorta back.

Doublade-caled: If you move your eyes *ever so slightly above your question to me* you'll find the answer already there.

Someone else asked "WTF" regarding the PR claim - Day 1 of large themes are pretty much where I crash and burn if that's going to happen. Unless you think I'm setting up for a fakeclaim, please consider the possibility that I just don't want this to happen today.

Anyway I'll read up a bit better over the next day or two.

[talah]

So... People post in this thread aside from the 170+ posts which the independent heads of the Necro hydra provided in 4-ish days, right?

Vote SSK please? Nati, you've had experience with him, right? Reading him as town? (He's also voting you for scum reading Necro, apparently, and is ignoring basically everything else)

[Dry-fit]

fuck you tso

scum for the third time i'm played with you

Damn. That omgus kind of looked town at first but nope, xay is likely scum.

I'm liking our position at the moment. Good wagons going. talah may actually be town though.

[quote="Spring Starflower[/b]Have you considered the fact that since my read came directly from mastin, it would naturally have decayed the absolute number of 97%?

Yes, but I wanted to phrase the way I asked the question in a way that might get more info out of you. You seem reluctant to explain your position on talah.

[Dry-fit]

quote tags fail.....

[Bulbazak]

Looking for replacements for Natirasha and PeregrineV.

[RachMarie]

oh that sucks

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: TSO

xay's town

[T S O]

that's a shit vote, do your catch-up again.

[T S O]

I actually read that as "Vote: Xay, TSO's town" and I was all happy for approximately 2 seconds.

[Nachomamma8]

I didn't catch up, I didn't need to catch up to see something so incredibly obvious.
You're a better player than a vote like that, hence me guessing you're just LOLtunneling because you're scum and you can yell loud.

[ZZZX]

I didn't catch up, I didn't need to catch up to see something so incredibly obvious.
You're a better player than a vote like that, hence me guessing you're just LOLtunneling because you're scum and you can yell loud.

Just WHO is this post directed to? I cant understand this at all, You town read TSO and then say he is scum here or what is going on here??

[Xayzeck]

You town read TSO

no he doesn't?

[The Necromancers]

Yeah I'm not reading this thread.

Okay. Not reading all the thread deals with the 'comment' bit.

Not the 'say' bit.

(Btw, posting right now without synching up with Anti. Not sure what he's shared or not shared, but one thing is that I do have a few reads I remember placing in the QT but not in here.

Mastin can talk to herself for the rest of Day 1.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand, we get more dissonance, in that talah's expecting to not get me lynched while voting me, yet is refusing to discuss with me, to talk to me. It shows a disconnect, in that a town-talah voting me is either voting me to lynch me (in which case,

talah should be making a case

...yet is flat-out refusing), or voting me to interact with me (in which case...

talah should be talking to me

...yet

is flat-out refusing

).

Talah's vote is just there. Which shows...that talah doesn't really think I'm scum. He's just placing it there to have it be placed there. Which again clashes with the whole "not interacting with me". A town-talah if he truly thought he had caught wind of scuMastin?

Would drive that lynch into the ground

, as he did in 172. Maybe not with the same amount of reckless ~passion~, maybe with enough reserve as to realize when to stop talking, maybe not nearly as strongly as in 172. But talah this game

hasn't pushed AT ALL

. There's a difference between being overly invested in a push and holding absolutely none in it. The former is more likely to come from town no matter how anti-town it may be. The latter typically only comes from town when they're waffling...which talah claims he is not.

All of this from just the current game. All of this without going into talah's meta and realizing that this simply isn't his town approach.

Additionally,

hey talah
you actually going to do something else or is taht part of the bluster too?

Is valid, in that even if talah doesn't want to interact with us...he's done nothing to interact with others, either. No push. No strength. No scumhunting. talah's a frighteningly-good analyzer. And he's a fairly strong orator himself, able to show his thoughts fairly clearly. I knew where he was coming from in 172 not instantly, but fairly quickly, and was able to see that clearly. (Admittedly, was scum, but that's one of the reasons talah wasn't townread; had I been town, I would have.) He's done none of that.

/catching up.