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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:38 pm

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You're calling me scum with what logic?
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:11 pm

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I second both klebian's interrogation and tss's request.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:22 pm

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who is tss????
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:28 am

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I am.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:41 am

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@ Primate: Are you a one-shot vig, or just a regular vig?
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:50 am

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themanhimself wrote:@ Primate: Are you a one-shot vig, or just a regular vig?
Why do you care?

And don't give me no shit about wanting to get the claims sorted, because it's
completely
irrelevant for anything other than your survival until tomorrow. If you want to lecture me as to the right choices then do so, but you're simply fishing for information that is irrelevant for anyone other than someone whos win condition requires them to survive until the end of the day.

Consider this. If I am multi-shot, he has to kill me tonight, or he
will
lose in end game when I kill him, even if he does force two mislynches, as I am confirmed and cannot be lynched. If I am one-shot, he can keep me around over the more dangerous people with abilities, as I am now vanilla.

A townie has
no need
for the info he is asking for. But for an SK, it's win/lose.

I'm a regular vig, with all the implications this has for you.

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@Bertrand. A list? K. For, like, the third time today, I will post it.

Premises
: Our SK is Carol, the psycopathic secretary. Scum would be forced to fake-claim in order to not be suspicious, as I brought the possibilty of Carol as SK up earlier.

Supporting evidence for Premises
: Carol is frequently referred to as a serial killer in the comics. She is generally psycopathic, and is easily a big enough role to be in the game if Phil is in the game too, as he has a much smaller role in the comic. In the comics, Carol becomes the 'secretary with a crossbow' for a series of the cartoons. During this time, she goes about shooting people with a crossbow. IIRC, and I am a major dilbert fan, no other role, at any point, has ever touched a crossbow. If Carol was in the game, she
would
kill via crossbow. Plus we have crossbow kills.

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- New Vig MO on non-SK target. Confirmed as innocent by TMH, who is either lying, or telling the truth, both of which clear me. Good, flavourful role-claim, alice flies of the handle at anything, and is known for her fury when crossed.
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- Dilbert not being in a dilbert game seems silly, so is semi-proven non-carol Thesp confirmed ability. Would SK have unconnected ability? Maybe, but unlikely.
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- Roleblocked by Klebian. Either he was roleblocked when a kill ocurred, meaning he's not the SK, or Klebians lying, meaning he's not the SK. 100% cleared.
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- Dogbert. Second biggest character in the series. Great ideal non-carol. Solid claim. Flavour also pretty much ideal.
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- Weak claim 'elbonian'. For someone unfamiliar with dibert, that's like claiming 'Chinaman'. Supported by the fact there was another Elbonian in the game, but effectively voided by the fact that the other elbonian died before he claimed, revealing the easy claim. Flavourwise, same deal. Claims an ability which is untestable, as all other evils are dead, and a secondary abilty (mason) not supported by the fact that on the role reveals, it was shown that MC was not actually a mason.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:15 am

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If you are a regular vig, then I am basically dead as of right now. With your ultimate unshakeable conviction that am scum, you will kill me tonight. As I know that I will be killed, and that I am pro-town, I now have no choice but to vote for a confirmed townie.
unvote
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I wish that I didn't have to do this, but since I know I am a power role, and can help the town, it is my only option.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:20 am

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themanhimself wrote:If you are a regular vig, then I am basically dead as of right now. With your ultimate unshakeable conviction that am scum, you will kill me tonight. As I know that I will be killed, and that I am pro-town, I now have no choice but to vote for a confirmed townie.
unvote
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I wish that I didn't have to do this, but since I know I am a power role, and can help the town, it is my only option.
Notice how the 'innocent' votes for someone he knows to be confirmed innocent instead of trying to vote off the real SK, which would win us the game today?

If you aren't the SK, your best actions is to create a good case against who you believe is. But you didn't do that. You voted for the person who was going to kill you, knowing that if I don't go today, you're screwed.

Just lynch him already.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:49 am

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Primate wrote:if I don't go today, you're screwed.
Exactly. Not much more I can do. I have already made a request from you that you have not answered. Care to explain?
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:53 am

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themanhimself wrote:
Primate wrote:if I don't go today, you're screwed.
Exactly. Not much more I can do. I have already made a request from you that you have not answered. Care to explain?
Which request is this? The bullet pointed confirm list one? Well, I didn't use bulletpoints, but the list is in #230. If you want to change my opinion of you, you're gonna have to fight the list, which pretty much confirms everyone except you.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:34 am

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What would happen if I hammah TMH and he's not scum?
we'd go to 3 right? better odds?
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:55 am

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blackhawk wrote:What would happen if I hammah TMH and he's not scum?
we'd go to 3 right? better odds?
Well, kinda. I suspect we'd go to four, with no SK kill.

BertrandSK has a better chance of winning if he can force a mislynch based on a missed hit by our roleblocker. KlebianSK could either kill one of the confirmeds, or he could say he hit someone with his abilty and attempt a mislynch that way, I dunno. If TMH goes down innocent, I'll be kinda lost.

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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:08 pm

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Let's do it then.

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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:38 pm

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themanhimself-3 (Primate, klebian, bertrand)
klebian-1 (themanhimself)
Not Voting-1 (blackhawk)

As you surround themanhimself, he frantically tries casting blame on everyone. You all disregard his protests however, and pick him up and toss him out the window. After a sickening THUD, you check his cubicle. Or rather, desk. That's right, themanhimself was
Carol, SK
. The 4 remaining innocent workers head home, happy because since the boss is dead, its a 3 day weekend.
Roles coming up.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:42 pm

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Themanhimself- You are Carol, the boss’s secretary. You are sick of being treated like a doormat, so you’ve decided to KILL EVERYONE IN THE OFFICE! HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Every night, you can PM me the name of someone to kill, and they will be crossbow’d to death. (If you don’t know, don’t ask) Also, if you are on the first half of a lynching vote on someone, you will be at the back of the crowd, so you can escape without being noticed. This will make you unnightkillable that night. You win if you are the only one left in the office, or left with one other townie.

MasterChief- You are An Elbonian, coming to see the new business practices of the company. With those giant hats you wear, you could probably hide a person! Therefore, each night PM me the name of someone, and they will be hidden under your hat that night. If someone tries to kill them, they won be able to find them! But if TWO people try to get your target, they’re done for. You can’t protect yourself. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.

Primate- You are Alice, one of the workers at the company. With your fierce wrath, you can do anything! Even if it means killing someone by stabbing them through the heart with a pen. One night in the game, you can PM me the name of someone, and they will be dead the next morning. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.

Rajrhcpfreak- You are Wally, one of Dilbert’s coworkers. You are a master of stealing things from the company. Each night, you can PM me the name of someone to go steal things from. While you are in their office, you might also find some incriminating clues as well so you can deduce if the person is guilty of some crime….basically a cop. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.

Twito- You are Bob the Dinosaur, wedgie giver extraordinare! One day in the game, you can post Wedgie: ?????, and whoever you choose will be killed! This will also end the day. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.

Neongrey- You are Catbert, the evil HR director! You are evil and greedy, and have decided to join the master scheme. Your mafia cohorts are BabyJesus and vIQles. As the HR director, each night you can give someone a pink slip. They will be so busy packing up their things, they can’t use a night action that night. Of course, eventually they will realize it’s just an evil scheme, but by then it will be too late! You win when the mafia is 50% or more of the town.

Bertrand- You are Dilbert, the star or the comic! You have a secret e-mail account that no one knows about, so each night you can use it to send an e-mail. It must be short, so no one sees you. Each night, you can PM me a name and a 15 word message to send, and they will receive it the next morning. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.

Blackhawk- You are Ratbert, a stupid annoying rodent! Because everyone is so used to ignoring you, you must speak quickly to hold their attention. If any of your posts goes over 25 words, they will stop listening to you (and you will be modkilled). Also, if you stop to take a breath (aka double post) the same thing will happen. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.(MOD NOTE: Had one warning that he did not know about)

Klebian- You are Dogbert, the egomaniac dog. Sometimes you feel the need to beat out the demons of stupidity by whacking people unconscious. Each night, you can PM me someone’s name, and they will be whacked and unable to perform their night action. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.

Thesp- You are Asok the Intern, new to the work force. Since you have telekinesis(read the Wiki), you can hold 1 person in place the entire day. If they can’t move, they cant help lynch someone. If they can’t help lynch, they can’t vote. PM me a name each night to stop from voting. You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone.

BabyJesus- You are The Pointy-Haired Boss, demon to engineers every where. To make more money, you thought of the “brilliant” scheme, and coaxed your partners neongrey and vIQles to help. As the Godfather, you are immune to investigations, and you are in charge of sending me who to kill each night. You win when your mafia is 50% or more of the town.

vIQles- You are Phil, the Prince of Insufficient Light. Your brother, BabyJesus, convinced you and neongrey to help out with his master scheme, and you’ve got a little help: You put Tina the Tech Writer in purgatory for a while this morning for being too brittle, so that’s a great claim for the mafia to use! You win when the mafia is 50% or more of the town.

Night actions next.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:51 pm

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NIGHT 1
Raj checks BabyJesus (innocent)
Baby sends vIQles to kill Mastercheif
Bertrand sends Thesp “I'm Dilbert. Night send 15 word message. Encode role hint first letter sentences maybe. ~bert”
Thesp does nothing
Klebian blocks Twito
Themanhimself kills Baby
Masterchief protects themanhimself
Neongrey blocks Thesp
Primate does nothing

END RESULTS
BabyJesus(godfather) is Crossbow’d
MasterCheif(doc) is stapled to death
Thesp gets an e-mail
Raj gets an innocent on BabyJesus

NIGHT 2
Rajrhcpfreak searches klebian(innocent)
Bert sends “I'm Dilbert. Night send 15 words. Sent Thesp yesterday. Name Food 1st post tomorrow. -bert” To twito
Themanhimself kills twito
vIQles kills Twito
neongrey blocks Bertrand
Primate does nothing
Klebian blocks blackhawk

END RESULTS
Twito(1 shot day-vig) is crossbow’d and stapled to death
Raj gets an innocent on klebian

NIGHT 3
Rajrhcpfreak searches themanhimself(guilty)
Themanhimself kills neongrey
Neongrey blocks blackhawk and kills rajrhcpfreak
Klebian blocks blackhawk
Bertrand misses the deadline
Primate kills rajrhcpfreak

END RESULTS
Rajrhcpfreak is stapled to death and stabbed with a pen
Neongrey is crossbow’d



I decided that I wanted a no vanilla townie game, because all of the Dilbert cast have very strong personalities that i easily came up with roles for. To acoount for that, I gave the SK and Mafia abilities too, as well as have some less-than-helpful townie roles. I also decided to use the Crossbow for Carol even though it would incriminate Carol, because the SK could have claimed Garbageman, Liz, Dilberts Mom, or many other roles. TMH was unlucky because all the obscure roles were killed early, leaving him in a sticky situation. The town was also very lucky, with 2 of 3 scum getting NK's and a easy endgame desicion. I also was hoping for more to happen with the messenger role, but he only got 1 e-mail to go through. I'd like to hear people's thoughts on the messenger role as well.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:15 pm

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RAWR!

Lots of abilities make it hard for the mafia, no matter what. We were helped by cross-kills on this one, though.

I really, really wanted to slap Twito for his stupid, stupid move of day-vigging me out of anger. That decision was beyond terrible. I'm glad everyone else made up for it. I hope Twito learns, and I'm sure he'll do better next time. On the positive side, him not revealing the one-shot nature of his ability worked well, and he drew everyone's fire! ;)

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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:58 am

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Told you guys. :)

No hard feelings, eh, TMH?

We we're lucky with the nightkills, I agree. Still, I don't think we did too badly aside from that, lynching scum 2/3 days.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:00 am

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I wanted to hammah, but winning is good too, even though I really didnt do anything.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:36 pm

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Primate wrote: No hard feelings, eh, TMH?
Of course not. It was a good game, and probably (for d1 and d2) one of my best played. I look forward to a sequel of some sort.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:54 pm

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Actually, I figured he was a one-shot, but I thought we'd do better to get rid of a known townie, since I really wasn't too sure about anyone else's abilities yet.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:45 am

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Primate wrote:Told you guys. :)

No hard feelings, eh, TMH?

We we're lucky with the nightkills, I agree. Still, I don't think we did too badly aside from that, lynching scum 2/3 days.
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