Revolution Mafia (Based on the NBC series) - TOWN WIN

[spruce]

Actually I mixed up Justine Allenford with Edward Truman's girl. Ps I think Truman might be a patriot member if Jack Davis isn't. And I'm really not doubting 1-3-2-9. >_>

That name claim is interesting as she was a patriot at heart, but became a traitor due to a reprogramming thing. She wasnt necessarily on the side that Miles/Charlie/Rachael was on, but she didn't really do anything wrong.

If this is indeed a real claim, we're get it by flip [?], then I'm guessing that the real scum is in someone who has claimed someone important {Aaron, Miles, Charlie}.

Now don't blow a gasket on me like TSO and Mhork have when I've pressured them, but by that logic (and it might just be sound), we've have to include you. You claimed Rachel (mom of the nano) early when you were under no pressure and there was no need to. I think you're Town for other reasons. I'm just sayin'.

[spruce]

Oh yes let's play the guess what you'd have as finalscum game. That can't possibly end poorly

Well it's a thing that Toasty ans you have going for you too - that you didn't hop on the Pere wagon when you had the chance.

[spruce]

I'm just glad T S O finally followed my advice and got off the wagon.

[Lord Mhork]

Your 851 makes me want to take a shower, spruce.

[spruce]

How's your singing voice?

[Majiffy]

Majiffy: theoretically, if a Tracker targets a Commuter, what result would the Tracker get?

No result. Commuters resolve first or near-first in all NAR.

Your 851 makes me want to take a shower, spruce.

Spruce has made me take numerous showers with his posting!

[Majiffy]

Spruce (1): Lord Mhork
PeregrineV (3): PMysterious, ZZZX, Marcrell
Lord Mhork (1): T S O

Not voting: PeregrineV, ToastyToast, Spruce, TurkishVan

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[ToastyToast]

vote:Marcrell

for now

I want to use ZZZX's Vig to attempt to confirm Marcrell.

How exactly does this work? Nothing claimed can actually confirm this. I think keeping roles in mind is important but I don't see how this works.

ZZZX uses vig on Marcrell. If it doesn't work, then multiple scenarios are possible. Roleblocking power could be involved, ZZZX could use a different power, tracker/watcher could be lying...also "confirming" Marcrell's roll wouldn't make him confirmed town. Scum can be bulletproof. I don't really understand what it gets us.

I still think it's likely he's Town, though he's the one who said he'd never submit to our Lie-Detector's request. Not sure Scum would be so bold as to say that in-thread. It's spanking weird though that he and ZZ jumped at forming up the Pere wagon today. And I think even Mhork is ignoring the fact that were I Scum TSO or Pere would be dead today, and there's no way I'd have left Pere dangling at L1 all day - I'd have hammered him with TSO and ZZZX on the wagon, or better yet jumped in when they did and let Marcrell hammer him.

.........the WIFOM in this is terrible. You are being

[ToastyToast]

We're venturing too close to "let's try to outguess the mod!" territory

[spruce]

Spruce has made me take numerous showers with his posting!

You remember that one time you dropped the bar of soap, and you got that look on your face?

[T S O]

...damn, you're right.

Odds are the other scumteam have a Strongman/Roleblocker type role.

Bastards.

[Marcrell]

They might. If they do, I wonder if it goes through BP. I asked Majiffy, he says he'll tell me if I get shot, so I can say that I got shot. If I get hit twice, they either don't have a roleblocker, or used it on somebody else. You can't confirm me through that, but if you bother to track me or watch somebody, I'll never move. If you happen to be town Peregrine, you can watch me tonight, and then we can work with what we get.

Majiffy, if I get shot twice, will you tell me I've been shot twice, or just say I've been shot?

[ZZZX]

Well I am not using my vig unless I think its worth it. I find myself in a high chance of being killed today since I am the strongest role atm and killing me will stop +3 people from being cleared/dealt with

[ZZZX]

My goal is for us to survive to 4 players mylo and we lynch and I can basically roleback/vig the last person i scum read.

[T S O]

unless, of course, scum roleblock you and or/no kill... in which case you lose.

[T S O]

you're not in a high chance of being killed today. you're using your bulletproof tonight, so scum can't kill you.

[Malakittens]

No, I think scum have an ability to dodge a kill. That's what I believe.

[Lord Mhork]

Dodge a kill how? Scum commuters can be a thing can't they?

[PeregrineV]

ZZZX is probably town. His claim fits with his weird question of day2 if I wanted to retract my "guilty". It makes more sense if he has a copping ability himself.

[Malakittens]

Dodge a kill how? Scum commuters can be a thing can't they?

I have seen x-shot commuters and bps for scum.

I really believe at least one of spruce / Marcell is scum from the claim.

I don't see town having three abilities to dodge kills. Scum must have one too that or it's a mafia doc

[PeregrineV]

Alive
3. Marcrell- 2 shot BP claim (has not been shot)
4. Turkish Van (Malakittens + Penguin_Alien)-nurse claim, ZZZX copped innocent
6. ZZZX- JOAT, copped TV
7. PeregrineV- town, watched sala, watched TSO
8. Wake88 Spruce- xshot commmuter
9. ToastyToast VT
10. T S O-VT
12. Lord Mhork-VT
15. PMysterious-tracker- tracked spruce, me n2.

@867

- Maybe, but its hard for them to kill when they are commuting, so maybe in a larger game.

Turkish & ZZZX-

Same scumteam- maybe. Possible but unlikely. Both are claims that would attract otherscumteam attention.
ZZZX town & Turkish scum- Turkish would be GF. Considering we've seen town rolecop and not cop, maybe, but I think rolecop was more for WIFOM (JOAT, Tracker, Watcher), ninja would be counter to PM and I, leaving only 1 cop shot (ZZZX). maybe, but unlikley
ZZZX scum & Turkish town- ZZZX would have to be a scum JOAT who actually checked Turish and got Town back. But, even then the claim would draw othersumteam kill, so high risk little reward.
ZZZX scum#1 & TurkVan scum#2- TurkVan knows ZZZX is scum or gambitting town or TurkVan is GF. Either way, TurkVan needs to get rid of ZZZX. This would make it a poor move on scum ZZZX's part to out TurkVan as town unnecessarily.
ZZZX & TurkVan town- Really leaning towards this because most of the other choices don't really work. They would be bad play for scum, but only because of the 2 scumteams.

This leaves the VTs. If we are not lynching Marcrell, then I prefer one of the VTs be lynched. I can watch PM, he can follow another VT, ZZZX roleblocks the last one, spruce commutes.

[Lord Mhork]

There is no way all these PRs are town though and I'm way more inclined to believe toast town as VT rather than all the PRs. There is too much kill dodging and too much investigation here.

And I still wanna know all the actions made so far. We will definitely catch scum that way

[T S O]

Tracker - spruce n1, PV n2
Watcher - Salamence n1, TSO n2,
JOAT - Innocent on TV, nothing else used
Commuter - no-one knows

[Lord Mhork]

Well I mean what the actual /results/ are. See which results aren't backed up by the facts

[T S O]

The majority of them are backed up.