Newbie 1519 : Murder in the Barracks (Game Over)

Yukari · Post Post #350 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:20 am

↑ burn_209 wrote:
↑ Yukari wrote:
vote: bullish

Not going to lynch claimed pr. Will be interesting to see who gets nked. If some1 else is real doc, prolly best to wait until 2moro to call elmo on bs.

Yukari why did you make this post knowing that the lynch had happened and the day was over? Why would you have taken your vote off Elmo in the first place? He was clearly counter claimed. Would you have rather us sat there and debated for the next 4 days who was the doc between Elmo and Trin? Seems pointless and redundant as we would have been given the answer to who is scum or not the moment Elmo flipped town. I dont know why but this post seems like it was post just for the fact to save face.

We read elmos claim on page 11 and quickposted before reading anything on page 12. In hindsight, it makes sense to quickhammer if you are the doc so you know the claim isn't legit. But then Trin goes and pulls his bulletproof claim stunt, so how did he know elmo wasn't the doc? Answer: he is scum. If he was the doc, he woulda been nk. If he is bulletproof then his claim and surviving the nite makes sense, but how did he know elmo wasnt doc? If he is scum, things make more sense.

vote: trin

burn_209 · Post Post #351 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:16 am

Yukari....trin knew Elmo wasn't the doctor because he was the bulletproof townie. If there is a bulletproof townie there can't be a doctor. Look at the matrix set up. Now take your vote off a confirmed townie

burn_209 · Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:19 am

Aphix what's your reasoning for voting me? I have one for bullish but I'm on my phone right now on lunch and am gonna wait ill I get home.

Bullish · Post Post #353 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:23 am

First I'd clarify that we know for a fact there is a tracker, because there was no JK CC when Trin claimed doc.

↑ Flubbernugget wrote:
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Bullish do you really think the tracker should claim and have that be the end of it? Instead of saying only claim if you have x clears or whatever? I don't like it.

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The tracker should claim if he has tracked 1 other living person because we have 1.5 mislynches left. My post asking the tracker to claim did have a qualifier. I just don't feel like stating the obvious too often.

Bullish · Post Post #354 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:27 am

So everyone has posted but there is no tracker claim? Ok.

VOTE: flubber.

burn_209 · Post Post #355 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:11 am

Why is everyone just voting without explanations? Bullish caught his scum slip and cleared it up. However you forgot that there would be no reason for the JK to cc because the lynch was already reached before trin claimed doc. CCing in twilight does NOTHING but open you up to be the NK. Common sense says wait till the next day to CC but he first thing that happened he next day was Trin claiming BP and saying he wasn't the Doc. So your theory doesn't work. So I ask you HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE IS A TRACKER.

I think you sent in the kill the first night and targeted trin thinking he was the Doc. When the next day started you got the info that the kill had failed...not that you were roleblocked. The only way that kill fails if trin was the doc was if you were roleblocked and you get notified if you were roleblocked. Which means you know there isnt a Jailkeeper, which means you are informed of the set up, which means you are scum! The plan was probably that if one of you was going to be lynched to claim doc and draw the real one out or some kind of power role. It just so happened Trin played it beautifully and fucked you over.

Games over. Bullish is mafia

Yukari · Post Post #356 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:25 am

↑ burn_209 wrote:Yukari....trin knew Elmo wasn't the doctor because he was the bulletproof townie. If there is a bulletproof townie there can't be a doctor. Look at the matrix set up. Now take your vote off a confirmed townie

Hmm.. ok then, matrix is confusing.

unvote

Flubbernugget · Post Post #357 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:34 am

I'm buying Burn's catch.

vote Bullish

Bullish · Post Post #358 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:46 am

↑ burn_209 wrote:Why is everyone just voting without explanations? Bullish caught his scum slip and cleared it up. However you forgot that there would be no reason for the JK to cc because the lynch was already reached before trin claimed doc. CCing in twilight does NOTHING but open you up to be the NK. Common sense says wait till the next day to CC but he first thing that happened he next day was Trin claiming BP and saying he wasn't the Doc. So your theory doesn't work. So I ask you HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE IS A TRACKER.

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Burn.. You can logic better than I can. But I'm still town.

In my defense, here's the post I made after Trin outed that stated there could be a JK:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6027628

I had actually thought of what you said at that moment, but forgot.

You'll notice that I thought math was tracker for a brief moment:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p6027704

The thought that there was a tracker stuck in my head when math didn't flip scum.

Also answer me this: why isn't Trin dead?

Bullish · Post Post #359 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:48 am

↑ Bullish wrote:
↑ mathbandit wrote:
↑ mathbandit wrote:Though in hindsight, I think any logic might just be wasted on you.

Yup. I think I'm done trying to reason with you.

You're right. I am the pinnacle of rationality, and having a 3-year old scumbag lecture a logician is quite pointless and a waste of energy, not to mention patronizingly insulting.

Just ignore this shyt.

Trinitago · Post Post #360 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:55 am

Simple, scum are expecting JK.

burn_209 · Post Post #361 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:03 am

↑ Trinitago wrote:Simple, scum are expecting JK.

No it's the opposite. Scum are expecting tracker

Trinitago · Post Post #362 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:21 am

↑ burn_209 wrote:
↑ Trinitago wrote:Simple, scum are expecting JK.

No it's the opposite. Scum are expecting tracker

Idk why im alive if theres a tracker.

Bullish · Post Post #363 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:07 pm

What Trinitago said. Pls don't lynch me.

burn_209 · Post Post #364 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:44 pm

↑ Trinitago wrote:
↑ burn_209 wrote:
↑ Trinitago wrote:Simple, scum are expecting JK.

No it's the opposite. Scum are expecting tracker

Idk why im alive if theres a tracker.

Because you are a one shot bulletproof. Once you are targeted you are useless and become a vanilla townie. So they chose to kill the better player in singer, no offense. There being a tracker has nothing to do with whether why you are alive or not. It's inconsequential.

GET IT TOGETHER GUYS!

Juls · Post Post #365 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:16 pm

Official Vote Count

[L-2] Bullish (burn_209, Flubbernugget)

[L-3] burn_209 (aphix)

[L-3] Flubbernugget (Bullish)

[L-4] Yukari ()

[L-4] Trinitago ()

[L-4] aphix ()

Not Voting :

Yukari, Trinitago

Votes needed for lynch :

4

Deadline for Day 2:

(expired on 2014-08-05 06:30:00)

Bullish · Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:23 am

↑ burn_209 wrote:
↑ Trinitago wrote:
↑ burn_209 wrote:
↑ Trinitago wrote:Simple, scum are expecting JK.

No it's the opposite. Scum are expecting tracker

Idk why im alive if theres a tracker.

Because you are a one shot bulletproof. Once you are targeted you are useless and become a vanilla townie. So they chose to kill the better player in singer, no offense. There being a tracker has nothing to do with whether why you are alive or not. It's inconsequential.

GET IT TOGETHER GUYS!

But he's confirmed. Singer wasn't confirmed. With a low number of players it's better to kill confirmed town than slightly better players.

burn_209 · Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:57 am

Singer was confirmed the second azn flipped scum. It was a general consensus he was town anyway which is the whole point of lunching confirmed townies

Yukari · Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:35 am

vote: bullish

Got to lynch some1 might as well be bullish. We've been suspicious of him since d1 and burns case makes sense.
L-1

Any last words bullish?

burn_209 · Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:09 am

Someone pleas put intent to hammer before you do it

aphix · Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:15 pm

Your play so far today is exactly why I vote you Burn.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:18 pm

What about his play don't you like?

burn_209 · Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:42 pm

↑ aphix wrote:Your play so far today is exactly why I vote you Burn.

You voted for me right after I made my first post lol. How was that telling of anything?

Bullish · Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:05 pm

Burn, what was your original reason for voting me?

Bullish · Post Post #374 (ISO) » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:26 am

↑ burn_209 wrote:Singer was confirmed the second azn flipped scum. It was a general consensus he was town anyway which is the whole point of lunching confirmed townies

Singer was not necessarily confirmed when Elmo flipped. You'll notice that Singer went after Elmo in as much as Elmo went after me (as far as inactivity factors in). Elmo's entire catch up post was essentially dedicated to wanting to lynch me. Now direct your attention to this post. This was the most damning post singer made against Elmo. Does this mean if I was lynched and flipped scum, like you think I would, Elmo would have been confirmed?

So long as we're talking about singer, he also town read me in this post [Ctrl + F "Bullish was one of the town reads"]. He reiterated later that aphix and I were his biggest town reads. In this post, singer produced almost the EXACT same lynch order as I did. Why do you think that I as scum would want to kill singer, a "confirmed town" who is the only one strongly town reading me?

Bullish = town.

Seriously now, how many people here thought, if only for one moment, that Trin's gambit was risking a JK CC?

A general consensus isn't nearly enough as a confirmation, because the fact that he might be scum still can be brought up as a weapon by scum. Trin on the other hand, is 100% confirmed. Singer would have been the next best Nk target after the actual confirmed townie.

We SHOULD be lynching flubber or Yuakri. Just have the JK roleblock me, and if there's no kill tomorrow, kill me.