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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:34 am

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Jake from State Farm wrote:
farside22 wrote:You know unlike jake who voted me after his 100% scum shos read.

when you tried to coordinate a quick lynch in lylo you became scum #1. That's why I voted you over shos.

Townies don't try and coordinate quick lynches in lylo.


Yeah I know I have ADD issues but you not reading things correctly doesn't have an excuse.
I was not coordinating a quick lynch. Thinking that makes you look bad.
I was verify groups. Before I even posted victor, shos, you and I had posted after snot's not. That completely rules the 4 of us scum together.
Did you think that far?
No and apparently all you read with my point on capt was blah lurking.
So please go fuck your moral grandstanding I made more then that as my point.
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:18 am

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VC 4.05Captain Corporal[4]- Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Kthxbye, VictorDeAngelo, shos (LYNCH)
farside22[1]- Jake from State Farm
Jake from State Farm[0]-
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Not Voting – Captain Corporal, farside22

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:23 am

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Captain Corporal has been lynched on Day 4. He was
Jerry Springer, Vanilla Townie.


The mafia team of Kthxbye, shos, and VictorDeAngelo (all Mafia Goons) has prevailed.

Thanks for playing! :cool:

Mafia PT

Dead PT

Mason PT

Mafia:

VictorDeAngelo (replaced DeasVail) – Mafia Goon – Frau Farbissina
Kthxbye – Mafia Goon - Fat Bastard
shos – Mafia Goon - Mr. Bigglesworth

VT's (Foxy Citizens):

Jake from State Farm – Alotta Fagina
Scarab - Austin Powers
Nazarene – Mini-Me
farside22 – Scott Evil
Captain Corporal (replaced tn5421) – Jerry Springer
Konowa - Unibrau
ProHawk – Number Two

Power Roles:

Sharpest-knife-on-tree – Day 3 Watcher/Tracker – Foxxy Cleopatra
ShadedMelee (replaced Shrumz) – Day 2 Watcher/Tracker – Dr. Evil
Psyche (replaced BipolarChemist) – masonizer (weak neighborizer) – Ivana Humpalot

Night 1:

Psyche masonizes Scarab.
VictorDeAngelo kills Konowa.

Night 2:

Kthxbye kills Scarab.

Night 3:

Sharpest-knife-on-tree tracks Jake from State Farm.
shos kills ProHawk.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:45 am

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Read the dead topic.
Thanks guys. Glad that seeing a town pr still alive makes someone town.
Glad no one would point out jake had seen pr's claimed day 1 and still alive is okay.
Did I scum read jake, yup. Did I scum read capt, yup, can you say without the spoiler you 'd wonder why he didn't do more during the game.
How many players call jakes play crap and even the scum utilized that, at least I asked questions.
You want me to self vote as town because I was wrong, naz, tell me what town would?
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:12 am

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GG all.

VGG scum team with our flawless victory!!!!
If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:16 am

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Tier Shift wrote:
"Killing scarab looks like a bad plan for scum."

I respectfully disagree
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:16 am

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I don't see why Farside is getting stick today. She was the one active townie that didn't lay down a town on town vote in lylo. Once skot and Jake had voted there wasn't really anything she could do.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:20 am

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I highly advise to read the scum QT to see our take on the happenings.

very good game, thanks for modding PN! what brought you the idea of daytalk vs such a town? how did you guy(s) balance the setup?

psych: if you weren't 1-shot - why didn't you masonize N2 with crumbs? you're basically a copper, so what if you die for one scum?


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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:22 am

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Because jake right is better then voting a town player in lylo and not claiming in lylo is apparently town too.

Oh and the first person to post a link were scum coordinated a mislynch in game, please let me know. I personally never seen it.
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:24 am

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TS also wrote:
"Scum are definitely not going for a perfect win. Why, I don't see. Bussing is overrated."
"Omg they are going for the most stupid total crossbus of all times.."
"Scum are so obvious"

I disagree with this as well. If town listened to Jake, the bussing was needed. The fact I did it all game pretty much ensured our win. Also, scum are so obvious when you read the spoilers and know who the scum are... :roll:

Pro wrote:
"It's interesting to see kthx take the role as town-leader after the leaders are gone."
Meh, I just have a life outside of MS and can't have my phone on me at work. I would have been seen as such earlier but damn, so many posts....
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:27 am

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oh you WERE one shot...

dead PT is interesting, lol. it seems everybody could put the finger on me(and some on my mates too) but nobody could actually do the voting and casing.

LOL @ kthx post I'm not there yet in th e PT XD

I have to say that a good strategy that we used was to wait when days started to see town post and see how they are oriented, and only then decide if bussing is needed or everything is cool.
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:35 am

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well.
this is fucked up x)

guys, being right is not enough, you also have to be able to convince others. unless you're a dayvig.
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:09 am

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i don't like this experience of disliking people intensely
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:43 am

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farside22 wrote:
You want me to self vote as town because I was wrong, naz, tell me what town would?

Town would not agree to 1-1 with someone else without an ace in the hole (guilty verdict, etc.).
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:50 am

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shos wrote:guys, being right is not enough, you also have to be able to convince others. unless you're a dayvig

correct, and I failed at that.

I was not coordinating a quick lynch.

it honestly looked like that is what you were doing to me.

Did you think that far?

No I didn't because what you were trying to do literally made no sense to me. Just cause a quick lynch doesn't happen doesn't mean that all the people posting are automatically town - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p6035299 (Town was Bins, scum was Thesp/Honeybee who could have hammered and won. Game didn't end til 5 pages later)

No and apparently all you read with my point on capt was blah lurking.

because that is ultimately what it felt like to me. But you ignored my case on shos so you really can't criticize me if you are guilty of the same thing.

How many players call jakes play crap

yeah lots of people insulted me, that's a great way to get a player to play better right?

You want me to self vote as town because I was wrong, naz, tell me what town would?

You totally missed the point on this one. You have to realize i say a lot of things to generate reactions. I wasn't actually expecting you to self vote but I was expecting you to actually acknowledge the 1 v 1 and tell the rest of town that you realize that you won't blame people for lynching you. That is actually the honorable and towny thing to do. had you done that I probably would have town read you. Don't offer a 1 v 1 if you aren't fully prepared for the worse outcome. I am a man of my word when it comes to stuff like that, had that happened to me and I was wrong, I would have told people to go ahead and vote me being a man of my word.


VictorDeAngelo wrote:I don't see why Farside is getting stick today. She was the one active townie that didn't lay down a town on town vote in lylo. Once skot and Jake had voted there wasn't really anything she could do.

she was basically cheerleading a CC wagon and wasn't really doing anything productive imo. The moment she made those comments, I was 100% sure she wasn't town. Town doesn't ask people to vote someone that they aren't voting themselves. Town doesn't try to put a player at L-2 to prove that another player is scum.


@ psyche
I don't think the jake abuse was bad at all.

It was bad. especially since it was basically the straw the broke the camel's back. People insult me in almost every single game I play, all because i am confident in who I think is scum and I don't waiver. Well guess what happens when i do waiver? fucking naz and you got lynched AND I get insulted even more to boot.

I don't like it when someone says "I will make you guys hate this game until you give me what I want"

it's called an idle threat. Also had you actually given me what I wanted we would have lynched scum... You didn't even respond to the reasons why shos was scum, nobody did. You just ignored me and that is 10x worse.

He wanted to lynch farside for saying "i'd bet my life that aegor is scum". Because farside was "lying". I mean, come on.

You realize that is how a 1 v 1 works right? Does anyone have honor and integrity? :facepalm:

I am avoiding every game with him ever.


don't have to worry about that. Between all of the insults I have received this game(plus others before thisone) you won't have to worry about me for a while. I play to have fun, I don't play to be insulted and have people encourage other players to ignore me.

I'm sorry that my playstyle is abrasive, I am just confident in myself and only myself and unless somebody makes a really good case for somebody else (which nobody did this game) I tend to stick to my own reads.


It's been real folks.
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Things I've learned.
1. It's just a game, have fun.
2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:52 am

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Aegor wrote:
farside22 wrote:
You want me to self vote as town because I was wrong, naz, tell me what town would?

Town would not agree to 1-1 with someone else without an ace in the hole (guilty verdict, etc.).


Buzz that is incorrect.

You accused me of a 180 degree change of read. End of day 1 I stated agreement with your view of pro, so no change there. You went lurking to active for explaining my scum reads as scummy because? No seriously tell me the sense that makes?
I asked repeatedly why I was accused of being scum justify my vote when you 2 asked me why I was voting? I mean seriously the logic of calling a player scum based on reading the game. Figuring things out, changing fucking reads, like tier has done multiple games and that's a scum tell?
No, not just no bit read as trying to makes case up.
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:57 am

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@jake: saying hey I fucked up I understand if people want to lynch me feels to me willing to fall on my sword for town mislynch. Scum would say let's go as well as town.
I go with scum hunting first, humility second.
That's not scummy.

I not sure what pysche said that was over the top abusive towards jake but self voting, not town.
I felt like when I posted a case or anyone posted a case no one read any of it in this game
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:04 am

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farside22 wrote:Buzz that is incorrect.

Wrong. 1-1 means 1-1. You should not make promises you are unwilling to keep.

You accused me of a 180 degree change of read.

Which was true.

End of day 1 I stated agreement with your view of pro, so no change there.

Trajectory was non-existent, as I said.

You went lurking to active for explaining my scum reads as scummy because? No seriously tell me the sense that makes?

Read my case, beyotch.

I asked repeatedly why I was accused of being scum justify my vote when you 2 asked me why I was voting?

I never called you scum for that. You did not read my posts.

I mean seriously the logic of calling a player scum based on reading the game.

I never said that. You did not read my posts.

Figuring things out, changing fucking reads, like tier has done multiple games and that's a scum tell?

I never said that. You did not read my posts.

And changing your reads ended up working out awesome for you, given that you were on every single mislynch except lylo.

I look forward to not having to deal with your illiteracy in the future.
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:08 am

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I play to have fun, I don't play to be insulted and have people encourage other players to ignore me.


if this game was an example of you playing to have fun, then you are incredibly sadistic
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:14 am

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it's called an idle threat


you made it over and over again and then acted on it

You realize that is how a 1 v 1 works right? Does anyone have honor and integrity?


It's a game of mafia, not a 17th century duel.
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:20 am

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Don't get me wrong. I'm very remorseful for how I treated you, but I did try very hard to be sensitive and measured and constructive with respect to you. I tried explaining, strategizing, reasoning, apologizing about the situation. And then you just upped the aggro. Still, I should have pursued a more aggressively pacifistic strategy with you much sooner than I actually tried.

But really, I think that the worst thing about this game is that you've found a new way to avoid making any serious changes to how you deal with other people in a mafia game.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:57 am

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This game taught me to lynch players like Victor out of the box. Enuf said.

FTR he should have been lynched D2. Psyche was just such a shiny pearl of stick that I couldn't resist D3. :)
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:12 am

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I'm just proud of myself that I was able to see around Naz and not lynch him, nor go after farside. If only I could have seen Shos...
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:13 am

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I guess props to scum for getting a flawless victory, BUT when you bus your own team and STILL get a flawless victory, you gotta know something is wrong with that picture... lol.
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:25 am

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ProHawk wrote:I guess props to scum for getting a flawless victory, BUT when you bus your own team and STILL get a flawless victory, you gotta know something is wrong with that picture... lol.
we haven't started bussing yet you know >_> all we did is distance so far.

Psyche wrote:
You realize that is how a 1 v 1 works right? Does anyone have honor and integrity?


It's a game of mafia, not a 17th century duel.

This. you play to your win condition. if you say I'm 100% sure he is town, and even if you say 1v1, and he flips town, you should not let yourself be lynched because you know you are town and that is PLAYING AGAINST YOUR WIN CONDITION. regardless of any 'promises' you made supposedly. you play to your win condition. it's like when people promise a case and never get it? like naz's case on prohawk D1? it's not real.
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