Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[Csareo]

@Farside, what is a null tell? Is that even possible?

[Csareo]

@Anatole, how come you have 47 posts compared to farside and mattP's 28?
You're cluttering this forum.

[Flubbernugget]

There is a dumbass in our midst, and he's here to troll
I would not mind policy lynching this asshole. He'll say stupid shit that will get him scum read and we'll spend 5 pages arguing about whether that is just his meta.
I can confirm that flubber's meta is to act like a douchebag.

Only 4 u bby <3

How about this bandwagon on me sweetheart? I need to crumble. For me? Please?

Come on. You can't policy lynch me if you don't vote for me.

[Ki-Gi]

Neither of you should make it to LyLo (assuming we make it that far) IMO

[Anatole Kuragin]

This maybe a mess.
Phone posting is not my best ability.

I bring up this question because Anatole stated that matts vote on nugget was a null tell.
It obviously bother Anatole or this question to Matt was pointless.

To try and better understand the wagon.

He voted the same person I did

When I did it you decided I wasn't town

But when he did it your stance is that his wagon is a bad wagon

I don't understand the cause of the discrepancy, and I don't see how your question gains you insight into the legitimacy of the wagon

Why did you vote him?

This is a gotcha moment to point out something scummy about ki in my view that ki never stated an issue with the placement of the vote.

Ki-Gi, do you think it's likely that scum would drop a second-vote-on-wagon vote without explanation like that?

I don't think it's likely, no. Which is why I especially don't like Flubber's wagon.

You said you don't think it's likely that scum would drop the second vote on a wagon without explanation, which is what Matt did.

VOTE: Anatole

Matt: some of ki's post come off a bit vi. I maybe wrong but typically i see town concerned with quick wagon's more then scum.

*scoff's at myko brah tell*
Myko: how many scum you got with language tells?

This question looks like something I asked myko see above and below.
Not sure why the mimicry was necessary.

farside, how many scum have you got with random, completely unqualified and unexplained votes?

farside, how many scum have you got with random, completely unqualified and unexplained votes?

My vote is not random or a shock I would say.

But please keep asking pointless questions that give you no alignment info.

It's not pointless - you still haven't explained why you are voting for me. Why are you trying to avoid explaining the vote?

This statement is pretty false. I pretty bluntly stated his questions were pointless. Acting like I'm avoiding response although I stated that I'd put the quotes of questions in this thread.

Farside, If you were town you should welcome the opportunity to explain scumreads or perceived motives - not just ignore the chance to reason out a possible wagon as a gotcha for a point that is irrelevant.

Still whining despite my response to other question I've awnsered.
Basically again pointless.

I just find it weird that you're willing to drop an apparently serious vote with intention to make a case later, rather than the logical order of making a case first.

I'm busy right now but I've been keeping an eye on the thread and I think you're wasting time and harming town with your vindictive tone towards farside, Anatole. Maybe this is a time for self reflection and a drop of humility, even if she is being aggressive towards you

Why shouldn't I question her voting without explanation?

Why didn't you ask reck about his vote?

I'm busy right now but I've been keeping an eye on the thread and I think you're wasting time and harming town with your vindictive tone towards farside, Anatole. Maybe this is a time for self reflection and a drop of humility, even if she is being aggressive towards you

Why shouldn't I question her voting without explanation?

When I read through your posts regardless of content they came off as vindictive. I care much less about what you are doing in your posts. Do you currently believe that farside is even scummy?

Pursuing a case without any reasoning at all, discouraging questioning players and their motives are the scummiest traits that have been displayed so far. I'm trying to let her explain why she's playing like this before I make up my mind.

More pointless whining, at this point I think I've stated 3 times there'd be a case coming.

Basically at this point it reads as though Anatole isn't reading my post or purposely trying to make it that I'm the bad guy for not putting a case out right off the bat, which isn't scummy and is bs.


Next are these 2 comment.
First he states they hashed things out.

I corrected myself later to say that I think in some cases (not all) that an unexplained second-vote-on-wagon is not a scum action. That's all.

I think farside's logic is terrible but I don't see how that makes her scum.

I understand that, KiGi and it's one of the reasons I'm not still trying to argue anything about that quote with you. Farside on the other hand, is trying to make it seem scummy even though the two people involved with the question are past it.

I'm not sure on Ki-Gi yet.

But doesn't have a read and doesn't appear to try to understand ki's POV.

I feel like pointing out for the umpteenth time ki's issue with Matt had nothing to do with wagon placement and acting like it was is scummy to me.

Too many players ask leading questions that give too much away, give scum an out in answering, or assume an answer from the beginning. None of these are particularly useful when trying to understand players' motivations. I'd rather just ask you guys what you were/are thinking. I'm not trying to look "important" whatever that means - I'm trying to piece together reads and you and farside are being particularly reluctant in response.

This is pretty much an exaggeration. The only thing I never explain in full was why I was scum reading Anatole but I've awnsered everything else asked.

Oh and my final evidence that Anatole seems to be asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Why are you putting the burden on everyone else to generate content, Csareo?

Beli, what do you mean?

Not even close to what csareo was saying in his post.

Wait, are you still going to make a case? Or is this poor, inaccurate summary of my posts supposed to be it?

Why are you using that question to beli as "evidence"?

You say I'm not reading your posts intentionally as if they aren't more or less all muddled indecipherable gibberish.

I don't give a shit about reck's vote. He's just being reck. It'll probably change in his first post tomorrow morning.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Look up guys

There is a dumbass in our midst, and he's here to troll
I would not mind policy lynching this asshole. He'll say stupid shit that will get him scum read and we'll spend 5 pages arguing about whether that is just his meta.
I can confirm that flubber's meta is to act like a douchebag.

VOTE: carstereo

[Csareo]

Look up guys

There is a dumbass in our midst, and he's here to troll
I would not mind policy lynching this asshole. He'll say stupid shit that will get him scum read and we'll spend 5 pages arguing about whether that is just his meta.
I can confirm that flubber's meta is to act like a douchebag.

VOTE: carstereo

It is page 8. We aren't in RVS anymore.
Where's your vote justification?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Nothing random about that vote and you know it.

[Csareo]

Note, anatole has voted for me without justification (on page 8) and refused to have answered my question.
Vote was provocation through intentional misspelling of my name.

I hope you are reaction testing, because if you aren't, then my scum read is through the roof.

[Csareo]

Nothing random about that vote and you know it.

Then give your justification.

[Csareo]

You have 5 minutes to give me your justification.
Odd how you disappear like that.

[Flubbernugget]

The unfortunate thing is that this really isn't a scum read on him. -__-

[Csareo]

The unfortunate thing is that this really isn't a scum read on him. -__-

Come again nefarious troll?

[Ki-Gi]

Can we double-policy-lynch Flubbernugget and Csareo? Pleeeeeeeeease?

[Csareo]

VOTE: anatole
I warned him that I needed a vote justification.
He'll need a very good story to convince me why he could quickly go post in the other forum, but ignore me here.

[Csareo]

Can we double-policy-lynch Flubbernugget and Csareo? Pleeeeeeeeease?

Why? Is this the only thing you've said in these 8 pages?
I have about 14 posts and you're already going for a policy lynch?

[Ki-Gi]

You answered the first question with the second question (and all your other posts).

[Csareo]

You answered the first question with the second question (and all your other posts).

Don't ive me that bullshit. Everyone knows that "policy lynch" talk is "scum convincing townies to lynch townies" talk

[Ki-Gi]

I didn't say policy lynch, I said DOUBLE policy lynch. And you thought I was serious. And you thought that was my first post of the game, even though I posted earlier on this page.

Town does not need scumhunting this bad clogging up the game.

[Oman]

Vote Count - D1 - 12A, 7L

Csareo (2*) - Flubbernugget, Anatole Kuragin
mykonian (2) - MattP, xRECKONERx
Anatole Kuragin (2) - farside22, Csareo
MattP (1) - Ki-Gi
Ki-Gi (1) - mykonian
Flubbernugget (1) - Belisarius

Not Voting (3) - MafiaSSK, T S O, Espressojet

*EDITED

Also I thought this was Top Gun Mafia when I signed up GODDAMMIT MONGOOOOOOOOOSE

Are you saying Mongoose instead of Goose? Cause that makes me really happy.

You guys are welcome to come up with cool fighter-piloty callsigns for yourselves/each other. For six years mine has been "Sid".
Some people I've worked with include: Muppet, Kinny, Dutchie, Cupcake, Shamwow, Dickson, Penguin, Woofe, They're usually more a dirty joke or a reference to a mistake they made than something cool like "Iceman", but go wild

Oh and for those wondering why I get called Sid:

[Ki-Gi]

Csareo is shown as having three votes but you have two listed.

[Espressojet]

Oh crap, page eight and I'm not here! I'll catch up tomorrow, I'm sorry guys!

[Csareo]

Csareo is shown as having three votes but you have two listed.

I noticed that as well. It could be a role thing rather than a mod error.

[Oman]

My bad. That's what happens when someone has a two word name.

[mykonian]

Can we double-policy-lynch Flubbernugget and Csareo? Pleeeeeeeeease?

It's their play, let them have fun.

also, after my initial coffee, I've now tried to quote 3 posts and say something meaningful. And it's just hard.

In case I do feel so inclined to understand this mess, any chance either flubber or csareo could give me the place where they play together as well?