FitzOtter I (Game Over)

[Juls]

Which comment?

[T-Bone]

I just think you're interaction regarding farside is weird. There is nothing he has posted that concerns you? I mean I had posted in the joke phase on page 1 and that was ENOUGH for you to help bring me to L-1. But no one else has done anything that concerns you to vote them? You changed your vote briefly, but heck you may as well be voting me for accusing UT of SK hunting at this point. I think that speaks volumes about you.

[T-Bone]

I voted you because it appeared to me that you were trying to play the "bone is avoiding this thread" card. But yeah, I voted for you without a reason. Blatant misrepresentation on your part. I mean it was crystal fucking clear the reasoning behind my vote, but that's too inconvenient for your worldview huh?

[T-Bone]

But here, let me help you. I'm going to avoid this thread now. Please occasionally point this out to everyone till I come back.

[farside22]

Well you're ignoring everything farside is doing so you must read him as town. These are the assumptions we are making right? I didn't post in this thread since last night so I MUST be avoiding it.

Juls is scum, so you're really bad at this. Juls was scummy, fake, and defensive, and I demonstrated as such. What is bad about any of those points I make? You're making sweeping generalizations about my "pushing being bad" but you don't have any specifics. So if you can make sweeping generalizations about my case, I can make sweeping generalizations about your reads. Ika thinks farside and Juls are confirmed town everyone, let the record show.

You think one of Juls or Bone is scum, but MY case is bad? What about Juls essentially leading my wagon to L-1? You're ignoring the events of the game to fit your narrow view of the game. Is this as high quality as you're going to get or are you, like farside, going to ignore things when they are inconvenient to your play?

No Farside you CAN'T have it both ways just to fit your fake assertion. Either you "lynch all liars" or you don't. Me thinking you are harping on me for avoiding the thread is not lying, it is me thinking you are harping on me for avoiding the thread.

What is so 'obscure" about my angle on Juls? What from my post last page was obscure? Did I not assert that Juls was 'scummy, fake, and defensive' and then show the posts that I believe represent those qualities? That's not "obscure" that's CLEAR as fucking day Ika.

EDIT I"M JUST GONNA POST AND THEN CATCH UP ON THE NINJA POSTS

See this is all scummy. You jump to conclusions based on 2 post and completely blow it out of proportion of what was said.
I told you one was towards vox and you still use harping and claiming you were purposely avoiding the thread. Things I never said. You are implying shit that does not exist in this thread or game.

You also have now avoided answering my question to your counter and started preaching to all.
This coming from a player that supposedly wants to have people ask questions.

So? You got UBER DEFENSIVE over one vote, I was brought to L-1. You can't complain about how I chose to vote. Maybe it's a pressure vote? Maybe you completely flipped the fuck out under said pressure? Maybe I wanted to start progressing through reads, hence me singling out Juls on page 1, and singling out you next? This is very consistent with the way I play. You can disagree with it, that's fine. But instead you've gone and misrepresented my posts with your "lynch all lairs" assertion.

I haven't avoided any questions. Have you seen the last few pages? It's nothing but people bombarding me with questions that I am answering.

You lied.
I said to show where I harped on you not posting.
I asked you what is harping (by the way I hate the word harping) and you quoted 2 post and instead of a discussion you went to defensive the moment I voted you for lying and instead if asking questions you assumed.
You have this do as I say not as I do post attitude.
Do you even know that?
You ask people to ask questions and figure things out. You don't do that without voting.
You call juls out for caring about the votes on her and the wagon on her. So? And? That is not scummy in the least it's null at best.
I explained my post and you ignore everything I post and make it a case if proof.
Tell me where I'm wrong thus far.
Now your saying you would look at the wagon on you if given a chance. My question....why the fuck did you not do that already?

[farside22]

@juls: I'm referring to your post here.

lats also do an exercise:

preted juls is confirmed scum: who are her scum buddies?

now pretend juls is confirmed town: who is scum?

I didn't answer the second part, but if Juls is town that's great, there are some interactions with her claim that are interesting. Scum would know Juls is claiming truth in her role.

your acting like you know juls wont flip town.....

i get this odd vibe if one flips scum the ohter is as well in a huge attmept of corss-bussing

The fact that you keep trying to set this up makes me worried you are buddies.

[farside22]

I voted you because it appeared to me that you were trying to play the "bone is avoiding this thread" card. But yeah, I voted for you without a reason. Blatant misrepresentation on your part. I mean it was crystal fucking clear the reasoning behind my vote, but that's too inconvenient for your worldview huh?

Oh so your voting me for misrepresting my post and claiming I said something I did not.
Good to know.

But here, let me help you. I'm going to avoid this thread now. Please occasionally point this out to everyone till I come back.

Waaaahhhhh apparently showing the vote count that Zor made and your post history and time you posted is being avoided by you for "reasons"

[Juls]

@juls: I'm referring to your post here.

lats also do an exercise:

preted juls is confirmed scum: who are her scum buddies?

now pretend juls is confirmed town: who is scum?

I didn't answer the second part, but if Juls is town that's great, there are some interactions with her claim that are interesting. Scum would know Juls is claiming truth in her role.

your acting like you know juls wont flip town.....

i get this odd vibe if one flips scum the ohter is as well in a huge attmept of corss-bussing

The fact that you keep trying to set this up makes me worried you are buddies.

I'm not "worried" about it, I just feel like he keeps setting up if this guy flips town, this guy is scum, if this guy flips scum, this other guy is scum. The one I mention here is the one that is most suspect since he seems certain of one of us being scum and he switched to Tbone. If Tbone and ika were scum together he might be setting up my mislynch.

[farside22]

I also don't know if I like Juls interpretation of #91 after her fakedayvig, as it's pretty Town to me, but that's up for debate.

Yeah, but that's not lying and you asking for clarification on harping after the fact just looks like you're trying to pigeonhole T-Bone into the "lynch all liars" bit. Plus it's not a hardfast rule, I lied about being a double voter, where's my vote?

I'm curious why you think t-bone comment is truthful.
He's whole reason for voting was misrepresenting 2 post. Unless you can explain how it is correct.

[Untrod Tripod]

wow, tbone, the wagon on you was dissipating

now was not the time to completely flip your shit

[T-Bone]

But I found scum by flipping my shit. You should sheep my Farside vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

But I found scum by flipping my shit. You should sheep my Farside vote.

I can help you with your problem.

VOTE: farside

[farside22]

But I found scum by flipping my shit. You should sheep my Farside vote.

Lying to people makes me scum?
Fascinating
How do you react when people lie/misreprent your actions?

Because all I see is you flipping out on being called a liar while ignore everything else said.

[Hostile Intent]

VOTE: farside22

Baa.

[farside22]

Dgb is probably scum that's the second sheep with no reasoning.
Juls: if your role is true. Abr is a town read and dgb, tbone and vox read scummy. Don't invite any of those three.
I suggest aegor more to question him and someone shoot hostile for realz. He's bad for this game as a whole.

[farside22]

Vote: Farside

Why are you harping on me for not responding when less than a day has past between last night and now? This is scum right here.

Vote: Farside

Why are you harping on me for not responding when less than a day has past between last night and now? This is scum right here.

Quote where I harped on you for not responding.
Or die for lying.

Nobody even cares how fast this wagon grew on ABSOLUTELY nothing.

Same with tbone.
Of course tbone hasn't responded which bothers me.

Oh no Farside.....turns out you did exactly what I just accused you of doing!

Agreed with Farside, Hostile Intent is likely VI.

Konowa town, ABR town(?), TBone can wait.

Tbone hasn't even responded. Why can he wait?

BONUS QUOTE

You're SOOOOOO interested in the fact that I didn't respond since last night.

You said twice "tbone isn't responding" with the "it bothers me" the second time. If you're trying to claim that you were concerned over the composition of my wagon, this is perhaps the least amount of concern you could ever muster up.

Now you can say you weren't harping on me and you were trying to get across a different message. But no instead you went into the uber scum defensive "lynch all lairs" instead of I dunno maybe understanding how I interpreted your post?

Konowa, do you think Farside really cares about his reads? You lied, Juls lied, yet he's got his vote on me for interpeting his actions as trying to play the "Bone is avoiding this thread" card. Nope, rather than try to understand what I was interpreting his posts to mean he went straight to a scummy extreme.

I voted you because it appeared to me that you were trying to play the "bone is avoiding this thread" card. But yeah, I voted for you without a reason. Blatant misrepresentation on your part. I mean it was crystal fucking clear the reasoning behind my vote, but that's too inconvenient for your worldview huh?

Let's use facts.
Lied about actions stated.
Exaggerated points using 2 post, one that wasn't about his not posting.
Doesn't awnser the following questions.
Why it's harping. Not responding to point made back and still using the same points after being debunked.

Claims he would look at wagon and did not look at any wagon on anyone.

Aka: he's a lying scum bag.

Dgb is next.

[farside22]

VOTE: TBone

ABR please hammer thanks

Let's see if we can lynch Juls in 10 posts or less tomorrow.

So bastard games means everyone play as bad as possible I guess.

I'm a non consecutive night neighborizor for two people other than myself. There's a little more but if you lynch me you can kiss my ass so I ain't telling you the rest.

Please please please neighborize me

I was born for this

But I found scum by flipping my shit. You should sheep my Farside vote.

I can help you with your problem.

VOTE: farside

Dgb: vote's tbone, ask for hammer.
Talks about lynching juls, no reason stated.
Believes Konowa and juls automatically without reason (scum tend to believe those they know are town)
And jumps on next bw.

In short: no scum hunting, no reason opportunistic scum

[farside22]

Vote TBone

because wagon.

@ABR, basically a BG that also works against lynches?

Juls is likely scum. We'll see where this goes.

Vote: Juls

*grumble grumble lack of hammer grumble*

Fakeday kill after Fakedoublevote hammer doesn't lessen my suspicions on juls.

ika/farside, I wanted THAT to be a legit hammer at that point for :reasons:, but putting that aside I think Juls is more likely scum than Tbone.

As for waiting for reactions/continuing with the wagon, Tbone's reactions now will not be helpful since there's been a VC, so I don't have any interest in keeping the wagon on when I have an actual scumread.

Vox scum is jumping on each wagon, no reason, no question. Moves off tbone for no reason. Calls juls scum for no reason.
Sliding by scum buddy with tbone after jumping ship to juls instead of bussing.


You are all welcome.

[Konowa]

I actually lean town on Tbone over the past few pages.

@konowa why did you think HIs reaction was town?

His "fuck it" reaction came across very genuine and very apathetic towards gamestate as a whole.

I'm curious why you think t-bone comment is truthful.He's whole reason for voting was misrepresenting 2 post. Unless you can explain how it is correct.

It's interpretation. I could see why he would think you were harping on him for not posting within 24 hours, or whatever the timeframe was.

farside, I think you are confusing playstyle with scum.

[T-Bone]

LOL FARSIDE QUOTES EXACTLY WHAT HE DID AND THEN CALLS ME A LIAR DESPITE QUOTING THE TRUTH TELLING LOLOLOL

Are you just hoping that if you string together the words "T-Bone" and "liar" enough that people will forget what you're talking about and just subconsciously make the association?

Farside is scum. His entire "Bone is a liar" depends on....? I'm not sure what it depends on. I voted Farside because it appeared to me he was trying to play the "Bone is avoiding this thread" card. And then I quoted those posts to show everyone what it appeared to me. Yet I am somehow lying by this?

Here's what really happened to those watching at home. Farside over reacted to my vote and has been backpedaling ever since. Maybe he feels like he got caught for the wrong reasons? I don't know. The fact is Farside is posting like caught scum. He's been scrambling.

[T-Bone]

wow, tbone, the wagon on you was dissipating

now was not the time to completely flip your shit

Does this post bother anyone else? Why does it matter if my wagon was dissipating or not?

[Untrod Tripod]

psst tbone flail in another direction

[Untrod Tripod]

also stop calling farside a he

goddamn

[T-Bone]

Answer my question UT. Why should I be concerned about my wagon dissipating?

[T-Bone]

I apologize for my pronoun slips I'll be more careful, Farside.