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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:11 pm

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He has a lot of town reads, and he is correctly voting scum.

It's stellar play.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:11 pm

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:Because lurking is something scum do to try to get active town players lynched. Plus Jester's self vote rubbed me the wrong way.

............. OK, no.

I'm calling complete bullshit here. first off, DGB is lurking, but she outright said she is townreading you. what is she even doing in order to get you lynched? second, I also self-voted, which you acknowledged when you voted me. what makes Jester's self-vote any worse than mine? (additionally, I don't see what Jester is doing to get you lynched either, given afaik he hasn't declared a scum read on you and is instead voting me)


So because DGB is townreading me that obligates me to townread her? That makes no sense whatsoever.

And your self vote is better because you are not lurking, you are actually contributing and scumhunting.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:12 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:did you miss the part where he just said he was scumreading you for lurking?


That's a fair criticism of my play. Except that he didn't exploit it, at a time where he was himself in jeopardy.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:15 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:He has a lot of town reads, and he is correctly voting scum.

It's stellar play.


He stated 4 town reads (not counting Jester since that's barely even a read) and 3 scum reads.

That's a stretch both objectively and relatively.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:15 pm

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:So because DGB is townreading me that obligates me to townread her? That makes no sense whatsoever.

And your self vote is better because you are not lurking, you are actually contributing and scumhunting.

. . . . . . .

no, the fucking point is that you think DGB is lurking in order to get you lynched - WHILE SHE HAS A TOWN READ ON YOU. it doesn't make any sense to think that DGB is scum trying to mislynch you when she has a townread on you.


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Walpurgisnacht wrote:did you miss the part where he just said he was scumreading you for lurking?


That's a fair criticism of my play. Except that he didn't exploit it, at a time where he was himself in jeopardy.

you don't think he is in jeopardy now?
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:16 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:He has a lot of town reads, and he is correctly voting scum.

It's stellar play.


He stated 4 town reads (not counting Jester since that's barely even a read) and 3 scum reads.

That's a stretch both objectively and relatively.


I counted 5 townies and 2 scum (the latter is a miscount).
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:17 pm

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So you happened to miss one of two scumreads that were literally right next to each other?

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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:17 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:you don't think he is in jeopardy now?


Are you saying he's clamoring to lynch me?
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:17 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:So you happened to miss one of two scumreads that were literally right next to each other?

-Ank


Maybe I missed the solo scum read.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:18 pm

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The solo scumread was davesaz, who Jingle happened to be voting.

Now, how did you happen to miss one of the two scumreads that were right next to each other?

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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:19 pm

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:So because DGB is townreading me that obligates me to townread her? That makes no sense whatsoever.

And your self vote is better because you are not lurking, you are actually contributing and scumhunting.

. . . . . . .

no, the fucking point is that you think DGB is lurking in order to get you lynched - WHILE SHE HAS A TOWN READ ON YOU. it doesn't make any sense to think that DGB is scum trying to mislynch you when she has a townread on you.


I never said anything about me specifically, I said scum lurk to get townies lynched. The fact that you jumped to that conclusion implies town motivation on my part. If I were scum you would think I would be more worried about causing mislynches rather than being the victim of them.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:23 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Are you saying he's clamoring to lynch me?

I'm saying your reasoning doesn't work. your town read comes from him passing up an opportunity to lynch you, but this is not what he is doing. he may not be clamoring to lynch you now, but he is scum reading you, which for all intents and purposes means he can help lynch you down the road if the opportunity comes up

it doesn't help that overall I'm not particularly sold on that as a reason for him being town. I'm not sure why scum would be unable to pass on lynching you specifically in this situation.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:25 pm

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:I never said anything about me specifically, I said scum lurk to get townies lynched. The fact that you jumped to that conclusion implies town motivation on my part. If I were scum you would think I would be more worried about causing mislynches rather than being the victim of them.

lmao. you are kidding me, right

I admit I misread your original post and thought you were talking about yourself (as opposed to in general), but this post is really bad -.-
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:27 pm

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the idea there was that I thought your reasoning for DGB-scum was faked, which would indicate it's coming from scum

it has absolutely nothing to do with whether you're the victim of being mislynched or not

I have literally 0 idea why you would post that, except to attempt to give yourself towncred.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:31 pm

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~~~~~
Votecount 1.4
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The_Trolling_Jester - 1 - MonkeyMan576
MonkeyMan576 - 3 - Walpurgisnacht - Ghostlin - Albert B. Rampage
Ghostlin - 2 - Kise - ika - massive
Albert B. Rampage - 1 - Sorceror Madness
DrippingGoofball - 2 - BlueBloodedToffee - davesaz
Walpurgisnacht - 1 - The_Trolling_Jester
davesaz - 2 - Jingle - DrippingGoofball

No Lynch - 0 -
Not Voting - 0 -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-12-19 22:06:59)

Mod Notes: N/A
Prods: ika
V/LA: N/A

~~~~~
Events
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Day 1 Starts
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:32 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:yes and yes? I don't understand why you would have waited to vote (considering the reasoning you put down when voting was the same as before), so I think it's a likely possibility it's bc you were waiting to figure out the least objectionable place to put your vote, hence flow-going; and the way Ghostlin is handling the MM push looks entirely consistent to me. I'm not sure what your point here is.

My point is that, to me, I voted when I woke up and read the thread. There was no flow, and even if you believed in flow, I don't know I'd call one vote a flow. Trying to tie me to DGB seems absurd to me, so I'm trying to figure out the motive behind doing so.

Walpurgisnacht wrote: first off, even if "being inactive" isn't a scum tell, why does that make him scum for pushing it?

I don't know the motive. Aren't I right to question it? I get it in every game and I really should make a spreadsheet, or make notes in my wiki page, about whether that person ended up scum or not.

Walpurgisnacht wrote:I really hate the way massive is lurking as a whole, actually :<

Oh for fuck's sake, Pie, you played an entire game with me and you KNOW I am on-site for about eight hours a day and away on the weekends. You had no issues with my posting regimen in that game .. but then again, you were scum there.

Walpurgisnacht wrote:town who lurk at least drop some thoughts off during their limited time in the game thread. scum who lurk tend to hide behind their lack of content as a defense. he obviously has at least one read, but rather than contributing reads when he is actually here, he posts a bunch of reasons why he hasn't been able to do anything.

The game has been open a whopping FOUR WHOLE DAYS. There are plenty of people not contributing reads. Singling me out because?
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:34 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:Now, how did you happen to miss one of the two scumreads that were right next to each other?


I counted those.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:35 pm

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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:36 pm

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If you agree that davesaz is scum, why aren't you voting him?
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:41 pm

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what the fuck happened in these 2 days i was busy?

sigh this is why i hate my life sometimes......
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:46 pm

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massive wrote:Oh for fuck's sake, Pie, you played an entire game with me and you KNOW I am on-site for about eight hours a day and away on the weekends. You had no issues with my posting regimen in that game .. but then again, you were scum there.
massive wrote:The game has been open a whopping FOUR WHOLE DAYS. There are plenty of people not contributing reads. Singling me out because?

errrr no

it is not about how often you are posting, or able to post

it is about what you are posting while you have been here. iirc, in that game, despite being overall inactive and not being able to post much, the posts you *did* make had content in them and were generally relevant. however, in this game, the majority of your first few posts were you explaining away why you didn't have any content, as opposed to actually giving it.

moreover, when I pointed out some problems I had with your posting, you completely ignored it. you still haven't answered anything I pointed out in .

massive wrote:I don't know the motive. Aren't I right to question it? I get it in every game and I really should make a spreadsheet, or make notes in my wiki page, about whether that person ended up scum or not.

this is exactly what I'm talking about. you're talking as much about how you always get called for lurking in every game as you are about your actual thoughts on the game.

massive wrote:My point is that, to me, I voted when I woke up and read the thread. There was no flow, and even if you believed in flow, I don't know I'd call one vote a flow. Trying to tie me to DGB seems absurd to me, so I'm trying to figure out the motive behind doing so.

"flow-going" is just a general term

the idea is exactly what I said; trying to take the least objectionable action as often as possible, and not do anything controversial, in order to avoid taking heat

and I'm not really trying to "tie" you to DGB per se. this is a scumtell that solely applies to you
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:48 pm

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so i see a huge fight going on and one question directedd at me........

the answer to the question: just read the thread and see how much of that i can cut out and talk to him and avoid all this....

when this piss fight is over tell me.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:23 pm

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ika wrote:so i see a huge fight going on and one question directedd at me........

the answer to the question: just read the thread and see how much of that i can cut out and talk to him and avoid all this....

when this piss fight is over tell me.

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the reason I asked this is explicitly because I would rather not have this cut out of the actual game thread. I want to actually see how you and SM are actually sorting each other. additionally I'd guess I'm not the only one who would prefer that.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:26 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:
ika wrote:so i see a huge fight going on and one question directedd at me........

the answer to the question: just read the thread and see how much of that i can cut out and talk to him and avoid all this....

when this piss fight is over tell me.

er

the reason I asked this is explicitly because I would rather not have this cut out of the actual game thread. I want to actually see how you and SM are actually sorting each other. additionally I'd guess I'm not the only one who would prefer that.


how about a compermise: after we sort it out we give out a transcript of how it goes downa nd daves can also give imput.

i rather not have 10 people butting in on the convo
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:28 pm

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Walpurgisnacht wrote:
MonkeyMan576 wrote:I never said anything about me specifically, I said scum lurk to get townies lynched. The fact that you jumped to that conclusion implies town motivation on my part. If I were scum you would think I would be more worried about causing mislynches rather than being the victim of them.

lmao. you are kidding me, right

I admit I misread your original post and thought you were talking about yourself (as opposed to in general), but this post is really bad -.-


I like that you misread the post so that makes my post bad. Way to cover yourself...bravo.
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