Mini 1626: Duck Tales Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:31 pm

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DOMO wrote:Well you'd say that whatever your alignment. Furthermore, it's extremly suspicious that your reaction to my comment wasn't to immediately question my motive. It's rolefishy as hell. Why didn't that bother you?


You said I was faking a crumb, which I could see, given that I just gave a townread on Mastin seemingly out of nowhere. I said I didn't. I could see where you got that, but it was wrong. I don't see how that reaction from me is role fishing, or how your reaction should make me suspicious.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:05 pm

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Agree with the scum reads on Bulbazak on page 11-12, this post especially looks scummy, bold in particular

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Wisdom, one of these days you'll learn how to actually scumhunt.
Why is Kitty scum? Why is everyone on her wagon town? Because that's what you're suggesting. You have taken zero interest in figuring out her or my alignment. If you thought my stance was BS, then you should have asked me how I came to my reads on everyone. I've been very clear on my Kitty, TW, and Pasch reads. Less so on my Aronis and Jeckel reads, mostly because they are developing. Aronis's first and only post is opportunistic as crap and exactly what I'd expect from scum him. Jeckel might be town, but his first post, which jumped on the emerging Kitty wagon, felt very mechanical. The only legit vote I've seen is Farside, and that looks to be largely personal. So again, what's the Kitty case?


Pine wrote:Push on Bulba feels off. I don't see much scumminess from Bulba, much less what Hydreigon is showing


Yeah I feel pretty good about Bulba scum

Mastin's rage posting seems like it's coming from a place of "I'm scum but I'm not scum for this"

That's page 22, Mastin's rage posting and subsequent wall exhausted me, still very little happening, game dominated by a few voices, mainly Shiny who I'm townreading. Feeling conflicted about TW, his complete lack of anything bothers me but when he does do something or places a vote they make little sense from scum. I could see him with mastin though

Eh, went to the next page, actually like this for not scum-scum interaction

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Pine wrote:Lolwut
"I can never read this guy" isn't a policy reason.
It's more than that.
-I policy-lynch policy-lynchers.
-You've done a fair amount of complaining.
-You haven't actually generated content, relying on the complaining and policy-lynch to get you through.

Does this make you scum?

No, not necessarily, although it certainly makes me receptive to the idea.
But when combined with the fact THAT I can never read you?

Yep, I'd lynch you.

I'll let you get away with only so much on you being PINE.


Hate Aronis' post but Pine's response doesn't look like a buddy response, too quick to agree

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Shiny Hydreigon wrote:oh and why is that?

R~

Kitty is still obvscum.

You're being so anti-town, scum is the only logical solution.


Subject: Mini 1626: Duck Tales Mafia (Night1)

Pine wrote:^This. Hydreigon is being so grossly counterproductive, they're either aggro scum or Town we need to ditch. Either way, the sooner the better. D1 is usually a shot in the dark, so it might as well be cutting out dead weight

I'm clear of my holiday V/LA. I'll have that analysis tomorrow



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mastin2 wrote:(In fact, I'm deeply restraining myself from doing exactly that.)


Stop being so dramatic. Instead of all this grandiose oratory, just make a simple case or two. Give me some reason to believe that your reads are correct. I'm certainly not going to do it just based on how loudly you claim to be right. Convince me to vote along with you. That's the one thing you're completely failing to do this game.


I hate this kind of empty grandstanding in general but it's also the kind of thing town Pasch comes out with, leaning scum with it though, Pasch town usually has more of an entitled vibe, this looks more hollow and constructed.

I agree with Shiny in regards to House in their spam war in pages ~30 or so, but I don't see Kitty as scum, seems like she town building a read out of personal dislike

Why did my 10 page catch up warrant a vote when your 16 page catch up was pretty similar

Wasn't liking Farsides push me/my slot, feeling better about it reading the context for it

Subject: Mini 1626: Duck Tales Mafia (Night1)

Total Wreck wrote:Fuck it, lynch me.

Tired of the bullshit.

VOTE: Total Wreck


This comes seemingly out of nowhere and doesn't fee sincere in the way stuff like typically does

Whenever Aronis posts, I don't understand what the point of it was, leaning scum posting for the sake of it over exasperated town just lurking and waiting to die.

Subject: Mini 1626: Duck Tales Mafia (Night1)

Paschendale wrote:Self voting is completely unacceptable.

VOTE: Total Wreck


This is terrible, unsure what Pine's reaction and the TW/Pasch interaction says about their alignments, could be scum theatre, especcially with the encryptor flips, but I feel like I'm being too stubborn with the reads and don't want to just say this means at least one of them is town


House and on actually feel very town, settling on Pasch scum and House town.

More lecturing grandstanding "look how town I am" posting from Pasch.

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Stupid fucking one-liners like this that ignore the fundamentals of the game just piss me off. Stop lying. Stop wasting everyone's time. Stop spewing nonsense. Just admit that you're scum and that you're just trying to protect yourself and we can lynch you and then kill your buddies. For fuck's sake, it's getting old!


This in particular feels fake and deliberately the constructed, The constant full stops, the exclamation mark. This isn't a genuine reactions, it's someone trying to craft an argument

mastin2 wrote:Screw it, Romi's town because Bulb's not, Pine's not, and Pasch's not.


Not ready to call mastin a townread, or even a nullread, but I could sheep this list

Aronis' posting on page 45 is a joke but feels town

Really dislike Pasch's refusal of the reachout in

Need to look at how he reacts to pressure as scum though because he posts like he did to Kitty as town when under fire.

Aronis looks town on 46 and 47.

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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:30 pm

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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:54 pm

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Choo Choo!

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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:34 am

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Bulbazak wrote:
Vote Total Wreck


@Farside: Why did you decide to remain in the game?

Also, Mastin is town.



The mod had more then enough replacements.
As for why didn't I just hammer to end the day and cool down. I wanted pine to claim and I lost my cool over shiny' attitude. I thought about hammering and not giving two shits what pine claimed. I just felt I was acting anti town and needed to replace out before acting within my emotion.
Frankly I came back because of the replacement issue and because I really enjoyed ducktales when I was younger.


Why did you fight for pages with mastin?
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:41 am

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Not_mafia: why is mastin a leaning scum read?
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:00 am

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Largely gut, felt like he should be interacting with Pasch more if really wants to sort him, felt like her rage came from a perspective of "I'm scum but not for this"
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:30 am

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Bulbazak wrote:I don't see how that reaction from me is role fishing, or how your reaction should make me suspicious.


I'm saying that if you're a villager, you should consider my comments at you to be rolefishing. I'm not accusing you of rolefishing me. I'm saying that you should accuse me of rolefishing. But you're scum so it didn't occur to you.
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:33 am

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NM, why is mastin a scumread? She's practically claimed a town PR, and in the most sincerest of manners. Bitch is town. I was wrong.
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:00 am

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mastin2 wrote:No shit, sherlock. And you're the fucking bastard that blocked me last night.

Bulba, you haven't responded to this at all. -Can you?
DOMO wrote:She's practically claimed a town PR, and in the most sincerest of manners.
Yeah, she practically claimed a PR at some point Yesterday as well. I'm not surprised she got blocked.

I like what I see from NM up there, I'm feeling better about that slot.

If anyone wants to do something fun, you can go through pasch's iso looking for places where he talks to pine, and compare that to how he talks to anyone else in the game.

BTW, I'm still up for lynching pasch, but Bulba is my next strongest read, so I can get behind that as well.
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:23 am

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KittyCupCake wrote:If anyone wants to do something fun, you can go through pasch's iso looking for places where he talks to pine, and compare that to how he talks to anyone else in the game.


I already did that through the night. I've basically poe'd bulba and pasch. I'm a lot more confident about bulba being scum though, and his posts today only reinforce that view.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:39 am

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Oh yeah ofc, pine flipping scum means that farside can easily be scum. I'm prepared to totally dismiss the shiny kill as evidence against her because it's easy to argue she could be being framed. But farside replacing out rather than hammering scum looks bad.

If there's town between pasch and bulba, farside is next on the list imo.
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:50 am

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Actually thinking about it, the very fact I'm alive strongly suggests farside is town. I think of the three games I've played with farside recently, I've targetted her as a town PR twice. Point is, as scum she'd be very worried about me and I think would be much more inclined to play it safe and get rid of me, rather than take out the person who is annoying her.

I can buy that she just didn't want to hammer someone without a claim. It's just that I wouldn't have waited for a claim if I had the hammer vote because that day needed ending.
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:42 am

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DOMO wrote:NM, why is mastin a scumread? She's practically claimed a town PR, and in the most sincerest of manners. Bitch is town. I was wrong.


I made that list in the night phase. Posts today have shifted her more towards null/town, will depend a lot on Bulba flip as to where my read settles
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:48 am

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How on earth is she null/town? She was a scumread of mine yesterday. Today she's the most towniest person I don't know the role of. If her way of fakeclaiming a town PR is to pretend to have been roleblocked right off the bat on d1, then she's very clever and deceiptful.
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:24 am

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She is very clever and deceitful
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:28 am

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Well if she's scum here's hoping she gets poe'd, because she's bottom of my shitlist.
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:40 am

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Not_Mafia is on point this game. Locked in IMO.

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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:46 am

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Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Not_Mafia is on point this game. Locked in IMO.

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I see no reason in NM's iso to clear him. He feels pretty null to me. His asking for consensus to hammer is weird. Wreck just did it without a care. So to town him as "on point" strikes me as odd.
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:56 am

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DOMO wrote:
Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Not_Mafia is on point this game. Locked in IMO.

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I see no reason in NM's iso to clear him. He feels pretty null to me. His asking for consensus to hammer is weird. Wreck just did it without a care. So to town him as "on point" strikes me as odd.


Really? In past games, I've seen people get blasted for "asking people whether other people are ready for hammer," and it's an unreliable tell. Null if anything.

Wreck? TW's hammer was absolutely the worst. Are you suggesting that Wreck's hammer was less scummy than Not_Mafia's asking for consensus to hammer?
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:58 am

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DOMO wrote:Oh yeah ofc, pine flipping scum means that farside can easily be scum. I'm prepared to totally dismiss the shiny kill as evidence against her because it's easy to argue she could be being framed. But farside replacing out rather than hammering scum looks bad.

If there's town between pasch and bulba, farside is next on the list imo.



Probably should have hammered, but I've seen too many hammers without claims flip a pr and I wasn't willing to take the chance to hammer without a claim.

Still not a fan of not mafia. I find it odd he thinks bulba is scum but didn't vote him with the bw going.

Waiting on bulba before I discuss the spot.


Also not mafia said he wanted a claim/asked for hammer but I recall very little from him scum reading pine.
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:58 am

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I'm saying I like his conclusions about Bulba and Pasch. I also agree about Mastin not being a lights-out townread, as she is a sneaky player (from past games) as either alignment. Bulba-Wisdom interaction he pointed out looks fishy on Bulba's end.
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:02 am

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DOMO wrote:Oh yeah ofc, pine flipping scum means that farside can easily be scum. I'm prepared to totally dismiss the shiny kill as evidence against her because it's easy to argue she could be being framed. But farside replacing out rather than hammering scum looks bad.

If there's town between pasch and bulba, farside is next on the list imo.

DOMO wrote:Actually thinking about it, the very fact I'm alive strongly suggests farside is town. I think of the three games I've played with farside recently, I've targetted her as a town PR twice. Point is, as scum she'd be very worried about me and I think would be much more inclined to play it safe and get rid of me, rather than take out the person who is annoying her.

I can buy that she just didn't want to hammer someone without a claim. It's just that I wouldn't have waited for a claim if I had the hammer vote because that day needed ending.


This is a really backhanded way to go modifying your opinion (based on "I am still alive") in a few minutes. Especially when the first part hinges on "farside replaced out rather than hammering [hindsight] confirmed scum."
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:15 am

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DOMO wrote:Actually thinking about it, the very fact I'm alive strongly suggests farside is town. I think of the three games I've played with farside recently, I've targetted her as a town PR twice. Point is, as scum she'd be very worried about me and I think would be much more inclined to play it safe and get rid of me, rather than take out the person who is annoying her.


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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:05 am

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farside22 wrote:Still not a fan of not mafia. I find it odd he thinks bulba is scum but didn't vote him with the bw going.


Why is this scummy with NM? I'm doing exactly that... pushing bulba as my top scum read while holding my vote.

Perpetual Nonsense wrote:This is a really backhanded way to go modifying your opinion (based on "I am still alive") in a few minutes. Especially when the first part hinges on "farside replaced out rather than hammering [hindsight] confirmed scum."


This is a really backhanded way of casting suspicion at someone. Does scum say one thing and then change his mind a few minutes later? Only if he's trying to look town. You seem to be suggesting that someone changing their mind is scummy. It's not, rigid is scummy. If I'm scum, why would I find a reason to point the finger at farside, and then find reason to back away? With my first post, I've either found reason to push a mislynch, or found reason to bus a buddy. Either way, backing away makes no sense. The only thing that truly makes sense is that I'm town posting my thoughts as they come to me. Or wifom, like wreck is suggesting.
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