Mini 1630: Edgar Allan Poe uPick GAME OVER!

[LynxKuroneko]

That is a pretty foul claim on kthx's part... Hm... I like your posts, Cat. Wanna vote for me? :3

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1.8

That stole upon the ear, in Eyraco,
Of many a wild star-gazer long ago—
That stealeth ever on the ear of him
Who, musing, gazeth on the distance dim.
And sees the darkness coming as a cloud—
Is not its form—its voice—most palpable and loud?

But what is this?—it cometh—and it brings
A music with it—'tis the rush of wings—
A pause—and then a sweeping, falling strain
And Nesace is in her halls again.
From the wild energy of wanton haste
Her cheeks were flushing, and her lips apart;
And zone that clung around her gentle waist
Had burst beneath the heaving of her heart.
Within the centre of that hall to breathe
She paus'd and panted, Zanthe! all beneath,
The fairy light that kiss'd her golden hair
And long'd to rest, yet could but sparkle there!

Young flowers were whispering in melody
To happy flowers that night—and tree to tree;
Fountains were gushing music as they fell
In many a star-lit grove, or moon-lit dell;
Yet silence came upon material things—
Fair flowers, bright waterfalls and angel wings—
And sound alone that from the spirit sprang
Bore burthen to the charm the maiden sang:

Kthxbye

(2): Faster Than Light, Catastrophe

LynxKuroneko

(1): Bookitty

Catastrophe

(1): Policy Lynch

TierShift

(0): Ghatokaca

Ghatokaca

(0):

TierShift

copper223

(1): Kthxbye

Faster Than Light

(1): BRantz

Bookitty

(1): CaskOfAmontillado

Not Voting

(4): Krystal Bald, LynxKuroneko, Medea the Alien, copper223

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: January 16, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2015-01-15 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[TierShift]

Nobody should read your previous posts as they are complete tosh, no idea about the future.

I don't know about Tier, on one side Boo, a townread of mine thinks he is town and there seems to be some sort of role interaction there, on the other I think he coasted till a few pages back because he was unvotable and that seems more scum indicative, I would not put him on the wagon but I can see why some might want to.

Why do you suggest my unvotable thing has anything to do with the fact that I was doing nothing proactive?

[BRantz]

@Cata: How does that role hurt town more than scum? In my eyes it helps keep the only private info town has hidden since scum won't know if/what pr's die if kthx dies... oh wait, I see where this goes wrong, nevermind. He just shot back up my scum reads.

VOTE: kthxbye

[copper223]

Fine guys, Lynx is not getting the necessary support and after all the hints he has dropped this must be the play for today as far as I'm concerned so here's how I'm reading it.

Lynx is hinting at being a self watcher at night and

a self sensor if lynched

.

This means, he can tell us how many scumplayers were on his lynch today, realistically this means we have a pretty good shot at narrowing down most of the scumteam in the 4 remaning slots by chosing only the players we think are town to go on the wagon.

Now discuss.

@Catastrophe
I don't see most of the scum motivation for Kthxbye to claim as he did, I see him thinking to himself as town that if he claims someone will stop ignoring his scumread and he can get me lynched, this is compatible with his personality from what I've read of him.

[Bookitty]

Can somebody who believes this claim please explain why? Because claiming a role that punishes town if you die seems like an awfully convenient claim. It also seems like something town would want to keep hidden as long as possible, because revealing the role means scum have an easy way to prevent town from getting information if they kill you.

I had the same passive town-power in Advance Wars, a game that fferyllt also played and that kthxbye did not. This alone makes me kinda believe it. It would be an awfully big coincidence that kthxbye would claim that particular not-very-common power in this game if it weren't true.

[Bookitty]

@copper: Aren't you voting Lynx? I think the vote count is wrong on that.

[copper223]

@Boo
Lynx asked me to unvote him because he liked Kthxbye's arguments

[Faster Than Light]

Fine guys, Lynx is not getting the necessary support and after all the hints he has dropped this must be the play for today as far as I'm concerned so here's how I'm reading it.

Lynx is hinting at being a self watcher at night and

a self sensor if lynched

.

[Faster Than Light]

VOTE: lynx

[Bookitty]

Missed that.

I mainly don't want Medea the Alien and Cask of Amontillado on the wagon, if you're right. I haven't got a third yet.

Ninja'd: Why the vote now, FTL?

[copper223]

Weren't you unwilling to hop on the wagon FTL? I think only

approved

players should be allowed to vote for Lynx.

[Faster Than Light]

I'd like bookitty, copper, ghato, brantz, krystal,

ftl

and maybe tiershift to vote for me.

check yo privilege

[copper223]

Fair enough, but why the change of heart?

[copper223]

@Tier

Nobody should read your previous posts as they are complete tosh, no idea about the future.

I don't know about Tier, on one side Boo, a townread of mine thinks he is town and there seems to be some sort of role interaction there, on the other I think he coasted till a few pages back because he was unvotable and that seems more scum indicative, I would not put him on the wagon but I can see why some might want to.

Why do you suggest my unvotable thing has anything to do with the fact that I was doing nothing proactive?

I don't know that two are connected but I think they might be.

[Kthxbye]

Yes, I did misread copper's post. Still not warm and fuzzy on him, but the push from Cata and BRantz onto me with the attempt to discredit my PR is just more scummy.

UNVOTE: copper

for now....

[LynxKuroneko]

This means, he can tell us how many scumplayers were on his lynch today, realistically this means we have a pretty good shot at narrowing down most of the scumteam in the 4 remaning slots by chosing only the players we think are town to go on the wagon.

You can come back to the wagon.

Anyone else see players more deserving of my wagon today?

Kthx... Shoo.

[copper223]

VOTE: Lynx

[LynxKuroneko]

I also DESPISE not having much to go on from the lurkers / quiet players, and I'm often pro anti-lurker... Not much can be done there, really.

MtA townreads players on my list, which is nice.

I haven't seen anything solid from CoA. If I'm wrong, please point out where.

I wish Krystal would post more, regardless of Restriction(s). What's your stance on players for the wagon today? You can notion scummy / town and quote anything that backs it up.

[LynxKuroneko]

Fair enough, but why the change of heart?

[Bookitty]

@Lynx: I would like to see Policy Lynch and Catastrophe on your wagon for sure, please.

[copper223]

I like those two + Ghato

[Policy Vote]

And

even with the stated conclusion that we should lynch Lynx, the vote's nowhere in sight even though there's really nothing to wait for, which looks more like scum not wanting to look overeager than anything. She pays a lot of lip service to more discussion while not attempting to make much progress in developing more refined reads. They remain fairly skeletal.

-TTH

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I did not like these posts very much. Despite the fact that COA is my best scumread right now, I would be open to listening to them discuss why I should lynch this instead.

-Ceph

If you weren't getting a free pass today for being essentially a claimed vig, this would be scummy af.

I just said I wanted to policy lynch varsoon, so whatever case you get out of me is gonna have a healthy dose of 'irrational' and 'non-game related.' IME he's a liability to town and there's a decent chance he'll just quit under pressure leaving us with sonic, who is much easier to read.

Excuse me for not gathering that your desire to lynch FTL is policy based. Obviously, I must be scum for having missed this slight detail, and it is crazy that I would expect you to have actual reasons, which... you then go on to give... okay then?

@Boo
Lynx also has the other ability (which he considered negative...), which sthar8 calls self watcher, that tells him who targeted him during the night, assuming it works with faction kills, if scum targets him he can tell us.

I think it's a self-voyeur, and therefore not particularly helpful.

Gatho's also seems pretty town but the vote ability on purloined was already tested (there's a votecount with a vote on him but 0 sctually counted).

Gato really isn't that town to me just because they posted a couple walls. I think it's simplistic of you to give them a quick pass. Also, both players in that hydra are extremely good, to the point that I am planning to excuse myself from reading them and make orci do it if we're not dead soon

Also, Ceph, if it helps, I'm about 95% sure I know what Lynx is claiming and he's absolutely 100% playing his role correctly.

Assuming it's what copper says in a few pages, I suspected that, simply because nothing else could explain his behavior. I wish I knew the precise details, but probably, I guess.

My power would still happen if Neighborized. Neighborize me only if you feel I'm worth being a neighbor, obviously.

As for loverizer guy, you can either loverize two D1 non-voting players or wait one more day to find scummier targets.

Neighborizing you means that message + my neighborize guarantees the information from your Great Journey to Heaven comes to town, unless it's public and we have no need for that worry, in which case I'll find out when you cross over.

FWIW I think postmortem neighborizing us would be a pretty good thing. However, I will admit, I'm actually a little worried that you could be scum and might use us as legitimacy. However, our postmortem posting ability might be able to resolve this issue.

Sorry if any of this is no longer relevant but I gotta catch up my way.

-Ceph

[Policy Vote]

Oh. In other news, I think Ghato is town now. I don't see scum proposing this strategy UNLESS Lynx is scum too and I'm convinced that is not the case.

I don't buy this as easily as you do

No offence, but lynx isn't one of the stronger players here imo. I wouldn't see why scumghato would not rather neighbourise weak town and leave strong town to die.

This

Let's just get this out of the way before we waste any time on trying to figure kthx out, shall we.

I'm The Conqueror Worm. I am of the Morbid (as if I'd claim anything else). I enable full card flips. Upon my death, only character's and their alignment will be flipped. Not much better than VT and if ya'll think keeping town PR's from scum is worth it, lynch me.

Just know, copper is scum and you'll all feel silly the longer you wait to lynch him.

P.edit: hey TS, did you miss the part where I give less than no shits on D1...like ever?

Why in the sweet everloving fuck would you claim this under almost no pressure?

Medea the Alien: down here as essentially a penalty for being cabd

Implying you'd have me at town otherwise for a single post?

No, your null would be even deader than it was

Townreads on copper, ghato, tier. The start thing too. Not nearly as townreading of bookitty as I expected to be? More reads once I've had a deeper re-read, penguin's promised me to read and give her input as well.

The amount of claiming here is giving me hives because knowing ffery there's definitely ways to punish claimed abilities.

Agreed, the setup we're seeing here virtually guarantees at least one roleblocker and probably something else too because we should not get away with this

-Ceph

[Policy Vote]

No, what I am saying, and I need to work on being more clear is I feel like scum would have said, "We'll be voteless for 3 days (or realistically since it is variable for X days)." That is all they would have said. Tier instead said. "We are voteless for X days, which is a variable number, and we have powers attached to that variable number." They gave us information that they didn't have to, without being prodded for it. This feels town to me.

This gets its own post for sheer unadulterated no. What if they're scum and X actually is variable. They aren't going to make up a number. You lose, go home.