Mini 1638: Mafia lottery - GG


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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:53 pm

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I've also seen Mafia roleblocked on NK's, and I've seen them deliberately withhold their NK.
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:54 pm

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Yeah, but not in a 13p.
This is not Lylo.
if we lynch a town, we will be at 5:1:3, and ill only have 4 points.
I wont be able to scumside.
Seriously, why would i have an ability to rig raffles if i didnt have another need for points?
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:55 pm

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Point is, you never have a game that can be a perfect scum win in 2 days. Ya just dont.
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:33 pm

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Sorry, been busy. Will be caught up tomorrow.
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:37 pm

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Please dont hammer me yet.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:41 pm

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There is no reason for eyestott to be at L-1 this early in the day.

Could we get one vote off of him for now?
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:52 pm

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Oh, also, eyestott proved some parts of his role (particularly being able to rig the raffle), and unless you think the setup was designed around the idea of Maf being able to completely take one lottery ability off the market, I don't know why you're wagoning him. The wagon is probably scum-driven. There was something else that concerned me about eyestott, but after some thought I didn't think it was scum-indicative (or even anti-town).

I won't stop you from lynching him, but I won't be joining that wagon either.

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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:54 pm

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^ Scum off the wagon posting, right thar.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:58 pm

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If you dont think i'm scum, then why arent you trying to stop my early lynch?
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:06 pm

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Because your continued existence will be a distraction and give both town and scum to generate noise over what to do with you. I plan on driving my own wagon once I fully catch up (assuming you live that long).
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:10 pm

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I'll explain my personal disinterest in lynching you tomorrow.
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:20 pm

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Oh, one last thing. Please don't end the day before everyone gets a chance to bid on raffles. Much appreciated.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:37 pm

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Heartless wrote:I just ISO'ed every single player this game in series. The only people interested in an eyestott lynch were: Antihero, MathBlade, and 2birds.

Which is exactly what the vote count
and
Anti told me.


@ All: What's the town motivation in Heartless lying in this post?

She made this post to try to rebut my scum read for attempting to start a flashwagon. Heartless claimed to ISO everyone, but conveniently missed several that gave indications of supporting a d2 lynch on eyestott.

Coming from TTH, I don't buy it for a second. She's analytical and scary good as town. That she's making such shallow arguments that even
-I-
can poke meteor-sized holes in tells me that this slot is scum.
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:43 pm

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Heartless wrote:
House wrote:TTH, you're a force to be reckoned with when you're town... that you're being so derptastic and scrambling for half-baked excuses breaks my heart because I really wanted the benefit of having your analytical mind in this game.

The narrative of "everyone's cool with an eyestott lynch" is
not
supported by the vote counts.


Heartless keeps dogging on the "votecounts" excuse even after they were shown several quotes of people who would support a d2 eyestott lynch instead of simply admitting they were wrong. Not like town!TTH at all to be unwilling to take indisputable proof into consideration.

Heartless wrote:
There's a dwindling list of reasons why 2birds was lynched.

If you're telling me otherwise, something is seriously wrong.


How can the number of reasons for a past action be "dwindling"?

(Already mentioned by someone else but worth restating)
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:44 pm

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Heartless wrote:
House wrote:Pine, Silverwolf, Peacebringer, and Mathblade were all easy sells for a D2 eyestott lynch, as has been shown here today.

That just supports my case on Heartless.

In your words, why was 2birds lynched yesterday? (I'd like to hear
your
paraphrase, there's a reason I'm asking.)

Same question for you eyestott.


Then they tried to put me on the defensive for the 2b1s lynch because I was bringing too much heat down on their heads.

Unfortunately for them, I wasn't on that wagon.
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:51 pm

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Compare Heartless' posting in this game with TTH's posts in
Open 577: Hope Plus One
.

Do you see a remote similarity in quality between the two games?
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:59 pm

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House wrote:
Heartless wrote:
House wrote:Pine, Silverwolf, Peacebringer, and Mathblade were all easy sells for a D2 eyestott lynch, as has been shown here today.

That just supports my case on Heartless.

In your words, why was 2birds lynched yesterday? (I'd like to hear
your
paraphrase, there's a reason I'm asking.)

Same question for you eyestott.


Then they tried to put me on the defensive for the 2b1s lynch because I was bringing too much heat down on their heads.

Unfortunately for them, I wasn't on that wagon.


New question... considering how hard they were leaning on supposed VCA, how did they not realize I was not on 2b1s' wagon?
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:18 am

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MathBlade is scum with Heartless for two reasons.

1) She refuses to analyze the interaction between Heartless and I because of one poorly worded post. That's not town. There's still scumhunting that can be done in our interaction outside of that post.
2) She tries to make it sound like the personal attacks were an ongoing thing that she got tired of reading, when it was a single post that crossed the line.

I'm willing to vote either one of these two today, but I'd prefer a Heartless lynch with a Math wagon tomorrow.


If you'll notice, my two scumreads are independent of their stances on lynching eyestott (the flashwagon case is relevant regardless of the target). That said, notice how they both feel about wanting eyestott lynched asap. Scum doesn't like us having a way to block them from going after our vig shot and similar raffles, and they don't like us knowing what the mafia raffles are.

Lynching eyestott is anti-town because it provides scum an opportunity to win anti-town raffles and deprives town of information (scum raffles).
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:52 am

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House wrote:MathBlade is scum with Heartless for two reasons.

1) She refuses to analyze the interaction between Heartless and I because of one poorly worded post. That's not town. There's still scumhunting that can be done in our interaction outside of that post.
2) She tries to make it sound like the personal attacks were an ongoing thing that she got tired of reading, when it was a single post that crossed the line.

I'm willing to vote either one of these two today, but I'd prefer a Heartless lynch with a Math wagon tomorrow.


If you'll notice, my two scumreads are independent of their stances on lynching eyestott (the flashwagon case is relevant regardless of the target). That said, notice how they both feel about wanting eyestott lynched asap. Scum doesn't like us having a way to block them from going after our vig shot and similar raffles, and they don't like us knowing what the mafia raffles are.

Lynching eyestott is anti-town because it provides scum an opportunity to win anti-town raffles and deprives town of information (scum raffles).


I agree with this and I think Flubb does too.

VOTE: Heartless

I'm not seeing the deliberate and methodical reasoning from TTH that I expect from her townplay and I still think Math is scum.
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:21 am

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I'm super busy and will read everything since I last posted later but I have an important question.

@eyestott-Why did you take the gun before anyone else had a chance to answer your question about whether you should or not that you asked here?

eyestott wrote:Okay, assuming I'm lynched today, would people like me to rig the kill, so no one gets it?
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:23 am

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Because I'm at l-1. I can change my rig when I want, but for now, it's a favour for you guys that'll keep the amount of night kills down to 1.
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:24 am

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Considering I'm at l-1, can you unvote?
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:25 am

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Also, you were like, the only one to respond to it.
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:33 am

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UNVOTE:

My vote is still on eyestott for the reasons I gave and will go back there later. This is just to prevent an accidental hammer.

We need time to discuss other suspects, bid on raffles, and I need to re-read a few things and give others a chance to comment on the game and not end the day too early.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:38 am

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Exactly. Thank you.
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