Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[House]

no but that's also a stupid question. Obviously 50/50 are better odds than 33% but the question is which kind of powers serve town the best.

Precisely. And also, which powers hurt town the least if they fall in scum hands.

If scum get a vig shot, that's terribad. They'll know damned well they're shooting town when they take the shot, but town will just write it off as another mislynch.

Vig shot votes are a scum claim. We need information, not uninformed or accelerated kills.

[Nero Cain]

also

Once a player has been "geared" they may not receive additional powers, and no rerolls are allowed

if we bought 3 I wouldn't want to use it until we kind of have a better idea of who we want dead and it would just be sitting on a player and they couldn't get anything else.

also I'm a cheapskate and don't want to spend 12 tokens.

[Nero Cain]

And also, which powers hurt town the least if they fall in scum hands.

If scum get a vig shot, that's terribad. They'll know damned well they're shooting town when they take the shot, but town will just write it off as another mislynch.

I love House so much....no watch him flip scum.

[Xombie]

There is no limit on the amount of times

the town

can purchase from a Tier.

[Nero Cain]

though I guess we can buy the vig and shoot acryon

[House]

If you folks are dead certain that only town can get gear, we should be spending as few tokens as possible for gear.

In late game, anyone that isn't geared is a scum claim. Mass claim, go.

That's why I believe these roles can go to scum unless the mod specifically states otherwise.

[Nero Cain]

It's the probability combined with the power/usefulness of the role.

And we do you think a killing role is more useful than a investigation?

[Xombie]

That'd be pretty whack if scum could get the power
I think they just vote for show here

[TroubledTownie]

If you folks are dead certain that only town can get gear, we should be spending as few tokens as possible for gear.

In late game, anyone that isn't geared is a scum claim. Mass claim, go.

That's why I believe these roles can go to scum unless the mod specifically states otherwise.

Even if only town can get gear from the day-raid, it doesn't mean scum can't get gear during a night-raid.

[Nero Cain]

there's prob a "goon" (ungeared raider) on the scums I think it'd be wonky if there wasn't.

[House]

If you folks are dead certain that only town can get gear, we should be spending as few tokens as possible for gear.

In late game, anyone that isn't geared is a scum claim. Mass claim, go.

That's why I believe these roles can go to scum unless the mod specifically states otherwise.

Even if only town can get gear from the day-raid, it doesn't mean scum can't get gear during a night-raid.

Tell me, why would scum get investigative roles?

They could get stuff like roleblocker, and claim the role is jailer.

All the more reason to buy T1's.

[House]

Not liking the push for the expensive gear.

It's like scum is pushing us to squander our tokens early.

[TroubledTownie]

It is a good point about the number of gear we can purchase though. Worst-case, we could buy three Tier 1 items in the first 3 days, or only two items if one of them is Tier 3, or even Tier 2.

Maybe we'll get some clarification about the loot system, but for now (and because I don't want to risk a scum vig)

Buy: Tier 1

@House, you said "In late game, anyone that isn't geared is a scum claim.", that's what I was referring to.

[Xombie]

WTB DKP

[House]

I'd be all for a vig on D3 or later where we have more information, but there's no way I want to put that out there right off the bat.

Thanks for reconsidering, TT.

[Xombie]

It's just raiding 101.
Who wants Tier 1 when we can have Tier 3!?

Why cry our eyes out in LFR when we can wipe the floor in Mythic?

With 20 tokens, even if we got the Tier 1 both D1(8) and D2(8), it would still mean we would need a scum lynch to even be able to purchase anything come D3. And it would STILL be another Tier 1.

[Nero Cain]

Maybe we'll get some clarification about the loot system, but for now (and because I don't want to risk a scum vig)

loot system is mislynch/scum lynch. There might be some other random things we don't know yet.

[Xombie]

I'd be all for a vig on D3 or later where we have more information, but there's no way I want to put that out there right off the bat.

I agree with this though but just because we have it doesn't mean it needs to be used right away either
And it also doesn't take into consideration that a vig isn't guaranteed and that a jailor isn't some BOE green either

[Nero Cain]

Here's a question. Even if we bought a vig would we even use it? I say buy investigation b/c we are 100% using those

[TroubledTownie]

It's just raiding 101.
Who wants Tier 1 when we can have Tier 3!?

Why cry our eyes out in LFR when we can wipe the floor in Mythic?

With 20 tokens, even if we got the Tier 1 both D1(8) and D2(8), it would still mean we would need a scum lynch to even be able to purchase anything come D3. And it would STILL be another Tier 1.

2 mislynches would give us enough for the third Tier 1 item D3.

One scum lynch and we could afford Tier 2.

[kiwieagle]

I support t1 and t2 but t3 would be funner so theres that

[Xombie]

Okay yeah, my math sucks but still lol

[Xombie]

Are we a progression guild or ARE WE A PROGRESSION GUILD.

[killerjester]

@Mod: Could we get working definitions of the roles we can roll on?

We at KJ Entertainment are dedicated to the continued enjoyment of our playerbase. We've put our best wizards to the task of studying roles at Dalaran and documenting their effects. Working definitions have been added to the roles in each Item Tier as of Patch 1.1.1. Thanks for your patience.

-killerjester
Lead Developer

Patch 1.1.1 Vote Count

House (2):

acryon, ABR

ABR (1):

House

Nero Cain (1):

elusive

Not Voting (9):

TheFuzzylogic99, Nero Cain, GGG, Xombie, Ozgin, bankaikiller, TroubledTownie, eyestott, kiwieagle

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Tier 3 (4):

ABR, acryon, elusive, Xombie

Tier 1 (3):

House, Nero Cain, TroubledTownie

Tier 2 (1):

kiwieagle

Deadline: Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-10 11:40:00).

[Ozgin]

Hmm, already seeing some really interesting uh, "conversations" here.

But after reading it,

Buy Tier 1

VOTE: ABR