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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:05 am

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why, wisdom?
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:07 am

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Micc wrote:Tiershift and Not Mafia despite kind of actually being here, all I see is empty questions and a lack of analysis.

Actually, I'd like you to point out my empty questions.
I admit that I haven't done a ton of analysis, but certainly some that I fully stand behind. What exactly do you expect from me, and why do you feel I'm not living up to that?
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:05 am

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TierShift wrote:Micc, you might want to take a look at MS's predecessor LMS just hopping onto the kbw wagon.
Yeah. Lastmanstanding was the third vote on the kbw wagon, and the first that wasn't RVS. Ill agree that he didn't do much else, but I don't see that vote as being scummy.

TierShift wrote:You also might want to notice the disconnect between MS's reads and actions; he says kbw is scummiest but votes me for no stated reason.
He stated kbw was scummy (416), interacted with wisdom (420-476), voted kbw (478), called you scummy (482), voted you (483), then voted you again (489). All in that order. Maybe he decided you are more scummy? Ill agree that he should explain his reads, but I don't think the diconnect that you mentioned is really there.

TierShift wrote:I'm thinking micc might be scum; his read on me is very shallow and he doesn't engage to try and improve it.
When I find the time to actually engage people in this game ill come find you. Right now its lost somewhere between me actually having a social life this semester, and having other priorities.

TierShift wrote:Actually, I'd like you to point out my empty questions. I admit that I haven't done a ton of analysis, but certainly some that I fully stand behind. What exactly do you expect from me, and why do you feel I'm not living up to that?
I'm still thrown off by the "love this page" comment, and I don't exactly understand why 'love' was the word you chose based on your explanation. After that a good part of your ISO is you either pushing the LMS/MS wagon and calling the KBW null. The analysis that I think you are missing is what separates the two in your mind.

Spoiler: RE: Empty Questions
TierShift wrote:Egg, other reads?
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Bert wrote:Whichever slot metal sonic replaced is scum (LMS or Espeonage). Refer to: Organic Chemistry 1, Speedy Saki

explain. Not gonna read those games.
TierShift wrote:look, why would you ask town to test your claim?
TierShift wrote:why, wisdom?

About 60% of your recent ISO is you asking about other peoples reads. 30% of it is you pushing metal sonic wagon. You insist on finding out other players' explanations for their reads, but haven't done much analysis of your own, and it feels like empty noise. Are you really that interested to hear wisdom and bert explain why their reads are similar to your own? Or are you asking to look busy and engaged?
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:30 am

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Micc wrote:Yeah. Lastmanstanding was the third vote on the kbw wagon, and the first that wasn't RVS. Ill agree that he didn't do much else, but I don't see that vote as being scummy.

No, his hop on the wagon was awful. He didn't really scumread kbw; he just twisted his logic back at him and voted him for it. That is non-committal scum voting.
Micc wrote:He stated kbw was scummy (416), interacted with wisdom (420-476), voted kbw (478), called you scummy (482), voted you (483), then voted you again (489). All in that order. Maybe he decided you are more scummy? Ill agree that he should explain his reads, but I don't think the diconnect that you mentioned is really there.

Look, kbw was in his own TIER of scumminess. You don't just forego that for someone attacking you. That just doesn't add up, unless he has a damned good explanation. He has none. Have you seen one? Do you disagree?
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:45 am

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Micc wrote:I'm still thrown off by the "love this page" comment, and I don't exactly understand why 'love' was the word you chose based on your explanation. After that a good part of your ISO is you either pushing the LMS/MS wagon and calling the KBW null. The analysis that I think you are missing is what separates the two in your mind.

It was just RVS nonsense. Look how I expressed my dislike of page 2; page 3 was quite the opposite. That's why I said I loved it.

I do not understand what you mean by that analysis that is missing. I should explain again why I don't think kbw's behaviour is majorly scummy?

Answers inside the spoiler. I think all of those questions were relevant.
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TierShift wrote:Egg, other reads?
Egg had only expressed a scumread on a lurker at this time. That's very, very minimal and is not even to be called analysis. I asked him for other reads to see where his focus was at.

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Bert wrote:Whichever slot metal sonic replaced is scum (LMS or Espeonage). Refer to: Organic Chemistry 1, Speedy Saki

explain. Not gonna read those games.

If bert has a good meta scumtell, I will want to know. What's wrong with that?

TierShift wrote:look, why would you ask town to test your claim?

This is actually very relevant. If I'm town, and am unlynchable, I'm sure as hell not gonna waste the day by getting me lynched; that's like a no lynch! If he is 1-shot unlychable scum, I'd definitely understand why he'd want a no lynch. See what I'm getting at?
TierShift wrote:why, wisdom?
I'm trying to get a read on you and I actually value wisdom's opinion, despite what a lot of players say

I think most of these explanations were fairly basic and I doubt you really read my posts well. Do you still feel those questions were empty or are you going to retract that? Maybe give a few new examples?
About 60% of your recent ISO is you asking about other peoples reads. 30% of it is you pushing metal sonic wagon. You insist on finding out other players' explanations for their reads, but haven't done much analysis of your own, and it feels like empty noise. Are you really that interested to hear wisdom and bert explain why their reads are similar to your own? Or are you asking to look busy and engaged?

No, I'm actually interested in their reads, because I consider them good players. This is a fact, you can go check it if you want.
I want to know why my ISO feels like white noise.
I ask a lot of questions; how is that scummy? I push a wagon; what else am I supposed to do? I interact; how else am I going to get reads?

If you want one of the famous TierTM rereads and catchup posts, I don't give those out on command and you should know that.

Really, what the f do you expect from me?
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:23 pm

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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:47 pm

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Micc wrote:
TierShift wrote:Micc, you might want to take a look at MS's predecessor LMS just hopping onto the kbw wagon.
Yeah. Lastmanstanding was the third vote on the kbw wagon, and the first that wasn't RVS. Ill agree that he didn't do much else, but I don't see that vote as being scummy.

TierShift wrote:You also might want to notice the disconnect between MS's reads and actions; he says kbw is scummiest but votes me for no stated reason.
He stated kbw was scummy (416), interacted with wisdom (420-476), voted kbw (478), called you scummy (482), voted you (483), then voted you again (489). All in that order. Maybe he decided you are more scummy? Ill agree that he should explain his reads, but I don't think the diconnect that you mentioned is really there.

TierShift wrote:I'm thinking micc might be scum; his read on me is very shallow and he doesn't engage to try and improve it.
When I find the time to actually engage people in this game ill come find you. Right now its lost somewhere between me actually having a social life this semester, and having other priorities.

TierShift wrote:Actually, I'd like you to point out my empty questions. I admit that I haven't done a ton of analysis, but certainly some that I fully stand behind. What exactly do you expect from me, and why do you feel I'm not living up to that?
I'm still thrown off by the "love this page" comment, and I don't exactly understand why 'love' was the word you chose based on your explanation. After that a good part of your ISO is you either pushing the LMS/MS wagon and calling the KBW null. The analysis that I think you are missing is what separates the two in your mind.

Spoiler: RE: Empty Questions
TierShift wrote:Egg, other reads?
TierShift wrote:
Bert wrote:Whichever slot metal sonic replaced is scum (LMS or Espeonage). Refer to: Organic Chemistry 1, Speedy Saki

explain. Not gonna read those games.
TierShift wrote:look, why would you ask town to test your claim?
TierShift wrote:why, wisdom?

About 60% of your recent ISO is you asking about other peoples reads. 30% of it is you pushing metal sonic wagon. You insist on finding out other players' explanations for their reads, but haven't done much analysis of your own, and it feels like empty noise. Are you really that interested to hear wisdom and bert explain why their reads are similar to your own? Or are you asking to look busy and engaged?

This post proves that micc is town
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:47 pm

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We need more votes on tier shift
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:32 pm

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you misspelled micc
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:32 pm

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*Micc

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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:22 pm

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Metal Sonic: How about you explain the tiershift vote? And while you are at it, serious or not serious about being unlynchable?

TierShift wrote:Really, what the f do you expect from me?

Nothing more than I expect of any other player ... which is basically to be here and have an opinion I guess?

A scan of your ISO showed a whole lot of you asking for other opinions, and giving few of your own. Thats what I picked up on so thats what I wrote. Besides being a bit edgy about how you're being read, I actually like your recent posts starting with 498. They show what you are thinking, and
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you are thinking which was a big part of what I originally questioned.

So, now that we are (maybe) on the same page, lets talk about Metal Sonic:
I'm coming around to understanding your push, but I keep coming back to the unlynchable claim which plunges toward me wanting to see him lynched. Are you factoring in the claim to your read? Do you think 1-shot scum unlynchable is a possible role in this game?

Wisdom: Make a case or something. I don't understand what youre trying to push and I'm kind of annoyed that you ignored Tier's question about it.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:25 pm

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I don't make cases
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:34 pm

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because jamming your opinion down peoples throats is so much more effective than explaining it?

and you wonder why anti-wisdom sentiment exists?
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:30 pm

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Micc wrote:Metal Sonic: How about you explain the tiershift vote? And while you are at it, serious or not serious about being unlynchable?

TierShift wrote:Really, what the f do you expect from me?

Nothing more than I expect of any other player ... which is basically to be here and have an opinion I guess?

A scan of your ISO showed a whole lot of you asking for other opinions, and giving few of your own. Thats what I picked up on so thats what I wrote. Besides being a bit edgy about how you're being read, I actually like your recent posts starting with 498. They show what you are thinking, and
that
you are thinking which was a big part of what I originally questioned.

So, now that we are (maybe) on the same page, lets talk about Metal Sonic:
I'm coming around to understanding your push, but I keep coming back to the unlynchable claim which plunges toward me wanting to see him lynched. Are you factoring in the claim to your read? Do you think 1-shot scum unlynchable is a possible role in this game?

Wisdom: Make a case or something. I don't understand what youre trying to push and I'm kind of annoyed that you ignored Tier's question about it.


Serious.

And I kind of thought you made the case against tiershift for me lol, but for posterity he has not contributed an inkling to the game while asking others for contributions, typical scum pretending to interact
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:31 pm

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Wisdom wrote:I don't make cases


Vote tier with me
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:53 pm

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No?
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:50 pm

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Reading now
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:57 pm

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mod can u update the 1st post so i know who replaced who
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:58 pm

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Wisdom wrote:No?

Yes.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:09 pm

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Metal Sonic wrote:
Wisdom wrote:I don't make cases


Vote tier with me




So that you can stop suck
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:11 pm

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I'd rather vote you than vote tier
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:15 pm

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Page 11 - Agree with NM and I don't think KBW is scum either. Scum would try too hard to make good posts and that's not what I'm seeing in KBW. LMS is looking scummy at this point however.

Page 12 - Have no idea what that vote was for Wisdom, made no sense. @ It seemed like a serious tone to me.

Page 13 - LMS is still doing nothing and scum lurking. Marquis has done nothing the whole game, but I can't say much since I haven't either, but I at least did something for the first 10 pages. Blacklist conversation was unnecessary. Also someone saying they're going to blacklist you postgame isn't a scumread.

Page 14 - @Wisdom What? So you're getting on NM for thinking KBW is town but you also think he's town. Excuse is "It was just a good start wagon to get things." Not buying it. I'm agreeing with Micc. LMS still is scum lurking and hasn't done shit.

Page 15 - Agree with 350 about WKing. Marquis isn't doing anything still. Bert is town to me at this point.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:21 pm

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Wisdom wrote:I'd rather vote you than vote tier


There's a reason why there's an anti wisdom club not an anti sonic club



Please continue to suck, we'll pick you up later




Dear valued members of the town, I appeal to you to place a vote on to Tiershift because he is a prime suspect for a scum candidate
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:21 pm

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Flames682 wrote:Page 14 - @Wisdom What? So you're getting on NM for thinking KBW is town but you also think he's town.


Are you fucking kidding me? Is it the same wking someone and calling their wagon terrible and hunting scum off it, with explaining why you wagoned someone even though you didn't really think they were scum?
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:34 pm

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If KBW flips scum some people will be implicated
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