Open 581: Making Friends and Enemies! (Game over)

[Grib]

I'm not sure I like where this is going.

[elleheathen]

So to be clear about what I was getting at... the answer to those questions is that:

Yes. I am gambiting. This is my gambit:

Hm.
I'm kinda surprised with that flip that I wasn't recruited.
Glad - but surprised.
I srsly hope you got scum.

+

@dave:

Brain Edit: Wait, she said she wasn't recruited, which in this game is a VT claim. How is it town to claim VT right at the top of day 1? It just makes scum's job easier.

I'm not following what you are saying.

It is a VT claim to say you're not recruited. VT claims in a mason game narrow down the range of players who might be mason, and scum need to identify masons to eliminate them before LYLO (assuming the game gets that far). There is no good town motivation to claim, especially this early in the day.

There are scum reasons for doing it, in particular to fish for mason reactions like "how do you know anyone was recruited". Masons should keep their mouths shut BTW.

BS. Masons know not to say anything.

What I'm pointing out with it is that I think they would have recruited between:

Me. LR. GC. Grib. davesaz.

Since I wasn't, that leaves the other 4. And I'm pretty damn sure scum is in there.

I want scum to know I wasn't recruited. Because it increases the likelihood that they WERE.

And I get a warm feeling inside when I imagine them worrying about it, wondering when it'll come out, waiting, waiting.

Because I

was

recruited.

My intention with posting it was to make scum squirm a little bit - and see if there was any obvious changes to anyones play today. I figured that maybe scum would think they were caught and that their investment in the game may drop as a result with a 'why waste time posting' attitude. Or, take swag's reaction, for example. But hell, everyone seems to be lurking the hell out of this game.

And so to answer my question posed to swag?

I don't want anyone to hammer before we get a replacement for Picard, because Picard is the original mason with Cheetory.

And I want Picard's replacement in here to be able to confirm that.

Because while I realize that it means that one of us is dead once that happens, it also means that town has a conftown to not have to worry about coming into tomorrow.

And we need freaking

something

to balance out swag.

Now, scum

could

leave us both alive and let you all wifom against it but that would be pretty risky.

If we do get a replacement in time, I would guess that scum kills me at night over Picard.

If we don't get one in time, they'll kill Picard so that he can't confirm and then wifom against me next day.

[Titus]

Well there goes wifoming mason to protect you from an NK Elle
...

[Titus]

Yeah, I know. You were trying to help but it was only hurting.
Because I saw 'one of us' and I thought you may have slipped. So I asked whether you thought I had outed town or scum.
So when you said me or you, I realized you were still trying to cover up for me by creating wifom for something that I'm trying to

un

cover. lol

And you thought this course of action was good because?????

[Titus]

There's other evidence you are a mason Elle. Something more obvious I am keeping hidden unless someone challenges you.

[Heartless]

You didn't need to do that elle, but it's really not that big of a deal that you did. I've known Picard was the other mason for a while now I suspect Green Crayons did too. It was a relatively simple exercise of "take the player list and eliminate anyone Cheetory ever scumread or expressed legitimate doubts on." It only left Picard's slot.

[elleheathen]

I was intending to out it from the time I gave you the headtilt smile.
Keeping masons a secret at this point is only good if there's a good chance that we'll actually live through the next night or so - and I'm not seeing that.
As it stood, I had too many townreads going on as it is and because scum wouldn't be outed before the day is out, they would know that town was recruited.
And I mean, I'm the obvious Cheetory choice.
So I just had a fairly good feeling that I was dead with all these townreads anyway so I wanted to make sure that whoever of us survived the night, was conftown for tomorrow.

[davesaz]

OK, so the reason I've been quiet is I've been trying to figure out why it wasn't obvious to immediately lynch either Swag or Kaboose. Too many people shut down on that and it implied that some other subtext was going on, but I was having no luck identifying it.

[Titus]

The subtext is Swag is obvious scum but I cannot get the numbers on him. He fakeclaimed mason after mason fishing but we either got dumb town or scum defending him.

[Grib]

We have one mislynch left, and one potential No Lynch after that. Do we want to clear up the Swag controversy or what? Because if we lynch him and he flips town, I will tap dance on Titus' face.

[elleheathen]

You didn't need to do that elle, but it's really not that big of a deal that you did. I've known Picard was the other mason for a while now I suspect Green Crayons did too. It was a relatively simple exercise of "take the player list and eliminate anyone Cheetory ever scumread or expressed legitimate doubts on." It only left Picard's slot.

Idk... I guess I feel like if it were that obvious, someone else would have questioned Grib trying to lynch Picard and Mala scumreading the slot.

[elleheathen]

And if it was obvious, then it's even more of a reason

for

me to out that I was the one recruited before we get to night and make sure one of us is conftown. Not less of a reason.

[Grib]

Hey Mala, pretty sure I asked you to elaborate on scum!GC, not to dotdotdot at Titus and elle.

[Titus]

And if it was obvious, then it's even more of a reason

for

me to out that I was the one recruited before we get to night and make sure one of us is conftown. Not less of a reason.

*shrug* I thought it was obvious in a Titus sort of way. Obvious to me but everyone else derped. Hence why I wanted to wifom mason. *sigh* I suck.

[Grib]

I will lynch Whatisswag for the Mason fishing + fakeclaim and because we only have one mislynch left, and then davesaz, Malakittens, or Kaboose for glory. Everyone else is town.

[Titus]

Great. Let's do it then.

VOTE: Swag

[Grib]

VOTE: Whatisswag

That should be L-2: me, Titus, and Kaboose.

[elleheathen]

Swag is lynchbait.

[elleheathen]

But yeah, vote with the guy that was trying to lynch 'obvious' mason Picard and then switches to his town, lynchbait read on swag.

[Grib]

Wow, I sure wish I had the ability to change my mind in light of new, concrete information.

[Heartless]

LOL

grib+kaboose+gc

jig's up, ya'll. who wants to go first?

[Heartless]

Wow, I sure wish I had the ability to change my mind in light of new, concrete information.

for the Mason fishing + fakeclaim

HAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAA

KEEP DIGGIN', SCUM

[Grib]

You wish.

[Grib]

The new information being the Mason claims.

I shouldn't have to explain this.

[Heartless]

grib if you bus gc, we'll let you go last. you can at least preserve some of your dignity