Mini 1630: Edgar Allan Poe uPick GAME OVER!

[copper223]

@Tool
CoA claimed in response to FTL and they claimed the most unlynchable role, so not having a result today is suspect, further I can buy sthar not questioning kthxbye, but TTH is usually much more thorough about checking claims as town, this time it looks like she just swallowed it and that is questionable. At the moment I still lean town on them but treating them as confirmed is a bad idea.

As for the double claim, I still do not know why Krystal traded like that, by the shrug from Nika and since it looked like she did not really know what was going on, I think the most likely case is what Kthxbye presented, Mantis was bored of the restriction and found an easy trade, in this case I doubt what happened to the rest of us was a factor.

In general since I don't fully understand the trade it's hard to see a plan behind what scum did, if there is a solid reason in the setup to get rid of Kthxbye, then CoA will look townier but we can't say so at thr moment.

[Catastrophe]

in this case I doubt what happened to the rest of us was a factor.

Not sure I'm understanding you here -- who are you talking about when you say "us"?

[TierShift]

I'm shaking my head really hard.

well, kthx did flip town, so letting krystal confirm me was probably not the best thing to do!

[Catastrophe]

@Tier: Can you explain (without giving away your role) why you couldn't have just done whatever your power is to somebody other than Krystal last night?

[copper223]

in this case I doubt what happened to the rest of us was a factor.

Not sure I'm understanding you here -- who are you talking about when you say "us"?

It means if Krystal's cc was really motivated by being bored about the game and the restriction, I doubt they could have cared less if their hypothtical teammate CoA had to claim or not, likely they did not even read that part in this case.

[Catastrophe]

So you used the word "us" to refer to Cask?

[TierShift]

Because it doesn't matter

[Catastrophe]

Why doesn't it matter? Isn't it a good thing if you're confirmed?

[copper223]

So you used the word "us" to refer to Cask?

No it refers to everyone else in the game.

[CaskOfAmontillado]

this time it looks like she just swallowed it

*gasp*

Well, I never...

[CaskOfAmontillado]

I still do not know why Krystal traded like that

You said it yourself, but you left out the fact Krystal wasn't in danger of being lynched anyway and that made the trade even more baffling.

Plus the claim was really specific. It wasn't "I'm a cop, I have a guilty" or something general like that. It was "I'm a

rolecop

and I have this result he's a

strongman.

"

[TierShift]

Why doesn't it matter? Isn't it a good thing if you're confirmed?

I guess? Like it matters today.

I still do not know why Krystal traded like that

You said it yourself, but you left out the fact Krystal wasn't in danger of being lynched anyway and that made the trade even more baffling.

Plus the claim was really specific. It wasn't "I'm a cop, I have a guilty" or something general like that. It was "I'm a

rolecop

and I have this result he's a

strongman.

"

I think the fact that the claim was specific is not important. It was just a smart move by nikanor. There's more that can meddle with a cop guilty than with a rolecop strongman guilty.

Krystal was on the list of getting lynched sometime, so the fact that he did this doesn't surprise me too much, in hindsight. Why kthx, though, is much more of a question. He was more or less useless to the town.
Perhaps scum benefit extremely from not getting flips? Seems weird.

[copper223]

@CoA
That was to avoid the: we leave them both alive and lynch a third party case, say Medea. I also think it's likely one of the scumteam had a strongman 1-shot they took the idea from and it was wasted on Policy yesterday, that's why Brantz had to be killed before you if this is the case.

[Ghatokaca]

You think I am scum after yesterday? I think you need to play other games.

Are you really trying to call yourself town beyond all town because you believed kthx for a moment? Because that's a gigantic pile of bullshit.

[Ghatokaca]

Copper I don't know why you think you look so obvtown. From where we're sitting you're right up there as being one of the most likely scum. But for the sake of thoroughness, would you care to make an argument for why you're town?

Are you kidding me Tool? I was the only one who even thought that Kthxbye might be town, you just wanted to lynch him end of story. You really think I put doubt in your minds as scum and play around with the lynch by fake hammering him and giving him a chance to recover? You're out of your mind if you are town.

And why is this town, exactly?

[Ghatokaca]

I find it funny that if you are town you are scumreading me because I'm better than you btw.

Actually, I'm scumreading you because you didn't defend the kthx wagon in any significant way and then backed off and now you're trying to act like it makes you confirmed town.

[Ghatokaca]

@CoA
Ghato also said he was influenced when trying to neighborize Lynx, do you think it's possible it's the same role from scum messing with them, and if so why do you think Ghato are scum, if not why not?

My QT closing didn't happen because of role irnteractions.

[TierShift]

Is F-16 ever gonna post?

If the QT is still open, why can't you convey lynx's thoughts.

[copper223]

@Ghato
How is switching votes not defending Kthx, there is no clearer signal you can give, once again there is no reason to fake hammer as scum there jeopardizing Krystal's play, so your scumread here is most likely faked because you have to scumread one player on the wagon, Cat already scumreads me and who knows about Reck so this is almost guaranteed scum opportunistically pushing, nice of you to come out of hiding to out yourselves.

After I did change my mind I got 4 players, all presumed town, telling me that he was scum so I thought about it and since the trade really doesn't make sense I went with logic over a gut read, I also did not see a way that town was not going to lynch Kthxbye so there wasn't much that could be done in any case.

I'm finishing my ongoing games and that's it here so scum kindly kill me ASAP.

[TierShift]

you don't like it here?

[copper223]

Just need a brake I guess.

[TierShift]

guys, deadline is approaching. just finish this.
VOTE: krystal bald

[Krystal Bald]

*Shrugs.*

Vote: Krystal Bald.

[Ghatokaca]

I'm here. I've been very out of this game for some reason. I'll catch up tonight and analyze the game tomorrow. Hopefully, the one benefit is that I'll get to look at the game objectively not having been involved very much in it.

[Catastrophe]

Well, no, we had 11 days until deadline. But OK.

Medea, FtL, anything to say?