Open 587 - Nightless Vengeful Mayhem [Game Over]

[Wisdom]

Vote Count 1.4

Albert B. Rampage (3)

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vettrock, droog, Zymf

Sup-Zero (3)

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Albert B. Rampage, Morgan, texcat

Astinus (2)

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Sup-Zero, Teapot

vettrock (1)

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archaebob

Not Voting:

theslimer3, TheCow, Astinus

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-14 21:36:32).

[texcat]

@Sup, I'd certainly like to hear more about why Astinus would be a good player to look at, but I guess I can wait until Friday.

[Shinobi]

Nah, I can just tell you now.

The conclusion I came to in my conversation with Xay is that Astinus is unorthodox: that is, she doesn't play an easily-readable style that's hugely obvious and beneficial to one side. I wouldn't even consider it a "serious" vote in any regard: that's just kind of where I felt like voting at the time based on what little time I spent analyzing and playing the game thus far.

[Sup-Zero]

Nah, I can just tell you now.

The conclusion I came to in my conversation with Xay is that Astinus is unorthodox: that is, she doesn't play an easily-readable style that's hugely obvious and beneficial to one side. I wouldn't even consider it a "serious" vote in any regard: that's just kind of where I felt like voting at the time based on what little time I spent analyzing and playing the game thus far.

[vettrock]

I can see the validity in what texcat is saying but I want to see what she thinks of my more recent posts before giving some kind of read on her. I'd also like to consult Xay but idk if I'll actually get his opinion on anything until later on.

This is the best vote you could come up with?

Are you doing something better with yours?

This is the best vote you could come up with?

Are you doing something better with yours?

Touche...I guess that is one way to look at it.

Is something going to happen here or what?

Arch, what exactly are you trying to accomplish with your vote? What are you trying to get out of vettrock by doing so? It seems somewhat unprompted, and while vet has been around to respond, you haven't really done anything with it. Should I be expecting some sort of follow up or explanation at the very least?

I've been around to respond, yes. but what am I responding to? a naked vote? I'll admit I don't have anything be hind my vote, but I think that can be said for a lot of people at this point.

[Astinus]

Are we still in RVS? Just wondering, because I'm not sure of my initial reads any more.

And I know my play is unorthodox, but that's okay. I like to be vague and not give any explicit hints as to which side I might be on.

[Sup-Zero]

That's not necessarily my issue, per se. If you have nothing behind your vote, why not go find better reasons to vote someone? Arch seems to be content voting you for doing nothing, but isn't prodding you along to get information or try and gauge how you feel about the rest of the game at large despite you being around to answer questions and respond to pressure.

Or should I take it that I should sheep him and leave?

[Sup-Zero]

^ Above aimed at vettrock, naturally.

@Astinus: share your reads plx? I see one on Zymf but that's about it, though I see you alluding to other reads you might have. Might make it easier for us to read you, ftr.

[Teapot]

Can we wagon a lurker like ABR/Droog?
Where are the prods?

[Morgan]

Hm. So far, Teapot has:

- attacked someone who is likely newbtown
- gave up after two posts of "pressure" and claims it was a reaction test, looks a little backtrack-y
- calls out droog on playing differently with no real follow-up or pressure
- asks Astinus a leading question about droog
- focuses on my town!droog read, but not on the townread of mine he's currently voting
- asks droog a vague throwaway question instead of actually pushing him
- says he's not going to comment on everything when I ask him why he questioned me on droog but not Astinus -- feels slightly defensive, as I really only asked him one question
- asks for more activity/pushes/content, but he himself isn't really pushing the people he should be or has claimed to want content from (droog being the main example)
- wants to wagon lurkers like ABR and droog, but makes no mention of archaebob (all he's really posted is a short survey that doesn't appear to have any immediate relevancy)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Teapot

[droog]

V/la
See you sat ur day

[TheCow]

Though I dislike much of Tea's behavior, any attacks on it that I could make would likely appear hypocritical in nature. That being said, with such a long Day Phase, we really don't need to "wagon" anyone this early.

Can someone explain "RVS" to me please? Random Voting Stage?

[vettrock]

Though I dislike much of Tea's behavior, any attacks on it that I could make would likely appear hypocritical in nature. That being said, with such a long Day Phase, we really don't need to "wagon" anyone this early.

Can someone explain "RVS" to me please? Random Voting Stage?

Yes, Random Voting Stage.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=On_The_RVS

The wiki can explain it probably better than I can.

[Wisdom]

Albert B. Rampage has been prodded.

V/la
See you sat ur day

Noted.

[vettrock]

Though I dislike much of Tea's behavior, any attacks on it that I could make would likely appear hypocritical in nature. That being said, with such a long Day Phase, we really don't need to "wagon" anyone this early.

Can someone explain "RVS" to me please? Random Voting Stage?

Yes, Random Voting Stage.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=On_The_RVS

The wiki can explain it probably better than I can.

More of an explanation than instruction:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Random_Vote

[Morgan]

Oh, and Teapot is also pushing for other people to start the lurker wagon for him, making it look like he's attempting to sidestep being responsible for it. Forgot to add that.

[vettrock]

Oh, and Teapot is also pushing for other people to start the lurker wagon for him, making it look like he's attempting to sidestep being responsible for it. Forgot to add that.

I'm generally of the opinion that town tends to lurk a bit more during the beginning, and scum lurks more later in the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Astinus

Let's shake things up.

[Morgan]

Oh, and Teapot is also pushing for other people to start the lurker wagon for him, making it look like he's attempting to sidestep being responsible for it. Forgot to add that.

I'm generally of the opinion that town tends to lurk a bit more during the beginning, and scum lurks more later in the game.

What's your point?

[vettrock]

Oh, and Teapot is also pushing for other people to start the lurker wagon for him, making it look like he's attempting to sidestep being responsible for it. Forgot to add that.

I'm generally of the opinion that town tends to lurk a bit more during the beginning, and scum lurks more later in the game.

What's your point?

Just commenting on the pushing the lurker wagon part.

I'm generally not in favor of lynch all lurkers at the beginning of the game, but it can be somewhat of a tell later in the game. Depends.

[Morgan]

So you think Teapot is pushing a mislynch, if you believe early lurkers are town.

[Teapot]

So you think Teapot is pushing a mislynch, if you believe early lurkers are town.

Nope, it's a pressure wagon. We vote somebody so they get bck in here and post, them we change votes. It useless doing it on my own hence I waited to look if other supported the idea.

[vettrock]

So you think Teapot is pushing a mislynch, if you believe early lurkers are town.

Early lurkers tend towards town, is not the same a saying early lurkers ARE town. I could very well be a mislynch, but I don't think we are at that point yet.

[Wisdom]

Zymf and theslimer3 have been prodded.

[Wisdom]

bump