Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[MathBlade]

1 shot vig comes from tauren and speak after dead comes from druid?

Im I the only one with nothing but a shitty useless racial with my class also being useless?

Nope...My stuff is pretty useless too.

Yay I can change the colors bleh. :/ Not quite sure what good that can do. But House is more than likely scum.

[Ozgin]

Come on guys, vote Math. Elusive made a scummy slip, and MathBlade came in actively pushing a wagon for a reason that could be clarified in a PM(why would town be so eager to possibly mislynch?), was manipulating the wagon to be "Either this player or that one", and only backed off when votes started on him for it.

[Ozgin]

I agree with TT (Sorry I submitted the quote prematurely). I also don;t like that Math has ABR fingered for scum, because even I moved on from that after a while.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: MathBlade

[House]

1 shot vig comes from tauren and speak after dead comes from druid?

Im I the only one with nothing but a shitty useless racial with my class also being useless?

Speaks after dead comes from Tauren.

Vig comes from Role PM.

[House]

Actually...

UNVOTE:

No reason for me to self-vote and deny town info when I can get the same result by claiming.

I'm a 1-shot vig. My claim is verifiable by having town decide who to vig (I'd recommend this happen tonight, as I'll likely be targeted by scum tonight). That night, there should be 2 NK's. Scum's and the vig target.

Of course, I'll likely be killed too, which will get me out of having to put up with this garbage.

It'll also ensure I don't live to MyLo at any rate, because I suck in MyLo and have cost town the game more than once with my sporadic decision making.

Win/win.

1) Let's assume this claim is true (which I think it is crap) then you'd likely shoot your top scumspect regardless of what people are actually voting as you should be aiming to hit scum NOT popular opinion. The popular wagons are you and me. By giving you a free pass, we'd probably lynch me who is town and you'd end up shooting another person who has a higher probability of being town rather than scum.

In contrast if we lynch you and you are telling the truth and then the scum NK we are down two townies instead of three.

However the most likely scenario is that you are lying and trying to preserve yourself. If you are lying and we preserve you then the next day we pretty much have to quick lynch you to avoid your scum partners talking out of it.

Yeah no... This just sounds desperate.

Your theorycraft is crap.

If the person town chooses doesn't die overnight, I'm dead.

If the game continues having 2 NK's, I'm dead.

And the reason I am interested in getting feedback from town on who to target is... yes, you're right... I *don't* want blowback for targeting a townie, and wasting my 1 shot to do so. DUH! If we can come to a consensus, then there is no one person to blame and there's far more reason behind the target being shot.

You've seen my moonlogic. Do you really trust me to make a smart decision with a vig shot? Cuz I sure as hell don't. I'd kill Nero, straight up. Then town would get piss if I am wrong (which I doubt), and lynch me for it. So yeah... town SHOULD have a say.

[Titus]

I do not want to lynch House today.

If we force House to shoot Math, we get two lynches.

[Titus]

Or better yet, we lynch Math and force House to shoot someone we suspect is his buddy. Win Win.

[Nero Cain]

If we force House to shoot Math, we get two lynches.

Who would you want dead if we don't lynch House?

[Nero Cain]

It'll also ensure I don't live to MyLo at any rate, because I suck in MyLo and have cost town the game more than once with my sporadic decision making.

I *don't* want blowback for targeting a townie

notice the cong dis in these two statements.

I think if House were town and REALLY thought I was scum he wouldn't give a shit but this is all ignoring the fact that he's likely not a vig anyways. I mean yeah, he has bullets 'cause he's scum but doesn't have a pro-town alignment.

[Titus]

If we force House to shoot Math, we get two lynches.

Who would you want dead if we don't lynch House?

Math.

After Math, Fuzzy but I get more awkward tells than alignment tells from him.

[Titus]

It'll also ensure I don't live to MyLo at any rate, because I suck in MyLo and have cost town the game more than once with my sporadic decision making.

I *don't* want blowback for targeting a townie

notice the cong dis in these two statements.

I think if House were town and REALLY thought I was scum he wouldn't give a shit but this is all ignoring the fact that he's likely not a vig anyways. I mean yeah, he has bullets 'cause he's scum but doesn't have a pro-town alignment.

Wrong. Him asking town makes his role confirmable or tells us about the setup.

[Nero Cain]

House is scum. Stop letting his ATE and manipulative "role" claim fool you.

[MathBlade]

Yeah look at how convenient this is. :/ Surprise surprise House is scum :/ He just changes his vote because he thinks he'll live.

*facepalms*

If you lynch me I will flip town and I would want House and ABR dead. They're both likely scum together. With possibly Oz for the blatant sheep.

[Xombie]

Sorry all, catching up here tonight

[House]

It'll also ensure I don't live to MyLo at any rate, because I suck in MyLo and have cost town the game more than once with my sporadic decision making.

I *don't* want blowback for targeting a townie

notice the cong dis in these two statements.

I think if House were town and REALLY thought I was scum he wouldn't give a shit but this is all ignoring the fact that he's likely not a vig anyways. I mean yeah, he has bullets 'cause he's scum but doesn't have a pro-town alignment.

I actually wish I was.

I'm in my comfort zone as scum. I enjoy that alignment and that play comes natural to me.

Town roles, especially PR's are one big ball of stress.

[Xombie]

Wtf.

Am I the only one that thinks that's absolute bullshit?

And the likelihood of even having a town that isn't a UNGEARED raider is slim to none.

ESPECIALLY when we have an option to pick Tier 3 which might actually GIVE us a vig?

Not to mention that our racials so far seem to be pretty meh, at best. But his is a vig?

Cmon.

VOTE: House

[Titus]

Feeling real uncomfortable w Zombie atm...

That 180

[Albert B. Rampage]

I really like Ozgin for scum.

[MathBlade]

Oooh I think I hit the nail on the head.

House is likely scum and ABR is seeming to ignore the entire brewhaha because he knows I'm town. Town ABR isn't scared to vote and pressure.
Town ABR also doesn't ignore my questions either.

Ozgin is still a maybe but Scum ABR likes to try to get credit for things, but House+ABR first as I'm more sure about them.

The only thing I might be wrong in is that House is SK and no one even mentioned or hinted at the possibility of an SK until House posted that 2 NKs might happen repeatedly. Either way we need to lynch House today.

@Xombie Yep good point

[MathBlade]

Feeling real uncomfortable w Zombie atm...

That 180

What's wrong sis? Have to admit I'm town? *sigh* I notice how you aren't addressing the logical point either. You're straining the limits of believability here.

[Nero Cain]

Which one is older?

[TroubledTownie]

Wtf.

Am I the only one that thinks that's absolute bullshit?

And the likelihood of even having a town that isn't a UNGEARED raider is slim to none.

Tell us more about what roles there are and aren't. Use a magic 8-ball?

ESPECIALLY when we have an option to pick Tier 3 which might actually GIVE us a vig?

We could buy Tier 3 twice and get 2 vigs anyway. Maybe having a vig would make us want to get an investigative role even more.

Not to mention that our racials so far seem to be pretty meh, at best. But his is a vig?

No. Words matter.

Speaks after dead comes from Tauren.

Vig comes from Role PM.

[MathBlade]

Which one is older?

I'm assuming you mean between Titus and I.

I am by a whole shiny minute

Role PM older twin sister unlocked.

[Nero Cain]

you guys. This talk about roles is all kinda useless 'cause its ignoring the fact that he he's using mindless rhetoric to get out of discussing in game situations. He was asked to explain his Math town read, he spent time not answering said question. When I brought this up for why that made him scummy he claimed that I was

deflecting

. This is bullshit and bullshit is 90x more likely to come from scum than town.

[TroubledTownie]

... he did answer you Nero. Just because you don't

like

the answer doesn't mean he didn't answer.