Mini 1637- Pokemon Generation I uPick (Game Over)

[TierShift]

More serious business:
NotMafia is probably scum upon ISO read
Wisdom isn't that scummy upon ISO read
Bert hasn't done shit. If you're not going to do shit, replace.

This was done in the time from my previous post to this one, so not too much attention to detail here.
VOTE: notmafia

egg, read his iso, please. It's full of insane tunnelling for weak reasons. And the micc vote comes out of nowhere. Why is all this, notmaf?

[Egg]

Egg, it's difficult because nobody is doing anything. That's making it extremely difficult to gain town-reads and so pretty much anyone is lynchable.

Wisdom would be a compromise.

Lynch order - Bert > Flames > Seo > Wisdom.

I don't see myself voting Bert except as hammer.

So convince enough people to follow you or switch to one of your compromises.

Preview edit: really? I mean, I'll look, but really?

[Egg]

More serious business:
NotMafia is probably scum upon ISO read
Wisdom isn't that scummy upon ISO read
Bert hasn't done shit. If you're not going to do shit, replace.

This was done in the time from my previous post to this one, so not too much attention to detail here.
VOTE: notmafia

egg, read his iso, please. It's full of insane tunnelling for weak reasons. And the micc vote comes out of nowhere. Why is all this, notmaf?

I see proactive questioning. I don't see tunneling. And the Micc vote is within 24 hours of deadline, I believe.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You don't think NM is tunnelling me Egg?

I bet you can count on one hand the amount of interactions he has had with other people (that aren't based around me).

It's an easy tactic for scum to lay low. He can just tunnel on me, not bringing any attention to himself from other players because he isn't interacting with anyone else. The best way to avoid attention is to avoid interaction.

I could lynch NM.

[Egg]

I saw plenty of interaction/mention with/of other people in his ISO. I think he's scumreading you, not tunneling you.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

We haven't had a VC in ten pages.

Not a single VC for D2 so far.

I hate this game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Meh.

Yeah we have, just not from the Mod account.

Still hate this game.

[Egg]

I'd do an unofficial one if I wasn't already over my data limit...

[Marquis]

what if i replaced out and took over modding

i'm not as invested as you guys but more than the mod prob

[Bert]

Bert hasn't done shit. If you're not going to do shit, replace.

its just the game doesnt interest me. I'd replace out but I hate doing that and then I doubt I'm the source of the problem since everyone seems to be equally apathetic.

This game (not the players) is completely miserable, and I don't have anything nice to say right now - old adage applies. God, if there's a game that's purely going through the motions, this is it. As in, wait the full 13 days and 12 hours until near-deadline, then pick. I had a long post that I almost submitted a few days ago, but it was full of complaining and I don't like making excuses or blaming the game itself (totally nothing to do with the players here, whom I mostly adore). I am not on my game, obviously. If I had a gripe right now, it'd be that BBT's posts are so stubborn and thick headed that I'm totally detached. This is not an excuse, it is more something to blame myself for when reflecting on my own play/focus, that even BBT's play (such a tiny thing in the big scheme of things) is affecting my motivation. Someone who I found to be wild but exciting to watch in my game I backup modded a long time ago. Letting something so trivial affect me should never happen.

Just pick someone (anyone is fair game before DL) to lynch and move on to the next day with new info. This type of game is the easiest for scum to coast through - I bet they aren't having much fun with this little resistance.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=32441 --> That oldgame's slowness is an example of what's going on here.

I

know, because I was scum there and watched town self-destruct. Why I am not playing well, is because I am not doing anything to

not

let that happen here.

Getting off my high horse now.

[Bert]

i'm not as invested as you guys but more than the mod prob

Micc should take over, he would be more enthusiastic. And I say that as someone who has enjoyed Nat's game immensely in the past - hell I even nominated him for a Scummy - something that was a total first. This is a Nat game in name and setup, but really it was notscience's game and it was abandoned and D1 was horrible, there was some N1 error that no one knows about, and the scarcity of VCs and lack of attention to the game (leading to delays) killed the momentum. That, and my lazy play, anda I can understand if other people feel demotivated.

[Bert]

Remember how it took like from December 28 until January 17 upon mod prodding for this game to start? I know, it's a uPick, but yeah. Anyways, I said I didn't have many nice things to say right now, so I better focus on this game. It's probably going to snow in the next few days so i should have a ton of time for sure. At least, multiple delays and stuff.

[Marquis]

hated that game. ugh.

i replaced out of ns's last mini normal due to these similarities too iirc.

but i need to control myself and take some responsibility because my absence and inactivity earlygame when it was still is what's caused a huge part of my detachment here. i keep telling myself and you guys that i'll post something big or just do something and then i don't because it's such a struggle to connect. i see myself as a conversationalist in both my posting style and activity and right now i don't know what to talk about or who i can latch onto to talk with and it's just. blah

[Marquis]

i love both these guys and i know they're going through things. but for the sake of the game i would really like a replacement or backup mod who's just... here.

[Bert]

Same here dude with the conversationalist stuff, but I just haven't been here enough. It's surprinsg when you wish Beast was in this game. Like, I havent voluntarily replaced out since 2013, and I don't plan to do that again.

This game's evolution has been ugh. Like, I've held back and tried not to comment on that.

[Bert]

i love both these guys and i know they're going through things.

but for the sake of the game i would really like a replacement or backup mod who's just... here.

PREACH

REC'D this post 1000 times

[TierShift]

I see proactive questioning. I don't see tunneling. And the Micc vote is within 24 hours of deadline, I believe.

The last point is conceded. The rest is defo not, however.

He has done two things: defending kbw for 'town lurking' which is severely underexplained (wk'ing?) and attacking BBT for idek.
I do not see proactive questioning. Very little of his questioning is geared to understanding others and almost all of it is trying to convince others to vote BBT/not vote kbw.

[Bert]

@Quis

It's more an indictment on my focus that I just want the game to move forward to a new day, get more info, as I Don't think such a long Day 2 (after the exceedingly long Day 1) is going to help matters in the long term for this game. I actually believe in my N_M read, a lot on my player instinct. But I could be wrong because he just is feeling the same way about the game as apparently most players here are. Hell if I know anymore, considering how off I Was on regarding Micc.

[TierShift]

bert your talk about scum coasting feels town. Wanna join me on NM?

Fwiw, I have no hard feeling towards our mods. I do think they are destroying the game. They should give mod powers to micc.

[TierShift]

I actually believe in my N_M read,

wait have you already been voting him?

[Bert]

I've had my vote on him like all day.

[TierShift]

oh now that I actually think bert is town, I'm going to respond to bbt. BBT, I see your casae in 581, but it's all without context. Can you give me a summary?

[Marquis]

wish Beast was in this game.

counterrec like a thousand times

beast is one of the few players that i can just

talk to

, no matter what it's about. he's really good at getting me involved

sigh

pedit nm is like nulltown to me. above null because he's doing things i recently saw him do in a towngame but i'm not too confident i have a good grip on his natural/non-alignment-based personality despite how long i've played with/modded for him.

thought: how much of the quiet do you think is caused by the mod inactivity

and how much is caused by upick role specialties

[Bert]

of all people, he is capable of just reading through a game, and getting some fluidity in a post, some clear concise points, accompanied by a nice assertive vote and a point. i've seen him do that multiple times in old games... including raising nice points about me

even his Micc vote was really lacking for his standards

there is something missing, same with the BBT vote (even though I can see why that vote is there intuitively)

this game is just crap though and who knows who's apathetic-scum or apathetic-town, because they're probably both apathetic LOL

[BlueBloodedToffee]

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