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[Bert]

I'm here and again demotivated. Someone call me out for active lurking

It's snowing today

Deadline in 2 days and 4 hours according to the Sunday votecount!

@BBT: is there any reason why you haven't commented about not_mafia's opening up about you two's neighborhood? your side of the story?

[Bert]

what do you guys think of not_mafia's effort reads list?

[Egg]

Ok, Unofficial Vote Count.

Not_Mafia - 3 - Bert, Tiershift, BlueBloodedToffee
Wisdom - 2 - Egg, Metal Sonic
BlueBloodedToffee - 2 - Not_Mafia, Flames
Tiershift - 1 - Wisdom
Bert - 1 - Marquis

[Egg]

what do you guys think of not_mafia's effort reads list?

A lot of nulls and not so much effort. I think he tried to make a big post to stop momentum from building on his lynch. I could see this coming from either alignment, but either way it's lacking.

And considering he's the lead wagon, if Wisdom doesn't get more votes, I'll be around to switch if needed. I'll probably consider tomorrow (RL) my personal deadline to make this decision. However, I'm working 11pm-7am tonight and 3pm-7am tomorrow so I'm assuming I remember to check in before I go to bed which might be a poor assumption. If I forget, I'll make sure I remember when I get out of work the next morning (and then go straight to bed because I work 3pm that day too)

[Seohyun]

It's (one of) my move(s) aka abilities, there are multiple people in the game with it and if we use it on the same night we establish a neighbourhood with eachother, but we need to post in it for it to stay open, which we haven't been doing

why aren't i in this neighborhood then

@formerfish yep

eh not_mafia's iso looks town to me but I don't have much experience/don't remember what he plays like

[Seohyun]

bert is town to me and tier and metal sonic and maybe egg are lean town

[Egg]

So who is scum, Seo? You haven't made a single Day 2 vote.

[Metal Sonic]

Professor Oak.

[Formerfish]

I don’t get Tier right now. The play that he is exhibiting is confusing to me and I see both town and scum in it, so right now I am null. If #928 shitting on Flames reads (which I agree with Wisdom and perhaps Marquis so I don’t really like the comment), and then the throwaway comment to NM after weakly trying to draw a parallel between BBT and Flames play of “U da man” doesn’t just scream scum to most people then I don’t know what would. This is you sitting on the sidelines taking pot shots at the players in the game, while never making a move to take off the warm ups and ask the coach to put you in. #966, just because you have a townread on someone doesn’t mean you can’t talk to someone else about their scum read. Isn’t this where people would normally try to disprove the scum read and show the other person the error of their way? Saying that the points are moot because of your read isn’t exactly disproving someones ideas. Its like the religion argument. Both sides just says the other is wrong without ever really showing why or how. #991 is where you exhibit towniness again to me, I get what you are saying about NM and you are fighting it out with Egg. Why can’t you do this with BBT when its pretty much the same thing in reverse? #1010 Hate to break it to you, but I don’t give a shit if I impress you. How am I not finding scum though? I am reading 35 pages of a game that has been going on for awhile, picking out the things that ping me one way or the other and putting them into words. I don’t know how you scum hunt, but this is what I do. You are going to have to be a little more forthcoming with your passer by comment shyte if you actually want me to have anything to say back. And I start everyone as a town read, they work at being scum not the other way around. Besides the point I have seen BBT as both quite recently and this appears to be more his town play than his scum, so for the moment I am looking to work with him not against. If over time that doesn’t work then I reset and look again. And shit I have 3 decent town reads out of it, some things to look back at later and a few decent scum reads which ive explained a bit, that’s more than I can say for most of the players in this game right now. You call my reads/analysis pretty weak, tell me why you think that.

BBT accusing flames with the same type of evidence he did himself, what does this mean
I'd be ok with voting either of them tho

This is a bad post. And I’ll explain why I think so instead of just leaving it at that. For one, this post is a carbon copy of what NM said not a few posts above this one, so we have a parrot in the room. Also its just wrong. BBT is not explaining townreads, which as I have already spoken towards is something that I don’t think need to be talked about all the much (like what if BBT was an investigative role and got an inno on someone, do you really want him to come out and say that, or do you just go with the fact that someone sees that person as town and try to make a scum case if you think one exists?) Not explaining a scum read is very different. At some point you should be able to lay down at least the framework of why you are seeing someone as scummy. Maybe its not fully fleshed out and its mostly gut, but there has to be something you can point to to say “this, this right here is why you are pinging me as scum.” Failure to do that is much different than not explaining why someone is town.
Would you like to elaborate a little bit on your “yep?” I feel like I said quite a bit more than what a one word response should warrant.

#977 from Egg should be noted for future reference when NM flips. You may not see a reason why scum would want to know peoples flavor, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a reason. I think that asking for a show of faith is more than ok in this situation. What do you feel is unimportant from what I commented on? You are kinda doing the same thing that Tier is doing and then saying you look forward to Tier elaborating. I can’t defend anything I said or found without knowing what you are taking umbrage with. And I do hope to start conversations, that’s why I break my catch ups the way I do, so that the people I want to engage with can respond to me.

What pokedick do we need to suck to get a vote count around here?

Actually, fuck it

Vote Not Mafia

[Flames682]

I would probably agree at this point that my reads from 10 pages are most likely bullshit so that's why I said I'll reread ISOs later

[Metal Sonic]

@mod Please replace me

How long do you think for this request to be resolved?

[Formerfish]

Well considering it hasn't even been listed yet, I'd put the over/under at 3.5 days.

[Marquis]

i'm pming equi if this isn't up to date in 12 hours.

this is if notty and nati are still reading.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Wisdom

Fine

[Formerfish]

Why wait? Oak and Nat are over 3 days from their last posts. We haven't gotten a vc in awhile, I seem to remember coming close to deadline soon, and we have a player who requested replacement yesterday afternoon and we haven't even had that slot put into the replacement queue yet. I kinda felt people were being facetious with the shitty handling of this game, but goddamn they were not.

[Marquis]

i was going to wait as a last chance to them.

this same exact thing happened in notty's last game i was in and he was penalized. maybe it's improper but i want to give them this one chance.

after all what are we going to do? we can't get any deader anyway.

[Formerfish]

Do you think he should not be penalized for this? Unless he had some serious can't access the internet don't know anyone else on here in person type of real world shit going on its pretty fucked up to abandon a game as a mod. I have seen mods get hit for less than this.

[Marquis]

pm her now if you want. i am going to bed. and i'm not even in the mood to invite you to join me.

[Metal Sonic]

i was going to wait as a last chance to them.

this same exact thing happened in notty's last game i was in and he was penalized. maybe it's improper but i want to give them this one chance.

after all what are we going to do? we can't get any deader anyway.

I serve as witness

[Metal Sonic]

Yes, I told you Professor Oak was scum

[Formerfish]

pm her now if you want. i am going to bed. and i'm not even in the mood to invite you to join me.

You tease! All this time I put in trying to woo you.

[TierShift]

If #928 shitting on Flames reads (which I agree with Wisdom and perhaps Marquis so I don’t really like the comment), and then the throwaway comment to NM after weakly trying to draw a parallel between BBT and Flames play of “U da man” doesn’t just scream scum to most people then I don’t know what would. This is you sitting on the sidelines taking pot shots at the players in the game, while never making a move to take off the warm ups and ask the coach to put you in.

That's true. I was just doing it for the funsies. i thought NM's comment was funny.

#966, just because you have a townread on someone doesn’t mean you can’t talk to someone else about their scum read. Isn’t this where people would normally try to disprove the scum read and show the other person the error of their way? Saying that the points are moot because of your read isn’t exactly disproving someones ideas

BBT was showing the same behaviour towards me earlier. I hoped that if I did the same to him, he would realise that it is annoying as fuck. He didn't, though.
I was not trying to actually disprove his scumread.

[TierShift]

btw I'm kind of happy with your newer posts, ff. Can you give me a readslist or smethng?

[Natirasha]

Vote count after work.
Sorry.

[Prof Oak]

Replacing wis

Also starting tomorrow I'll be more active again, real life finally settled down.