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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:54 am

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Of course.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:17 pm

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Kaboose wrote:Did that dude just say at one point "I got nothing but VT cards" and in the next post say "I got two VTs and something else"? Like he is lying. Isn't he the same guy who is claiming he never chose to discard something?


I always said I got three vanilla cards. Look at the list. There are things that are not Town, Scum, Werewolf, or Alien, but are Vanilla without a role. Those are treated as [Alignment] Vanilla.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:18 pm

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See, right here.

Dechs Kaison wrote:
Soren wrote:
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Soren wrote:Furthermore, how likely is it to be dealt three vanilla roles? It seems like a very low chance, however just because something is unlikely to happen it doesn't mean that I should dismiss it because it could still potentially happen.


Seeing as their are more Vanilla cards than there are any other one role, it is statistically more likely to get three vanilla cards than it is to get any other specific combination of cards.

It's still more likely that I got (at least) one power role than none, because there are more power roles than not.


Is that so? I should probably check that page with all the possible cards.


12x Vanilla Town
Judas
Saulus
Underdog
5x Mafia Goon
4x Werewolf (Vanilla)
Survivor

Total of 25 cards with Vanilla attached. Total is 134 (137 minus 3 not used). So there's a significant portion of the cards that have Vanilla as the role, but far more that have some kind of power.


I got three cards from that list and two of them were Vanilla Towns.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:21 pm

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copper223 wrote:Damn it looks like Dechs really slipped and my townread of him was bad.

@Dechs
Do you have an explanation for claiming 3 vanilla cards so you are not a PR beforehand and now saying you had 2?


Yeah, see above. Nothing has changed. I still got dealt three vanilla cards. One of them is a unique alignment.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:25 pm

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Guyett wrote:I have got all role pm's and played this mods games before. I know for a fact you can choose what to discard

Yeah, you can choose. I didn't. I just told him what I was going to be.

I mean, I'm glad Vanilla Town got discarded and not my unique card. I already said that's the only thing I have against scum here is counterclaim potential.
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:37 pm

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The fact you didn't choose the discard indicates you are using the unique card as your alignment.

This means you are either {Survivor, Underdog, Saulus or Judas}
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:49 pm

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Guyett wrote:The fact you didn't choose the discard indicates you are using the unique card as your alignment.

This means you are either {Survivor, Underdog, Saulus or Judas}


It indicates nothing, especially to you since you weren't here for role distribution.

Has anyone else not specified their discard, made their choice combination and had the Mod infer a discard card for them?
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:51 pm

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@Mod

Hypothetically speaking if a person had Werewolf, Mafia Goon and Vanilla Townie would you give them the option of which card to use as a Role card and which to use as a Discarded Card?
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:54 pm

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Of course he'd give the option. The question is, if someone picks Vanilla town out of that list but doesn't specify the discard, would he choose for that person?
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:58 pm

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If you had, hypothetically of course, 2 VT cards and Judas and you wanted to be Vanilla Townie then that means either you get role from Judas or VT and you discard the other.


I really doubt the mod would make that decision as it is influencing the game as people put stock into what people have discarded. You should have been given the option:

Vanilla townie (judas discarded)
Vanilla townie(vanilla townie discarded)
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:02 pm

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Well that's not how the role distribution was worded. It looked like this:

Jank Alignment [stuff]
Vanilla Townie [stuff]
Jank Alignment (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)


And it told me to pick from that list. I did. I never specified which to discard.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:03 pm

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Just double checked. The (Duplicate) part wasn't actually struck out. But otherwise that was the format.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:07 pm

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I'm going to wait to see if Zaicon answers my question. He is a very experienced mod and I really doubt he would have made a decision like that for you. It would be influencing the game imo.
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:13 pm

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Whatever. That's all I've got.

My lunch break is almost over and I'm not going to have internet the rest of the afternoon while I'm working, then I'm driving home for three hours. I will have one more chance to check this thread between now and when I go to bed tonight.

Deadline is hours away. I would rather lynch Needful than Ika, but Ika is L-2 and Needful only has two votes. Ika isn't giving us any content despite the pressure, fell through on the promises, so I'm ok with that lynch. I want a lynch as opposed to no lynch, so Ika gets my vote for now.

VOTE: Pirate Ika

If you guys would rather hang Needful, like I said, I'll be back one more time much later tonight after I get home and I'll gladly hammer that one home.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:21 pm

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Before night ends i'd like to know why kitty discarded innocent child
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:22 pm

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Before the day ends obviously
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:25 pm

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If there is a vig dechs would be a great shot
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:40 pm

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Is kiwi here? He might be able to answer some questions as he has claimed to have discarded town ascetic and used town lover for alignment.


First off which PGO card did you get
secondly in your options you should have got 2 town 1 shot paranoid gun owner options (ascetic as alignment or lover as alignment ).
Did you have the option of which card to discard (ascetic or lover)?
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:43 pm

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@ika

Firstly where is this giant post?
Secondly all you've posted is fluff, why so careful with this giant post? Why are you being cautious?
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:49 pm

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Actually why discard town ascetic (unique card) and keep lover (multiple card) for your alignment?
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:54 pm

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Dechs Kaison wrote:
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kiwieagle wrote:I am a town 1 shot paranoid gun owner
Discarded town ascetic and town lover

Thought of claiming vigilante but investigatove roles might have died if they had visited me


Enemy factions wont dare target me unless they have redirectors and town should be smart


Who can spot the lie? or the misinformtion?

because this is greatest idea mafia and you only discard 1 card.

UNVOTE: whoever i voted earlier, kitty?
VOTE: kiwi


That looks to me like an honest mistake (one that I've made and seen other make in GIM). He's thinking that he took the town one shot paranoid gun owner card and discarded his other two, but he took the alignment of at least one of those. It makes it easier to mistake with the way the Mod presented our choices in the PM when he showed us all the combinations.


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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:39 pm

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NameAlignment CardRole CardDiscarded CardFinal Combination
copper223
Mafia Goon
Dechs Kaison
Vanilla Townie
Kaboose
Vanilla Townie
KittyCupCake
Innocent Child
kiwieagle
Lover
Ascetic Townie
One Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
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Bulletproof Alien Lover
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Werewolf Gravedigger
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Alien Mass Redirector
Pirate Ika
Mafia Goon
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1-Shot Unlynchable Townie
Hider
Soren
Alien Psychotrooper
Soviet Crocolisk
Gravedigger
Town FBI Agent
Whomping Willow
Vanilla Townie
Town Lover



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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:48 pm

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Guyett wrote:
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Hypothetically speaking if a person had Werewolf, Mafia Goon and Vanilla Townie would you give them the option of which card to use as a Role card and which to use as a Discarded Card?

Players must specify their discarded card unless there's only one option (i.e., only one way to form their chosen combination) or each option is the same (i.e., all discard possibilities are the same).

Prodding kiwieagle.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:50 pm

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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:51 pm

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Dechs Kaison wrote:Well that's not how the role distribution was worded. It looked like this:

Jank Alignment [stuff]
Vanilla Townie [stuff]
Jank Alignment (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)


And it told me to pick from that list. I did. I never specified which to discard.



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