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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:31 am

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Example was the wrong word. Stupid tablet. Meant chance.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:32 am

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KittyCupCake wrote:Okay. Then that all makes sense. You only would have needed to make a discard if you had chosen to be a Town Psychotrooper. Since you didn't, you only had one possible discard and it was made automatically.

Ah that would make sense.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:33 am

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Reads desh?
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:35 am

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On tablet and calling my family that is in the states right now. Give me 20 minutes.
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:38 am

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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:52 am

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Dechs' story lines up as far as I can see.

Get on board the Pirate Ika train.

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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:14 am

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Starting with my easy ones.

90% Scum:
NeedfulThings - Defended WW, made a terrible push on SC, switched gears as soon as there was pressure back on it, and went after the most quiet lurker with nothing but a meta-case. Highly emotional wording, frequent use of hyperbole and general manipulative language. Look at the case he made on me and notice the outright lie in it among other failings.
Whomping Willow - I feel like I've made my case on him well enough by now, but basically the timing of his transition from doing stuff to trolling us and how it lined up with pressure he received, then his complete non-cooperativeness and not giving a single reason for anything he's done. He's caught scum and he had to govern himself to delay his hanging.

100% Town:
Prawneater - Newb tell right away, claiming the weak cop because he read a wiki page for how to behave as town.

90%Town:
Copper223 - Always had a town lean to him, but I started feeling this strongly about him after our back and forth.
SovietCrocolisk - Many little reasons. I like how his second head has been behaving. I can tell his first head is a newbie and was just floundering early, honest mistake. Needful being my primary scum pushing the lynch on him. The way he was on my case even right after I started tearing apart the SC case Needful made. All together, I'm very sure he's town.

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Kiwi - He's either town or some kind of survivor. I believe the role he claimed is genuine, but his play matches a survivor better.
Guyett - I really like him. I can tell he's a good player. He knows what questions to ask and who to start asking. His only interactions are with me so far, though, so I don't have enough to read his alignment. I don't like his push on the strategy I know I've used as scum in this setup. Be careful with him, but definitely follow his leads. If he's leading a charge and you hang a townie for it, that's when you should be looking very hard at him. Otherwise, listen to this guy.

Town lean:
Soren - Seems rather inexperienced, but genuine in attempts to participate, learn, and find scum. Tends to be weak on the mechanics and makes incorrect assumptions at times, but the intent is good. Poor results from Soren (unlike from Guyette) just imply incompetence, not manipulation.

Ika I can't say anything about. No posts and no response to our pressure. It's unsettling, but I don't think there's reason to say Ika is more likely scum than town, just totally inactive.
Kaboose's posts have been short and few between. I can't be sure one way or the other.
Kitty I haven't been paying attention to. We haven't had a lot of interaction. No read.
Guile is a combo of Kitty and Kaboose reasons for not having a read.
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:15 am

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I'm incompetent ;(

I guess that's true anyways.
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:15 am

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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:16 am

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Well I can only see Dechs as townie from that read list.

If he's scum why post one? Because once he's dead he would be revealed as scum, and so we would all have second doubts about his read list to the point that it's basically null.
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:17 am

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VOTE: Pirate Ika

As much as I hate to vote for Pirate Ika. I don't want Dechs to die because he looks town right now.
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:19 am

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Ok, so I'm going to make a case to let me live till tomorrow.

1: You know I'm one of the following: Judas, Saulus, Underdog, Survivor.

If I'm Judas, I'm on your team until you hang me, then you have to hang me again.
If I'm Saulus, I'm not on your team yet, but I can't communicate with the actual scum team and I don't have a night kill. No threat here.
If I'm Underdog, then I'm actually a survivor for now, and who we hang today determines my alignment. Let's say we hang scum, then hang me tomorrow just to be safe. No threat.
If I'm Survivor, then I'm on your team until you're in mylo, in which case you hang me to be safe. No threat.

Basically, I'm not a threat to town no matter which of the four I am and in the worst cases, I'm the known threat. You should still be going after scum that can kill you and if the game somehow isn't over and we're not getting night killed anymore, hang me. You win.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:19 am

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Dechs Kaison wrote:Example was the wrong word. Stupid tablet. Meant chance.

Lovely post.
One question though:
If you think needless is scum, why are you in the wagon they are driving?
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:20 am

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Didn't mean to quote that
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:21 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:24 am

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Ika is L-1

Claim now please
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:25 am

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Soviet Crocolisk wrote:Lovely post.
One question though:
If you think needless is scum, why are you in the wagon they are driving?

I've explained this already in these two posts:

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NeedfulThings wrote:Here are games I had with mollie:
Micro 445 (NB: subtract my posts)
Open 573 (NB: subtract Nacho's posts)
Micro 415

This is just a small piece. From what I've heard and seen, this is a pretty well established pattern.


This is a start and it's good enough to be suspicious, but I noticed something else: The two games you referenced where Mollie is scum she's also in a Hyrda, and the town game she's on her own. Her posting more may be a symptom of not having a second head to rely on.

You have anything where Mollie is scum and not in a Hyrda?

In the meantime, Pirate Ika is already at L-2 (and intent to hammer from SC). I want to give Ika a chance to at least post some content, give us a sober list of reads with reasons, anything to make a decision on. If they can't do that and we've got a deadline which is getting close, fine, I'll hang them for lack of something better.


Dechs Kaison wrote:Deadline is hours away. I would rather lynch Needful than Ika, but Ika is L-2 and Needful only has two votes. Ika isn't giving us any content despite the pressure, fell through on the promises, so I'm ok with that lynch. I want a lynch as opposed to no lynch, so Ika gets my vote for now.

VOTE: Pirate Ika

If you guys would rather hang Needful, like I said, I'll be back one more time much later tonight after I get home and I'll gladly hammer that one home.


If Ika is scum, it's on the other team from Needful. But no one else was behind the Needful wagon and any lynch is better than no lynch.

I would much rather hang Needful, but I've been having trouble getting people behind me.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:26 am

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@Dechs
I agree that the priority should be lynching scum and you look more third party, the problem is pirate Ika not even bothering to post and the lack of a CW is pinging my paranoia senses, when I played scum with Mollie she did lurk at Lylo (not even close to this extent) but D1 she posted a fair amount, this looks like afk town to me, so I'd rather lynch the third party.

I also can't figure out what needful is doing with the claim and then pushing Ika over SC, if Needful is scum turbolynch prawn no matter his townslips because this game he has sheeped them to an unnatural level, on the other hand if they are both town then either this setup is ful of negative utiliy but scum poor of some of my townreads are off.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:29 am

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Ok guys, one more thing. It's 10:30 PM here and I've had a really long day. I work at a construction site out here in the desert. I really want to go to bed.

Deadline's in six hours. If I go to bed, that's it for the Day for me.

Are we going to hang Needful or Ika?
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:29 am

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I'm staying up another 20 minutes tops.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:30 am

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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:34 am

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I am not voting a claimed investigative D1 so Needful is off the tablel, if I have to hammer the pirates I will, I will check the Saulus role when I am not phone posting, should be home around 23 GMT+1
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:36 am

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Saulus is Mafia aligned, but doesn't have QT access and doesn't know who the scumteam is (because they'd just reveal everything after they died first time).
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:36 am

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I'm waiting for ika to post. I'll give them 4 hoe's tops.
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