Mini 1649: Jabberwocky Mafia (Game Over)

[Elbirn]

We kewl Mollie, I guess I was just kinda out of sorts that day, and I read your comment as being a bit antagonistic. I shouldn't have gotten so pissy. I'm not one to hold grudges over stupid stuff anyway, and youz good people. Would play with again. ^_^

Pic related it's us

[Titus]

I felt like I had a good game on this... then Day 2 happened... :S

I was still right on Beli in the end.

However, in the future, a lynch proof cop check is very poor design IMO. A lynch should almost never directly clear or scumfirm a player unless cops are involved. I am amazed at the pass the vig mechanic though. 5 stars for that. Would steal.

[hi im Yakko]

I'm still laughing at the hammer. bahahahaha. It made my week.

[T S O]

I guess I was scum after all.

[farside22]

Yea! I was right about yakko!

The hammer by beli completely threw me off at the end.

Gg people.
Oh elb, elb dear you owe me a pm with a nice apology.

[farside22]

Gm: do you hate me? I got the one pm that you had as a sample and because of mr. Outguess the mod it really sucked being the only one.

Also, yea for reading faq correctly and question axel. Sorry for tunneling vm. You were pretty quiet this game.

[goodmorning]

I random.org'd all the pm's, you just got fortunate.

Anyway, lynching this particular Lynchproof would have ended the Day, which kills a lot of the positive utility from trying to use it as an investigative.

This game pretty much just went the best that it could have gone for Town.

[GuyInFreezer]

lol gg

[TierShift]

Lolwat

That hammer

[Elbirn]

Yea! I was right about yakko!

The hammer by beli completely threw me off at the end.

Gg people.
Oh elb, elb dear you owe me a pm with a nice apology.

Oh.
Uhm uhm uh
Ya see the thing is you didn't flip town, per se, as you didn't die. You just were town. I didn't kill you so I'm off the hook! *runs away*

[farside22]

Yea! I was right about yakko!

The hammer by beli completely threw me off at the end.

Gg people.
Oh elb, elb dear you owe me a pm with a nice apology.

Oh.
Uhm uhm uh
Ya see the thing is you didn't flip town, per se, as you didn't die. You just were town. I didn't kill you so I'm off the hook! *runs away*

[pirate mollie]

elby I am probably 1 of the most abrasive players on site so you getting offended is understandable and forgivable. if you ever met me or heard my voice you wldn't be offended ever. I look forward to playing with you again.

its okay far! you weren't death tunneling me so no harm done.

our choices to send the vorpal sword to were flubber, titus and elby.

I think I am going to nom the hammer for kodack moment. that was so hilarious and so beautiful.

[TierShift]

Boo why did you not give sword to meeee

[pirate mollie]

judgment wise, I think you wld have been in our 3. gamestate wise I thought it was best to send it to the confirms.

kodak moment:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6709252

[Elbirn]

Yea! I was right about yakko!

The hammer by beli completely threw me off at the end.

Gg people.
Oh elb, elb dear you owe me a pm with a nice apology.

Oh.
Uhm uhm uh
Ya see the thing is you didn't flip town, per se, as you didn't die. You just were town. I didn't kill you so I'm off the hook! *runs away*

How about a much shorter and in thread apology?

Dear Far,
I am a dumb butt who should stop playing "outguess the mod", for it is not good play. You were totally not scum but I didn't care because I tunnel vision the crap out of people. I will reflect on this fact and hopefully stop being a dumb butt in the future.

Love from your biggest fan,
Elby

[Witness Protection]

@ good morning

When you get time, I'd be interested in the Roles and their mechanics. Especially ones like the TumTum Tree.

pedit @ Elbirn I used to be a tunneler, and I'd write walls on why Town were scum all the time. * Waves at gm* I'm more cautious now. I need a little bit of that aggression back (I think).

I enjoyed my short stay in Town, and the company, even the scums!

[FA_Q2]

You are The Tumtum Tree, Town Conditional Lynchproof.
Rested He By a Tumtum Tree: Look, trying to make the flavour make sense when the poem doesn't is HARD, OKAY? As long as the Vorpal Sword is in the right hands, you cannot be lynched because the Scum would use it to cut you down or something? Look, I DON'T KNOW.
As In Uffish Thought He Stood: You may speak in the thread during the Day; you may vote.

[farside22]

Elb: that will do quite nicely.
Now onto sig moment

[pirate mollie]

I had you and titus down as scum for STUPID FUCKING REASONS

can we start a club where we have town down as scum for stupid fucking reasons.

it might make me feel less alone cos I get this way quite often.

ty for the game gm <3

[T S O]

thanks gm ly

[Witness Protection]

@ FA_Q2 Maybe I needed it to make you lynchproof? Or just Town??? We nailed scum so fast (go team) we didn't get to see any mechanic interactions.

[Witness Protection]

Yea! I was right about yakko!

The hammer by beli completely threw me off at the end.

Gg people.
Oh elb, elb dear you owe me a pm with a nice apology.

Oh.
Uhm uhm uh
Ya see the thing is you didn't flip town, per se, as you didn't die. You just were town. I didn't kill you so I'm off the hook! *runs away*

[AxleGreaser]

@ good morning

When you get time, I'd be interested in the Roles and their mechanics. Especially ones like the TumTum Tree.

pedit @ Elbirn I used to be a tunneler, and I'd write walls on why Town were scum all the time. * Waves at gm* I'm more cautious now. I need a little bit of that aggression back (I think).

I enjoyed my short stay in Town, and the company, even the scums!

I am here, and the PM's are all in post #1 in the dead thread. I ...can... copy them over as I am here... or we can wait for GM... or someone I *trust* that knows etiquette can say post them.
Choose whether or not you want to know if I (RL) trust your, RL judgment, at your own ego's own peril.

In terms of parphrasing, FAQ2 got it real close. It says sword has to be in the right hands.

Significant Roles and PMs you dont know about are:

The sword Item

:
The decision was made by the holder in the daytime (both the pass and the kill) (hence it was defined as an unblockable day action. (hence some in game thread comments at the end of the day)
Thus scum cannot RB the swords snicker snack nor the pass and the scum don't know that.
Further the pass list was a prioritised list. So VM could choose who to pass it to.
AND i think possibly unknown to VM? (PMs?)(but guessable?) if the target of the pass was killed then "prioritised" meant in went to the next choice.
Also the sword could not be given back to anyone that had held it already.
Note the pass was resolved in NR order after the kill.

This meant that, unknown to me, my role the suicidal Jabberwocky was virtually certain to die before endgame.
Well in fact to survive I the jabberwocky needed to do the counter intuitive thing to NOT kill the townsword holder(beamish boy) so that he could get hold of the sword and keep it
then hope I convinced him not to kill me. (leaving town with double kills all game.... not a good plan)(but there was no way to get the sword out of towns control, as at worst they pretty much always knew where it went last.)

Suicidal Jabberwocky:

I(jabberwocky) was suicidal in that if anyone ever gifted me the sword I died.
I assumed that scum would have some means to counter that, and hence planned around gaining control of the sword.
I also thought N vig kills in anyones hands was likely imbalanced, so I guessed that WP was the vig and was not activated until he got the sword hence a limited vig.
Fortunately, I decided my odds on survival (esp with people wanting to policy vig/cop me) were not that great, and So I tried to see what trouble I could make while I was alive and yet look like normal towny me.
I did Ok...

Not @WP.
BTW on the topic of policy kills....
nah actually who you choose to policy and why is your own silly affair.

I would however suggest it is quite bad karma to replace into a game then claim you are policing shooting someone out of it because they make _you_ play apathetically.... (bats and balls and things comes to mind)
Sooooo... you replace into games with the intention and expectation of being apathetic? That is Bad Karma all round not just at one person.
Also its awful damn convenient next time you are scum and I am town, and I find as many of your team mates as I did last time we played together. Also rather odd you would want to policy someone who was recently was killed ahead of a claimed power role by your own scum team mate. As I said what you choose to do is not my problem.

[AxleGreaser]

Oh and my best reading of the posts and setup info is, DDD got the sword by RNG... 3/13 times scum would have had the sword N1.

[AxleGreaser]

oops also misremembered something, sword cant be given back to the person that gave it to you not can never be given back to that person.
needs a circle of 3...