We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

You're also forgetting what we said previously about meta, and the following post where I said that I explained my Vyse townread before I explained my Copper scumread and that the two were not connected.

-Bulbasaur

[God of Power Outlets]

TROLOLOLOLOL "We should have waited for the doomed slot to be replaced" has got to be up there with "well it was his fault he got lynched yesterday" as one of the most short-sighted things that can be said in this game. Holy hell deathfisaro couldn't be more scum if he claimed it.

[Cerberus v666]

Narninian... You don't think it would've been a better idea to redirect that kill onto someone who hadn't claimed an /investigative role/ and was possibly going to lead to some conftowns?

This point is so 72 hours ago neighbor mine.

I'm not going to be taking full advantage of this twilight discussion because if scum knows how I feel they'll be much better equipped to predict my night action (which is much less powerful if they know what I might do)

Redirect to me, it'll be blocked

Not necessarily. The action might fail entirely because you aren't a valid target. Narn might want to clarify that with the mods before taking that line.

Last break over, I'll be home and see what's happened this last quote then.

[copper223]

@Drixx
Does this attempt to wall me out of the game, sans the not so subtle threat to continue doing so until I'm dead or confirmed town, notice the phrasing that does not include me flipping scum, remind you of someone?

[kuribo]

Like really? How long did you want to wait?

Next time let's another day. No. Two days! Fuck it, let's just go to deadline and never lynch anyone.

Man the fuck up and lynch your scum reads instead of bitching about it when other people do.

-kuribo

Actually since he was prodded yesterday, today he'd either have to show up and post something useful (and if we accept the implicit scumclaim and hammer), or be force replaced and we'll get SOMETHING out of it.
See how Magua's sticking around twilight and doing all he can? And yet you don't want Lihin doing the same for some reason I can't possibly comprehend.
I hope you get shot tonight, that'll practically mod confirm Toon as town and hopefully Drixx will come back to normal with negative influence not around.

pedit;
@Narninian
Whoever your initial target is going to be, the redirect is best on BP, no? I mean, BPs should be playing to draw in NKs on themselves but with open claims early game they are doing the opposite and spreading the bullets around people who don't have vests. Unless your receipt tells you whether it failed because your initial target received no night action or it failed because you tried redirecting it to scum. I don't remember the details but you mentioned something in that regards.

You're being disingenuous as hell. When did I say I didn't want lihin to post?

[God of Power Outlets]

Don't worry copper I still believe in you, you can be a part of my voting bloc tomorrow.

[God of Power Outlets]

Like really? How long did you want to wait?

Next time let's another day. No. Two days! Fuck it, let's just go to deadline and never lynch anyone.

Man the fuck up and lynch your scum reads instead of bitching about it when other people do.

-kuribo

Actually since he was prodded yesterday, today he'd either have to show up and post something useful (and if we accept the implicit scumclaim and hammer), or be force replaced and we'll get SOMETHING out of it.
See how Magua's sticking around twilight and doing all he can? And yet you don't want Lihin doing the same for some reason I can't possibly comprehend.
I hope you get shot tonight, that'll practically mod confirm Toon as town and hopefully Drixx will come back to normal with negative influence not around.

pedit;
@Narninian
Whoever your initial target is going to be, the redirect is best on BP, no? I mean, BPs should be playing to draw in NKs on themselves but with open claims early game they are doing the opposite and spreading the bullets around people who don't have vests. Unless your receipt tells you whether it failed because your initial target received no night action or it failed because you tried redirecting it to scum. I don't remember the details but you mentioned something in that regards.

You're being disingenuous as hell. When did I say I didn't want lihin to post?

All the lube makes the hydra slippery.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

@Copper: Hey, don't try to avoid talking to us by trying to get others to fight your battles!

-Bulbasaur

[kuribo]

Liability?
How?
It wasn't me who hammered. Yeah I wanted it to happen as I was fudge sure lihin was scum.
So scum can now use me as mis-lynch bait, that just makes it easier for me to catch them as I expect them to push the hell out of it tommorow. Players like TPTG who supported the wagon now seem to blame it on me as I was the driving force at the start, that however isn't where the scum are. I want to see who joined it too easily, both the jackal and lihin wagons. Om's now looking shady as you said and isn't playing with the enthusiasm she had as town in varsoon mafia. Where she went insane pushing her scum-reads.
Anyway, I'm surviving the night one way or another.

Youre scum for way more reasons than the wagon. UT has been howling for your head in the masonry since Day 1, and its time for me and TB to oblige him

Pedit: whoever is logged into TPTG plz quote this one for our ISO too

[God of Power Outlets]

Liability?
How?
It wasn't me who hammered. Yeah I wanted it to happen as I was fudge sure lihin was scum.
So scum can now use me as mis-lynch bait, that just makes it easier for me to catch them as I expect them to push the hell out of it tommorow. Players like TPTG who supported the wagon now seem to blame it on me as I was the driving force at the start, that however isn't where the scum are. I want to see who joined it too easily, both the jackal and lihin wagons. Om's now looking shady as you said and isn't playing with the enthusiasm she had as town in varsoon mafia. Where she went insane pushing her scum-reads.
Anyway, I'm surviving the night one way or another.

Youre scum for way more reasons than the wagon. UT has been howling for your head in the masonry since Day 1, and its time for me and TB to oblige him

Pedit: whoever is logged into TPTG plz quote this one for our ISO too

You wish is my command

[copper223]

You're also forgetting what we said previously about meta, and the following post where I said that I explained my Vyse townread before I explained my Copper scumread and that the two were not connected.

So you are attributing a reply to one wall to the next? Weird shit.

I am going to check back on your Vyse and Copper reads in particular Bulbazak, I know Ivy's read of Vyse stayed scum til after the Lucian claim as she was asking for a vig on him and all that she said in defense of Vyse later on is she doesn't like the cherry picking of Vyse's case at the end of D1 from me, which is a clear cross connection between the reads.

[copper223]

@Copper: Hey, don't try to avoid talking to us by trying to get others to fight your battles!

-Bulbasaur

Lol, clearly what is going on.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Copper, thoughts on Boonskiies and Peregrine.

-Bulbasaur

[LucianRoy]

Why does Vyse always fall asleep on the floor?

[LucianRoy]

In other news, I'm not going to be the guy who says "I told you so," but I never really wanted to lynch Lihin.

[Toon Fighter]

In other news, I'm not going to be the guy who says "I told you so," but I never really wanted to lynch Lihin.

And how many town points do you want for that?

[copper223]

@Bulbasaur
I have mixed reads on both, very hard to say.

It's true that Boon was site flaking and in too mamy games, he made 3 scummy comments, one trying to poorly justify himself using his meta, but he does that as both scum and town, another about not being able to read copper plus his hahaha afterwards, and the last about yolo hammering, which again he uses as both alignments, this is puerly gut but I'd say town (was wrong on him once though).

PV, same problem I have with Vyse about lurking and excusing himself but to a lesser extent, if Vyse is town probably scum but since I am still leaning scum on Vyse I might read him more charitably than I should. I'd like an explaination on his wagon dynamics post.

[deathfisaro]

if Vyse is town probably scum but since I am still leaning scum on Vyse

What

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

See, I'm not sure what to make about Boon, since this seems to be on par with what I saw in Joss Whedon. However, PV, although a lurksack, should have made more of an impact right now, and the fact that he hasn't worries me. I'm trying to go back over and see where scum might be hiding out if I'm wrong somewhere, and those 2 have not made an impact on me whatsoever.

I think I'm going to have to make a list in the hydra PT.

-Bulbasaur

[copper223]

@fisaro
I don't understand how PV landed on Vyse and if it is based on genuine condensed scumhunting or if it was a BS post to vote someone and go back to lurking, at the time I was more certain of my Vyse read so I read that post in the first way, as someone using a different tell to arrive at the same conclusion, if I am wrong on Vyse it looks more like the second, making things up, without an explaination of exactly how he reached that conclusion.

[copper223]

I am also thinking there might be something for PV scum based on the fact Jackel98's wagon won out convincingly between the two at the end of D1.

[deathfisaro]

PV is still in this game?
Well his last post says Pika soft defended vonflare therefore they're of the same faction. Is 5 vote count a good time to publicly defend your buddy despite potentially gaining associative clues later on? At 1/3 of the lynch requirement, it's plausible.
I don't know how close night is and I don't know if I want to bother diving in. I think PV should do the work for us and present all the evidence nicely quoted or referenced into a one coherent post. I think he should have found some more evidences between posts ~1200 and ~3600.

pedit;
But in multiball how does it work like that? Like even if both scumteams wanted to cooperate and kill a few town before they start killing each other, they don't know who's town and who's the other faction so one wagon winning with that much gap between the two isn't necessarily a sign of scum's doing. Or you think they have a more primitive mindset like "hey it's not one of us, let's just lynch him and get D1 over with"?

[Magua]

People trying to use wagon mechanics in a multiball game are not going to be very successful. A scumteam of 3 members is not going to be able to swing the momentum of a wagon off of a teammate when 20+ are in the game.

[LucianRoy]

In other news, I'm not going to be the guy who says "I told you so," but I never really wanted to lynch Lihin.

And how many town points do you want for that?

Tree-fiddy

Naw, but seriously, OC is probably scum.

[copper223]

Creating the snowball though may be doable depending on their towncred and how scummy their target looks, what is your read of PV Magua?