Open 598: GAME OVER

[Green Crayons]

The only difference between sthar's list and your list in Post 261 is that sthar shunted the "easy" players into town/scum, whereas you called out a different selection of people.

[Green Crayons]

Your reaction to my assessment?

[You Got Schooled]

yeah, i know it.

whether or not you knew it at the time, you were right about sthar before, just not for the right reasons. you can rectify this situation by voting him.

Can you explain your thought process here a little more? Is it mainly about the set-up spec?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Newbie

BB's plan isn't worth dropping a lynch. We guarantee that scum won't use their PGO, but they similarly won't if we pair or circle and we still get to lynch. We can't do it twice because then we might lose, and two free investigations is the only reason it's worth considering.

I agree with just about everything antihero said up until he broke out the crazy-chalkboard where 1+1=5. He's going to get paranoid about that being buddying at some point,

so I should evolve my reads subtly so he doesn't freak.

But I can't be bothered with coddling right now.

town: {lane, anti, BB}
idgaf: {ika, parasol, canyons, Z}
scum: {newbie, YGS}

The bolded seems really self-aware of how the reads are perceived. This is then undermined by the next sentence - I don't like the phrasing here at all, seems really fake.

Also, as my other-head said: can we stop being the convenient scum-read without any clear explanations? It's kinda dull.

Not gonna support a Newbie lynch today.

-bella

[Newbie]

Right. He put the "easy" players into spots that matches the general consensus of the thread. He completely shunned the "problematic" players, who have also had a good amount of discussion surrounding them. I find it hard to believe that he read the thread and then made up his mind that quickly without having

something

to comment on about certain players.

If that doesn't send off some red flags, then I don't know what to say...

[sthar8]

The things you're discussing are dumb. More when I have a keyboard.

[lane0168]

The things you're discussing are dumb. More when I have a keyboard.

Doubt it

[BBmolla]

I don't really get the YGS scumreads

newbie who is scum g

[lane0168]

@ygs, can you not be so damn concerned about people's reads on you and focus on scum hunting if you're town? You're focused way too much on that. I don't even know how many times you've asked people to explain their reads on you. Frankly it concerns me enough to put you back into my scum pile. Do your part and fiND scum. You don't even have votes on you and you can't stop focusing on how you're peoples scum read. I mean I can see if you had 3 or 4 votes yeah, be a little defensive, but this is weird as shit without a single vote

[Newbie]

I don't really get the YGS scumreads

newbie who is scum g

So say I get lynched. When I flip town, who are your next scum reads?

[BBmolla]

who do you think is scum

[Newbie]

GC and one of Persivul (although I'm not so sure anymore), ika, and sthar.

[Green Crayons]

@YGS:

self awareness is alignment indicative?

[sthar8]

they don't understand that this is a dance i've done with anti ~a billion times

[ZZZX]

I am done, tonight this shall be read

[lane0168]

I am done, tonight this shall be read

Congrats

[sthar8]

Got home late last night, was too angry at something unrelated to post politely. I'll be in tonight.

[snscompt1]

VOTECOUNT 1.07

Newbie(4):

Green Crayons, BBmolla, Persivul, sthar8

L-2!

sthar8(3):

Antihero, Newbie, lane0168

Green Crayons(1):

You Got Schooled

Not Voting:

ika, ZZZX,

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline is May 30. 10:40 PM EST

(expired on 2015-05-30 22:40:00)

Prodding ika and Persivul

[ika]

bitch plz you dont miss me at all

[Persivul]

Here. Didn't realize it had been that long.

[BBmolla]

sthar8(3): Antihero, Newbie, lane0168

Why does this even exist

[sthar8]

1. Bad at math. 2. Scum. 3. VI

[ika]

anti vote newbie so i can hammer and be happy

[sthar8]

Okay, can you try again and define it

correctly

?

It was summed up pretty correctly. I'm not playing this silly little useless game with you.

Ha nope. Confirmation bias is the natural tendency to interpret evidence in a way that supports previously held beliefs. Accusing antihero of confirmation biasing in his read on you assumes that he

believes

you are scum, rather than

knowing

your alignment, like if he were scum.

So either:
A. You're assuming antihero is town for some reason, despite never having expressed an opinion on his slot before

or

B. You misused the term and are accusing antihero of some other fault in service of creating a narrative to paint you as scummy

So which is it?

Because it conforms to general thread sentiment?

No, because it's pretty lazy.

Explain the difference.

And when you said it was completely horrible, did you mean alignment indicative horrible?

It's pretty alignment indicative horrible. I don't see how I come off as going after easy targets when he basically puts the two people who are already in the hot spot in his scum pile and the three people who are pretty much agreed upon as town by most in his town pile while not even having anything to at least say about Persivul or you.

Whoa whoa whoa. You wanna talk about creating a narrative that's unsupported by facts, here's the textbook example. I mentioned these reads way back in 353, when neither you nor YGS had any votes. These reads became widespread in the thread

after

I expressed that I held them, as a result of discussion

that referenced me holding them

. So I'm lazy and scummy for agreeing with... my own reads? This is that special, stinking sticky bullshit that gets into the treads of your boots, and you can either spend an hour scraping it out with a twig or something and never quite get it all, or use a hose and have to go barefoot while your boots dry. Like, the most annoying, terrible bullshit.

@anti and BB- how do you feel about dividing off into pairs for targeting? I think the nonrandom choice as compared to circle targeting offers an advantage in that we can create pairs for a town information advantage. I'd like to pair the three scummiest players outside the nightkill, then proceed upward in twos until the two towniest players are paired.

[sthar8]

anti vote newbie so i can hammer and be happy

we gotta figure out the targeting plan first.

[BBmolla]

@anti and BB- how do you feel about dividing off into pairs for targeting? I think the nonrandom choice as compared to circle targeting offers an advantage in that we can create pairs for a town information advantage. I'd like to pair the three scummiest players outside the nightkill, then proceed upward in twos until the two towniest players are paired.

If we lynched someone, someone won't be paired with someone.