White Flag Mafia [TM2015] (Game Over)

[Ankamius]

It's not contradictory at all because even if I wanted to push Regfan for a win as scum, going for it when ika pushed me to would be a better time to do it than right now.

You weren't actually around then anyway?

So? What's stopping me from doing it at the next opportunity?

To address standoffishness: Why would I go about being indecisive when those two specific plans were laid out before me and both would've had a decent shot at success?

I don't see how that relates to standoffishness. Given how you've played this game so far, I could definitely see not wanting to go in for a strong push on Regfan but just take your time getting there.

Actually, most of this seems irrelevant - going for Regfan before he had voted BBT would've also meant BBT would've still pretended to think it was me-ika and he would've had to react convincingly. Now BBT can switch his focus to Regfan easily.

This assumes that Regfan wouldn't have voted for BBT regardless. You think that wouldn't have happened?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

This assumes that Regfan wouldn't have voted for BBT regardless. You think that wouldn't have happened?

Not if it's BBT-Regfan. Yes otherwise. But the order does matter here. If you vote Regfan first, he has to feign some sort of response. If Regfan votes him first, he doesn't.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

This'll be my last post on a computer.

Ika, the stuff I said in 2137 is all valid, especially #1. You can see it in his response to Regfan's vote on him, you can see it in him trying to make you think he's town in 2026, you can see it in pretty much of all his posts Today before Regfan voted him and he no longer had to pretend to scum read you. If Ank leads you to thinking about teams, 2144 is right there for you; if you don't, that's probably better because getting the team right is harder than catching scum out of me and BBT. If you feel uncertain, it might be worth asking GuyInFreezer to look at BBT's posts Today and look at his mindset; I don't know much about him but I imagine he should be able to see it. You can also try to get Ank to mediate a talk with Wisdom; at the very least it'd be kind of amusing if Ank is scum.

[Ankamius]

I wouldn't mind talking with GIF myself. Mollie's the only member of my team that's sure of ika being town based on solo play and GIF would be able to clear up any remaining doubt on my end about that slot.

At the minimum, I'd like GIF's reads if he's at all caught up with the game.

[Ankamius]

This assumes that Regfan wouldn't have voted for BBT regardless. You think that wouldn't have happened?

Not if it's BBT-Regfan. Yes otherwise. But the order does matter here. If you vote Regfan first, he has to feign some sort of response. If Regfan votes him first, he doesn't.

What's stopping him from not mentioning it at all until ika votes?

[Ankamius]

Off to work.

[ika]

On what basis are you arguing that it can't be you-BBT?

I get that you would argue for Regfan and I obviously agree that Regfan is a better lynch than me but lynching BBT is a guaranteed victory and, especially with the way he's been posting Today, I don't think there is any reason to overthink BBTscum.

CEs this entire quote followed by how you act makes me think that you are scum.

you are stating "ya regs fine" but still put in BBT.

your playing double side game and are arguing that team is BBT-reg.

if you are arguing its BBT-ank that i dont see it

ank ill be around for a bit but i want BBT to be here as well

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'm not sure what you mean but I'm not saying Regfan's fine in any sense. I'm not sure whether it's BBT-Regfan or BBT-Ank which is why I definitely want BBT lynched.

I don't want Regfan to be lynched but I want even less to lose to a BBT-Regfan scum team, especially when everyone else just seems to think Regfan looks scummy, so I do feel obliged to say I agree with Ank that Regfan is a better lynch than me even though I wouldn't be happy with a Regfanlynch and would rather just focus on getting BBT lynched.

[ika]

then vote regfan and lets test some stuff

[Ankamius]

I'm here for a bit on my tablet.

[ika]

vote regfan i want to see if anyone hops it

[Ankamius]

Too late now, I'm out the door.

[ika]

gif is readin up now

[Regfan]

CES is right in that BBTs walls and walls of 'analysis/case' on CES is him just attempting to shine every single post in a negative light, his "You can find the biggest reasons by reading my posts" in Post 2134 is even worse. The lack of strong reaction towards my vote yelling for me to unvote or real shock in the fact that Ikas not scum here is a fairly large scum-tell too.

Ank attempting to swing the vote to me when there's two votes on BBT just strengthens the fact that BBT-Ank is the scum-team here, he knows that Ikas more likely to misvote on me than CES and knows that's the only way that scum can push through a mslynch on lylo here; the fact he didn't start attempting to push that until after I voted was because he wanted to have the opportunity to blitz on CES if I misvote - this is a huge huge huge huge point.

Ika, please talk to GIF, he'll explain to you that having people throw votes around in a lylo like this is a terrible idea; he'll also tell you BBTs scum.

[Equinox]

Vote Count 5.09

BlueBloodedToffee (2) - Cogito Ergo Sum, Regfan
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) - BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting (2) - Ankamius, ika

With 5 alive, it will take 3 to lynch.

The deadline is Friday, May 29, 2015, at 3:30 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-05-29 15:30:00).

[Ankamius]

Worked killed me today. I'm not doing anything that requires thought until tomorrow.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

then vote regfan and lets test some stuff

I'd rather you vote for BBT and win the game instead.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'm about to start on a 12 hour plane journey, so I won't be around for a while.

I mostly just want to say the same things I said in 2152, ika. BBT is scum, he's made that plenty obvious Today and lynching him wins us the game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Throwing votes around is useless.

One of myself/CES is confirmed scum. Read: CES is confirmed scum.

I still have no feedback from my posts, I simpl can't do anything else and I feel like I'm just sitting her waiting to be hammered.

Ank & ika, you have both expressed significant interest in voting CES, why are you not doing it?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

CES/Reg makes so much sense. Seriously, read my posts with that scum team in mind and it's so obvious.

CES still pushing for a BBT/Ank team is pretty weak given it would be easy for Ank to just vote CES and leave ika to decide.

Seriously, read my posts. You will see why CES is scum and then you can vote accordingly.

[Ankamius]

ika: What has GIF said? I'm very very close to being 100% sure of the scumteam and that's pretty much the only thing I think can change my mind at this point.

[ika]

ika: What has GIF said? I'm very very close to being 100% sure of the scumteam and that's pretty much the only thing I think can change my mind at this point.

apparently he havent actualy read but i fed him gamestate and hes content on CES

but has one question for BBT: why are you town?

[Ankamius]

What does he mean by 'content'?

What is his reasoning?

[ika]

What does he mean by 'content'?

What is his reasoning?

hes fine with the CES lynch (if you must know at day start he was fine with an insta vote on him)

[Ankamius]

Yeah, that's pretty close to the last shred of doubt about CES/Reg being the scumteam gone. Reg's last post brought Wisdom fully on board for a CES/Reg scumteam, so now we're fully synced up.

Unless there's something else you want to discuss, I'm voting for CES here and now.