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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:23 am

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Frogging Mollie wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote:many words, little content


par for the course


p-edit well i posted too late

i am trying not to be mean here but i blame her for everything 100%


posts like this are why I still think you are scum.

plz explain as to why you think we are scum.

cos you just look like desperate scum flailing like you have been doing this all game.

I think lynching you is the correct play here for reasons that have been stated.



i think you are scum because you are scumtunnelling me and being useless for what.. oh look! 35 pages.

just get lynched.


erm

that is not an actual good reason to scum read me?

I mean you have not been able to cough up 1 good reason as to why we are scum. I mean your whole premise is that I scumread you and after questioning you, you introduced an outside element to the game by bringing in list mods which I find scummy with how it played out. I have given reads, have tried to reach out so I feel pretty good about our play here. froggy is like "wtf with this meta bs" and I can't blame him.

I mean for 35 pages you refuse to talk about something that you did, and try to hide behind something that is easily resolvable and cld potentially break open the game.

like I said, your flailing looks like desperate scum.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:23 am

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ika wrote:if ms isnt gone im refusing to even post in that neigborhood even if mollie flips scum


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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:26 am

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**Keep personal insults out of the game. This is the only warning I'm going to give.**
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:27 am

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ika wrote:if ms isnt gone im refusing to even post in that neigborhood even if mollie flips scum


wow!

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i have found words:

ika, you are a dick if you do that. and i will hate you if that actually happens and you actually do that. i really will hate you.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:28 am

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btw im VT too
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:30 am

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welcome to full out ika mode.

im sorry mollie have to resort to this but im fed up
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:32 am

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this wagon on mollie is just bad. Like if MS flipped town sure I would be more tentative of the slot.
this is my thinking:

example 1. Mollie town - MS scum

- yay happy days, nice push mollie.
- would definitely make me see mollie as my top town read.

example 2. mollie town - ms town
- not so happy days, especially for mollie.
- but can only see town pushing someone this hard for near on 30 - 40 pages because there is always a chance of someone flipping the other way and I don't think scum is as likely to take that kind of a risk as town would be. Cause if ms flips town the first person to be considered is the person who pushed the wagon the hardest (at least it is for me)

example 3. mollie scum - ms town
- I cannot see scum taking that much of a risk.

Mollie being lynched day one is not optimal in my opinion. I don't see scum acting the way mollie is.


... idk if the above is very clear, I have a bit of trouble expressing myself when I am tired and it's 1:30am here.
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:38 am

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MS, the neighborhood was pre-made? As in you didn't get to choose or anything?

This game is in a weird state right now.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:39 am

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elusive wrote:MS, the neighborhood was pre-made? As in you didn't get to choose or anything?

This game is in a weird state right now.


its me - VT
pie - kuro (main antagonist of game)
MS - Ori (main character)

it was premade, its destabled during day and only open during night
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:40 am

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Hydrangea wrote:- but can only see town pushing someone this hard for near on 30 - 40 pages because there is always a chance of someone flipping the other way and I don't think scum is as likely to take that kind of a risk as town would be. Cause if ms flips town the first person to be considered is the person who pushed the wagon the hardest (at least it is for me)

example 3. mollie scum - ms town
- I cannot see scum taking that much of a risk.


scum can push someone this hard for 30-40 pages because they dont have to really scumhunt. they dont have to give reads or analyse other players. just full out tunnel attack.

the problem is that she never expected so much resistance and pieguy to fight her on it and blow up the whole thing.


imagine if pieguy was not in this game. i would have been lynched already, and mollie (if scum) would get away scot free.

so, no.

it was a very good risk-reward. i even got to l-2. and with certain dumb pple who may defend her tomorrow with "oh its mollie town - metal town!", she can even escape.


i think your post is quite wrong. mollie is scum bullshitting and misrepping her way through.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:42 am

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ika wrote:
In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6900687#p 6900687]post 932[/url], elusive wrote:MS, the neighborhood was pre-made? As in you didn't get to choose or anything?

This game is in a weird state right now.


its me - VT
pie - kuro (main antagonist of game)
MS - Ori (main character)

it was premade, its destabled during day and only open during night



confirming.

its me - Nir - VT
pie - kuro (main antagonist of game) - ?
MS - Ori (main character) - VT

our flavor was mod-confirmed in the hood.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:44 am

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i wouldnt be surprised if its

MS- scum
pie - PR
me - vt

as the hood layout
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:45 am

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elusive, vote mollie.


the trump card was me revealing the neighborhood. mollie lost 2 points upon that reveal "oh, sheeping ika during RVS IS SCUMMY" and "oh, pieguy is SCUM WITH "OBVSCUM" sonic!"

her failure to reevaluate at 40 pages confirms her as scum. you said it yourself. stagnant reads are scummy. this is the poster boy.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:46 am

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ika wrote:i wouldnt be surprised if its

MS- scum
pie - PR
me - vt

as the hood layout


i wouldnt be surprised if you defend mollie like a total bad even after i flip town
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:47 am

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Metal Sonic wrote:
ika wrote:i wouldnt be surprised if its

MS- scum
pie - PR
me - vt

as the hood layout


i wouldnt be surprised if you defend mollie like a total bad even after i flip town


i wouldnt be surprised if you fail to ever realize how bad you are as a player
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:49 am

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ika, you can't argue that flavor means nothing and then try to argue that flavor means something. And in the end Kuro sacrifices herself to help save the day so if that's the case then MS and pie are town based on flavor.

I'm having a little trouble with the VT part of the claims due to reasons. I'm also really annoyed at ika outing the flavor of pie at least and also hiding the fact that he was in the neighbor and that there was a reason for MS to be friendly towards him.

pie has been pretty convincing so far, I like being able to follow her reasoning and logic.

I don't like Mollie's game here, I'm not sure what the alignment is, but she has no other scum reads it seems other then MS and pie for defending him which seems very narrow. Then after reading the ETL game, her tunneling or yelling scum at town is a thing.
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:50 am

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its literally poops like you that cause the neighborhood problem that mollie was talking about in a TOTALLY OFF TOPIC md thread

they create paranoia and people who cant play it right will just wanton lynch their hoodmates even if they are obvtown because "oh, 3 man neighborhoods, MUST contain scum"

i have seen hoods with 2 scum. i have seen hoods which are all clear town. nothing surprises me, and i was eager to get 3 of us as obvtown trusting each other so that we can win the game fast because we are all <experienced> players

but ika you dont fucking think

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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:51 am

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Metal Sonic wrote:
Hydrangea wrote:- but can only see town pushing someone this hard for near on 30 - 40 pages because there is always a chance of someone flipping the other way and I don't think scum is as likely to take that kind of a risk as town would be. Cause if ms flips town the first person to be considered is the person who pushed the wagon the hardest (at least it is for me)

example 3. mollie scum - ms town
- I cannot see scum taking that much of a risk.


scum can push someone this hard for 30-40 pages because they dont have to really scumhunt. they dont have to give reads or analyse other players. just full out tunnel attack.

the problem is that she never expected so much resistance and pieguy to fight her on it and blow up the whole thing.


imagine if pieguy was not in this game. i would have been lynched already, and mollie (if scum) would get away scot free.

so, no.

it was a very good risk-reward. i even got to l-2. and with certain dumb pple who may defend her tomorrow with "oh its mollie town - metal town!", she can even escape.


i think your post is quite wrong. mollie is scum bullshitting and misrepping her way through.


ok you disagree, your prerogative. I am just going off my own game experience, I just have not experienced scum pushing that hard and that effects my read to the above.
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:52 am

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elusive wrote:1)ika, you can't argue that flavor means nothing and then try to argue that flavor means something. And in the end Kuro sacrifices herself to help save the day so if that's the case then MS and pie are town based on flavor.

2)I'm having a little trouble with the VT part of the claims due to reasons.

3)I'm also really annoyed at ika outing the flavor of pie at least and also hiding the fact that he was in the neighbor and that there was a reason for MS to be friendly towards him.

pie has been pretty convincing so far, I like being able to follow her reasoning and logic.

I don't like Mollie's game here, I'm not sure what the alignment is, but she has no other scum reads it seems other then MS and pie for defending him which seems very narrow. Then after reading the ETL game, her tunneling or yelling scum at town is a thing.


1) i wasnt i was jsut showing how if we did it would be more likely that our antagonaist would be scum
2) so your hinting to be vt too? nice
3) news flash i was giving full incentive that there was a damn neghborhood, i really dont care atm you skeeved at me, i wanted MS gone form our neighborood the moment he spammed it.

as for the rest, i have no words and jsut not even going to respond.

just go ahread and vote mollie
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:53 am

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ika wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote:
ika wrote:i wouldnt be surprised if its

MS- scum
pie - PR
me - vt

as the hood layout


i wouldnt be surprised if you defend mollie like a total bad even after i flip town


i wouldnt be surprised if you fail to ever realize how bad you are as a player


i wouldnt be surprised if you fail to realize that you're actually much worse than me and i can prove it.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:54 am

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Metal Sonic wrote:its literally poops like you that cause the neighborhood problem that mollie was talking about in a TOTALLY OFF TOPIC md thread

they create paranoia and people who cant play it right will just wanton lynch their hoodmates even if they are obvtown because "oh, 3 man neighborhoods, MUST contain scum"

i have seen hoods with 2 scum. i have seen hoods which are all clear town. nothing surprises me, and i was eager to get 3 of us as obvtown trusting each other so that we can win the game fast because we are all <experienced> players

but ika you dont fucking think

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cus i have to think at my job and problem solve and deal with people every fucking day. i dont come to play maifa to think about things. i come to just let out all my hate and annoyances in a manner that is mafia.

you fail to even understand me at the most basic so dont be surprised when i take your talk for a grain of salt
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:57 am

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ika wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote:its literally poops like you that cause the neighborhood problem that mollie was talking about in a TOTALLY OFF TOPIC md thread

they create paranoia and people who cant play it right will just wanton lynch their hoodmates even if they are obvtown because "oh, 3 man neighborhoods, MUST contain scum"

i have seen hoods with 2 scum. i have seen hoods which are all clear town. nothing surprises me, and i was eager to get 3 of us as obvtown trusting each other so that we can win the game fast because we are all <experienced> players

but ika you dont fucking think

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your right, i dont think in games. you want to know why?

cus i have to think at my job and problem solve and deal with people every fucking day. i dont come to play maifa to think about things. i come to just let out all my hate and annoyances in a manner that is mafia.

you fail to even understand me at the most basic so dont be surprised when i take your talk for a grain of salt


i was very surprised when you began scumreading me... then now, not any more.

i'm sorry for not understanding you. but maybe you should find it funny how mollie was pushing how "metal was buddying to ika" like its the scummiest thing on earth.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 4:58 am

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Metal Sonic wrote:
ika wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote:its literally poops like you that cause the neighborhood problem that mollie was talking about in a TOTALLY OFF TOPIC md thread

they create paranoia and people who cant play it right will just wanton lynch their hoodmates even if they are obvtown because "oh, 3 man neighborhoods, MUST contain scum"

i have seen hoods with 2 scum. i have seen hoods which are all clear town. nothing surprises me, and i was eager to get 3 of us as obvtown trusting each other so that we can win the game fast because we are all <experienced> players

but ika you dont fucking think

sigh


your right, i dont think in games. you want to know why?

cus i have to think at my job and problem solve and deal with people every fucking day. i dont come to play maifa to think about things. i come to just let out all my hate and annoyances in a manner that is mafia.

you fail to even understand me at the most basic so dont be surprised when i take your talk for a grain of salt


i was very surprised when you began scumreading me... then now, not any more.

i'm sorry for not understanding you. but maybe you should find it funny how mollie was pushing how "metal was buddying to ika" like its the scummiest thing on earth.


not really? in my 3-4 years of playing the first ting scums do to me is buddy me. howver i have become more aware of it.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 5:03 am

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thanks ika, for outing roles and helping scum narrow the nk pile. good work.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 5:04 am

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White Night Imagination wrote:
Frogging Mollie wrote:cld you plz with sugar on top answer the yes or no question?

we can go from there!

yeah, I disagree. even if what MS did was buddying, (no offense) I don't really think ika has that much influence over anybody. like, I guess we have Grib following his read on you, but that is an extremely unusual circumstance and not something I'd expect to happen the majority of the time: it's more based on his experience with you as opposed to anything else, and thus he likely would not do anything similar with MS even if he town read him. and even then he had to keep saying over and over he was more than 100% sure this was your town game to get him to follow him on it

what I'm saying is, people aren't just going to follow ika because it's ika; you'll notice elusive and Grib and anyone else I'm missing pay attention to outside arguments the same way anyone else would and reevaluate their reads accordingly when necessary

and even if there *is* some kind of strategic advantage and I'm just not seeing it - I'm about 900% sure that in this case, it isn't what he was doing. this is for reasons I likely will not elaborate on unless it's convenient for me.


bro, when you're offered as policy lynch material in some games, i think that you're a really low priority target for buddying. seriously
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